Interstellar

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Ns1

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holy fuck, interstellar CG used up 800 terabytes of data O_O I can't even imagine, 100 fucking hours for a single frame.

Some individual frames took up to 100 hours to render, the computation overtaxed by the bendy bits of distortion caused by an Einsteinian effect called gravitational lensing. In the end the movie brushed up against 800 terabytes of data. “I thought we might cross the petabyte threshold on this one,” von Tunzelmann says.

http://www.wired.com/2014/10/astrophysics-interstellar-black-hole/

I was super curious how they filmed those exterior space ship scenes. now I know

Visual effects[edit]
The visual effects company Double Negative, which developed effects for Nolan's 2010 film Inception, worked on Interstellar.[50] Visual effects supervisor Paul Franklin said the number of effects in the film was not much greater than in Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises or Inception, but that for Interstellar, they created the effects first, so digital projectors could be used to display them behind the actors, rather than having the actors perform in front of green screens.[7]

The Ranger, Endurance, and Lander spacecraft were created using miniature effects by production designer Nathan Crowley in collaboration with effects company New Deal Studios, as opposed to using computer generated imagery, as Nolan felt they offered the best way to give the ships a tangible presence in space. Created through a combination of 3D printing and hand sculpting, the scale models earned the nickname "maxatures" by the crew due to their immense size; the 1/15th scale miniature of the Endurance module spanned 25 feet, while a pyrotechnic model of a portion of the craft was built at 1/5th scale. The Ranger and Lander miniatures spanned 46 and 50 feet, respectively. The miniatures were large enough for Hoyte van Hoytema to mount IMAX cameras directly onto the spacecraft, thus mimicking the look of NASA IMAX documentaries. The models were then attached to a six-axis gimbal on a motion control system that allowed an operator to manipulate their movements, which were filmed against background plates of space using VistaVision cameras on a smaller motion control rig.[51]

man Nolan your production techniques are fucking crazy.
 
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Ns1

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lol Interstellar science haters, Christopher Nolan responds to you =P

People online have been attempting to poke holes in the science of Interstellar. Do you find that literalness a bit silly? This is a movie, after all.

To be honest, I haven’t read whatever holes people are trying to poke so I can speak to the validity of it. My films are always held to a weirdly high standard for those issues that isn’t applied to everybody else’s films—which I’m fine with. People are always accusing my films of having plot holes, and I’m very aware of the plot holes in my films and very aware of when people spot them, but they generally don’t. But what were some science issues people had with the film? That was Kip’s domain.

One thing I see being brought up is the time dilation on the planet that they land, where one hour equals seven years (or a factor of 60,000), and to get that time dilation you’d have to be literally skimming the surface of the black hole.

Like “a basketball on the rim,” which is a phrase we use! That’s completely accurate, so there’s no hole there at all. Those issues are all buttoned-up, and Kip has a book on the science of the film about what’s real, and what’s speculation—because much of it is, of course, speculation. There have been a bunch of knee-jerk tweets by people who’ve only seen the film once, but to really take on the science of the film, you’re going to need to sit down with the film for a bit and probably also read Kip’s book. I know where we cheated in the way you have to cheat in movies, and I’ve made Kip aware of those things.
 
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The science was not my problem with this film. I enjoyed the space stuff; giant set pieces and bombast is what Nolan does so well these days, my issues stem from all of the relationship stuff which is probably the clunkiest I've seen from Nolan.

I've found this to be the case with everything he did after The Prestige, I mean I love Inception, but the relationship stuff was again the weakest part of that film, fortunately it was presented in a way that was far less cheesy and felt far more natural unlike in Interstellar which made it feel like he was just forcing himself to hit beats to get the viewers invested in the characters.

KT
 

Kneedragger

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Heh, saw that on Reddit and I have to agree with the consensus there: that graphic is way more complicated than the movie.

holy shit.


but this is exactly why I love Nolan movies, they inspire conversation like this.

My question - how do they remember so much detail? Either a pirated rip or they took a fucking notebook to the theater!?

