Interstellar

[CZroe]

http://youtu.be/0fWuP12dpdc

While Cooper doesn't become a traditional god, some evolved being gives him to ability to manipulate time and gravity in order to pass information obtained in a black hole back to his daughter. That is stupid. Had they removed that entire part and simply explain a message was able to get through with the data and Cooper was found flying some 40 years later, I'd be perfectly okay with that.

Uhh, except nothing can escape a black hole... not light, not radio, not anything *except* gravity. The only message out can be gravitational influence. That was the reason it was impossible to probe in the first place.

 

[GlacierFreeze]

While Cooper doesn't become a traditional god, some evolved being gives him to ability to manipulate time and gravity in order to pass information obtained in a black hole back to his daughter. That is stupid. Had they removed that entire part and simply explain a message was able to get through with the data and Cooper was found flying some 40 years later, I'd be perfectly okay with that.

I didn't mind it. I thought it was pretty interesting. Yes, off the wall compared to about everything else in the movie, but still liked it.

Even though I don't understand any of the science, it made sense to me. lol

Basically they wanted some way of showing us that time/space/gravity/blah/blah are all connected. Cooper going into the black hole..... some how acted as a rift between time and space and collapsed on itself (or something!) and threw him into the 5th dimension. Was shown in 3D the way it was as the movie said so our minds could understand it (5th dimension). Then something happened and it kicked him out near where the wormhole entrance was.

 

[Brainonska511]

http://youtu.be/0fWuP12dpdc



Uhh, except nothing can escape a black hole... not light, not radio, not anything *except* gravity. The only message out can be gravitational influence. That was the reason it was impossible to probe in the first place.

And Hawking radiation...

 

[smackababy]

http://youtu.be/0fWuP12dpdc



Uhh, except nothing can escape a black hole... not light, not radio, not anything *except* gravity. The only message out can be gravitational influence. That was the reason it was impossible to probe in the first place.

Nothing except gravity, and a robot, and a Cooper... Again, I am okay with scienetific inaccuracies so long as it doesn't involve some idiotic "god" premise. Some evolved beings created a tesseract of time space so Cooper could send messages, using gravity, back to his daughter throughout her entire life and she could solve the equation of what lies within a black hole and move the people of Earth? So, that is okay, because gravity can leave a black hole? Is that what you're saying?

 

[StarTech15]

While Cooper doesn't become a traditional god, some evolved being gives him to ability to manipulate time and gravity in order to pass information obtained in a black hole back to his daughter. That is stupid. Had they removed that entire part and simply explain a message was able to get through with the data and Cooper was found flying some 40 years later, I'd be perfectly okay with that.

The film makers chose to create a visual device that articulated a fifth dimension. It's kind of heavy handed and silly but they had to do it. Just telling us that a message got from Cooper to Murph wouldn't cut it.

That scene kind of bothered me, too, but it was still great cinema. You could feel Cooper's sense of being utterly lost in space and time.

 

[KillerBee]

Spoiler

The part where Matt Damon leaves Cooper behind
what made the ground station suddenly blow up with the professor inside?

 

[Ichinisan]

Spoiler

The part where Matt Damon leaves Cooper behind
what made the ground station suddenly blow up with the professor inside?

Spoiler

I think it was something to do with him activating Damon's robot. It was probably rigged. He didn't really deactivate it to scavenge power for himself. He did it so they wouldn't learn of his deception.

 

[KillerBee]

Spoiler

Yea it does explain when Matt Damon told the other robot not to try and fix it. Just a weird plan to have come up with in the first place - for someone hoping to get rescued.

I would have gone with just saying - haha sorry guys, I was a lil' desperate to get rescued, hope you don't mind I sort of faked the data -
rather than blowing everything up

 

[CZroe]

Nothing except gravity, and a robot, and a Cooper... Again, I am okay with scienetific inaccuracies so long as it doesn't involve some idiotic "god" premise. Some evolved beings created a tesseract of time space so Cooper could send messages, using gravity, back to his daughter throughout her entire life and she could solve the equation of what lies within a black hole and move the people of Earth? So, that is okay, because gravity can leave a black hole? Is that what you're saying?

They did not "get out" of the black hole. They were taken through the fifth dimension to a different time and place without traveling out/leaving it. This was done by future humans who exist in fifth dimensional space who controlled gravity (black holes) and time. This was only possible with the information he originally delivered to the human race. It's a standard time paradox, but one which your desired scenario couldn't address. They aren't gods.

 

[CZroe]

Spoiler

Yea it does explain when Matt Damon told the other robot not to try and fix it. Just a weird plan to have come up with in the first place - for someone hoping to get rescued.

I would have gone with just saying - haha sorry guys, I was a lil' desperate to get rescued, hope you don't mind I sort of faked the data -
rather than blowing everything up

He knew his rescuers would discover his deception but he intended to go to one of the other viable planets in their place to meet with other unsuspecting humans.

 

[KillerBee]

He knew his rescuers would discover his deception but he intended to go to one of the other viable planets in their place to meet with other unsuspecting humans.

hmm- how would he have known he wouldn't to be in the area when they discovered the bad data and suddenly set off the bomb?

 

[Ichinisan]

hmm- how would he have known he wouldn't to be in the area when they discovered the bad data and suddenly set off the bomb?

Because someone set us up the bomb.

 

[Printer Bandit]

when cooper and crew went flying through the black hole / worm hole, how come their spaceship and bodies didn't get torn up? i thought the gravity was supposed to be very high?

 

[HN]

when cooper and crew went flying through the black hole / worm hole, how come their spaceship and bodies didn't get torn up? i thought the gravity was supposed to be very high?

the worm hole was not a black hole in this movie. the black hole was gargantua.

now, if you ask that same question about gargantua at the end, then i'll say because movie \:\/

 

[HN]

hmm- how would he have known he wouldn't to be in the area when they discovered the bad data and suddenly set off the bomb?

he took Coop out to the fake area.

 

[KillerBee]

the worm hole was not a black hole in this movie. the black hole was gargantua.

now, if you ask that same question about gargantua at the end, then i'll say because movie \:\/

When heading back he pulled the ejection seat lever just in time
which somehow sent him into the 5th dimension :whiste:

 

[Printer Bandit]

sometimes i wish real life was like the movies. life would be so much funner.

 

[ctbaars]

Just saw it. Outstanding movie.

 

[Harrod]

I watched it this afternoon, I liked it but the sound was crackling during some of the higher volume scenes, I figured it was part of the movie until I was walking out and was handed a free pass to another movie.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Saw it this morning. Fantastic movie... I'm still geeking out on it.

 

[SP33Demon]

Loved the movie, total fiction (going into a black hole and surviving? lmao) but entertaining. Especially in 70mm.

 

[Jadow]

at the end, how did really old Murph know about Amelia's situation on Edmund?

 

[CZroe]

at the end, how did really old Murph know about Amelia's situation on Edmund?

They solved the gravity thing. They were probably sending stuff to and from the Gargantua system regularly.

 

[destrekor]

They solved the gravity thing. They were probably sending stuff to and from the Gargantua system regularly.

There's also the simple fact that they were still able to communicate (with delays). That's how Earth still got wind of what planets were potentially worth further investigation. I suspect they hadn't yet sent anything to her.

 

[Merad]

I saw this yesterday in IMAX. It's good, but overall I was disappointed. I would say 7/10 or so. Either the sound mixing or my theater was horrible. Music totally covered up the dialogue in several places and many scenes had music that felt like it should be subtle, but was obnoxiously loud. It seriously detracted from the experience.

**HERE BE SPOILERS**

Roughly the first third of the movie was the weakest part IMO. No explanation for why the earth got into this state? Guy shows up a NASA after spending what, 10-15 years as a farmer, and he's made pilot of a mission to decide the survival of humanity because "they" sent him? And the mission launches with apparently no training? Meh. Also, it's a nitpick but I was disappointed that what little was shown of the launch appeared to be recycled footage from Apollo.

The effects of the wormhole and travel through it was fantastic. Things started to pick up after that, but there are some immense plot holes (we won't even go into some of the blatant scientific inaccuracies). Time dilation is such a huge factor in the plot, but no one seems to even think about the consequences of it - like that Miller couldn't have had more than about 2 hours on her planet by the time they land. I felt the subplots with Matt Damon and Murph's brother were both a bit weak. The former seemed a bit cliche (shades of TDK "bringing down the best of us"), and the latter didn't really seem to add anything to the plot.

The ending... well, I don't get how you can put so much effort into accurately rendering a black hole, but don't even bother mentioning something as major as spaghettification when you send your main character into that black hole. There was too much dues ex machina in the ending for my tastes, but it wasn't unbearable.