After clicking on that image I got so confused with the movie after I have seen it haha.
 

smackababy

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Is this movie worth seeing in a normal theater? I am far too unmotivated to go to any Imax or pay extra to see a movie in 3D. I'd hate for this to be another Gravity, which relied on "Imax experience" to be worth the price of a ticket and just a bad movie in any other format.
 

Ns1

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I would at least see it on the biggest screen you can find.
 

Grooveriding

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Is this movie worth seeing in a normal theater? I am far too unmotivated to go to any Imax or pay extra to see a movie in 3D. I'd hate for this to be another Gravity, which relied on "Imax experience" to be worth the price of a ticket and just a bad movie in any other format.

It's worth seeing anywhere. It's not like Gravity where the visuals carried the film. It's an excellent film with excellent visuals. It's better in IMAX for sure, but you'll still enjoy it in a standard theater because the story and acting can stand on their own.
 

smackababy

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It's worth seeing anywhere. It's not like Gravity where the visuals carried the film. It's an excellent film with excellent visuals. It's better in IMAX for sure, but you'll still enjoy it in a standard theater because the story and acting can stand on their own.

That is all I needed to hear. Thanks!
 

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If anyone has any questions about the relativity/black hole/wormhole stuff I'd be happy to answer IF I have the time. IAAA (I am an astrophysicist).
 

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holy shit.


but this is exactly why I love Nolan movies, they inspire conversation like this.

My question - how do they remember so much detail? Either a pirated rip or they took a fucking notebook to the theater!?

they went to the theater and created their own pirated copy to review, annotate, and map out the events precisely to send back to other viewers to analyze, update, and use for future viewing.

it's like whoever created it is the 5th dimension beings; we as opening weekend viewers are cooper, and those now seeing the movie after this is available is murph.

as for my own feelings:
-absolutely eye-rolled my eyeballs right out of its sockets during hathaway's love speech. gah, took me right out of it.

-but other than that, it was amazing. TARS / CASE / and the waves stole the show.
 

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watched it on imax thur night, was blown away, the music was spot on
and i felt drained afterwards
 

Rudee

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The movie was 3 hours long because Matthew McConaughey talks SOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUUUCKING SLOOOOOOOOOOW.
 

CZroe

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Speaking of plot holes, I haven't seen this mentioned yet even though it stuck out as extremely obvious to me while watching the movie:
I don't understand how the jumper can take the crew to the surface and back to the Endurance with on-board fuel even though they had to use a multi-stage rocket to get into Earth orbit. IIRC, one planet was 1.3G and the other was 0.8 G, so it's like touching down and leaving Earth 2.1 times with the fuel they had on-board.
 

smackababy

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Speaking of plot holes, I haven't seen this mentioned yet even though it stuck out as extremely obvious to me while watching the movie:
I don't understand how the jumper can take the crew to the surface and back to the Endurance with on-board fuel even though they had to use a multi-stage rocket to get into Earth orbit. IIRC, one planet was 1.3G and the other was 0.8 G, so it's like touching down and leaving Earth 2.1 times with the fuel they had on-board.

I haven't seen the movie, but I'd assume there is some energy lost due to the atmosphere of Earth giving resistance. I mean, it likely isn't a ton, but maybe that is the explanation?
 

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Speaking of plot holes, I haven't seen this mentioned yet even though it stuck out as extremely obvious to me while watching the movie:
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I haven't seen the movie but Di-lithium Crystals.
 

JTsyo

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I liked the movie as far as visuals but the science of it was borderline Doctor Who nonsense.

The whole relativistic effect situation on the large planet really bothered me:

1. Exactly how far from the planet did they leave their base ship where it had 0 relativistic effect from the black hole? It's not like you land on the planet and boom, time starts moving at 1/60,000 its normal rate.

2. Why would they even land on this planet? If they already know that time on that planet moves so much slower, they should have already known that the original explorer has only been there for 2 hours (which they inexplicably only seem to realize after they find the wreckage).


Also, the whole "love transcends the time and space" or whatever the f that was... ugh...

Just came back from seeing it. There were so many of these moments for me.
-Why even consider a system with a blackhole in it. You have no idea what might happen.
-Even if you can't communicate through the wormhole, the original explorers should be carrying regular communication systems to talk to ships in the system and each other. When contact was made, the system could have given a data dump to the ship so they knew exactly what they were dealing with.
-They are trying to find a planet to live on and they bring no space based instrumentation to map the planets? Look at what we get from the Mars orbiter.
-Even if you had a good propulsion system, the size of ships to carry any percent of the human population would be immense. I realize in this setting a large percent of humanity has already died off.
-Plan B was a joke. Like 5 people would be able to raise a generation of kids by themselves on a new world.

Other than those the movie wasn't bad. The visuals were good and the human aspect of the story was good. The whole gravity magic, I can overlook for the sake of the plot.
 

CZroe

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I haven't seen the movie, but I'd assume there is some energy lost due to the atmosphere of Earth giving resistance. I mean, it likely isn't a ton, but maybe that is the explanation?

Nope. Not sure why you are reading spoilers if you haven't seen it, but they wouldn't be
exploring a planet without a potentially breathable atmosphere. It would be of similar density if the planet is of similar mass.
 

CZroe

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Just came back from seeing it. There were so many of these moments for me.
-Why even consider a system with a blackhole in it. You have no idea what might happen.
-Even if you can't communicate through the wormhole, the original explorers should be carrying regular communication systems to talk to ships in the system and each other. When contact was made, the system could have given a data dump to the ship so they knew exactly what they were dealing with.
-They are trying to find a planet to live on and they bring no space based instrumentation to map the planets? Look at what we get from the Mars orbiter.
-Even if you had a good propulsion system, the size of ships to carry any percent of the human population would be immense. I realize in this setting a large percent of humanity has already died off.
-Plan B was a joke. Like 5 people would be able to raise a generation of kids by themselves on a new world.

Other than those the movie wasn't bad. The visuals were good and the human aspect of the story was good. The whole gravity magic, I can overlook for the sake of the plot.
I guess we are done using spoiler tags.

The blackhole system is the only system the wormhole gave them access to. They didn't get a "choice." It was chosen for them. This is why they assumed that at least one of the planets had to be habitable.

They did get a lot more data when they arrived. They discussed that Mann's ultimately forged data was more promising than Edmund's good-enough data. They also noted that Edmunds had stopped transmitting, though they didn't know why (killed in a landslide). Mann was in stasis and as far as they knew the others would be too.

I imagine that Cooper Station is a midway point for refugees as they are evacuated. With gravity manipulation, going to or from should be simpler and maybe even negligible.

Not sure what's wrong with Plan B. They have enough zygotes to ensure genectic diversity, but they only need to raise one or two at a time.
 
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smackababy

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Nope. Not sure why you are reading spoilers if you haven't seen it, but they wouldn't be
exploring a planet without a potentially breathable atmosphere. It would be of similar density if the planet is of similar mass.

I read spoilers because knowing what is going to happen doesn't ruin a movie for me. I know what is going to happen in 99% of the movies: the good guy wins. That doesn't make the journey to that any less valuable.

This is a movie about them leaving Earth, which is in danger of becoming uninhabitable for whatever reason, and possibly finding a habitable planet. There are two possible outcomes: they find said planet or they don't. And, since this is a movie made in Hollywood, I'm going to assume they do find the planet. Did I just ruin the movie for everyone? I certainly hope you're not so dense you couldn't see that coming.

And, since I do read the spoilers, I don't bitch about them, especially when they are covered up. I was only saying that they might have been leaving a planet with a less dense atmosphere, thus giving less resistance and requiring less fuel. And, since this is a silly space movie based nowhere in reality (one pilot is their only hope! and he happens to drive a Chrysler and Alfred is demanding he go on a mission with faster than light travel, because if it wasn't, they'd never find a planet and return before Earth was destroyed unless they left a long time ago), I am offering a silly explanation they might attempt to suspend disbelief with.

Do we really need to go over why a man in super expensive toys in a city lacking in young, rich guys isn't immediately discovered to be Bruce fucking Wayne? Or, how nobody else could figured it out, but one orphan knew due to some special look? It's a movie.
 
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