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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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You and Indus do not see eye-to-eye on genocide, remember, he's pro-genocide.

The more and more you parrot your stupid shit.. the more I think you'd love to be one of those who defended the nazi's at nuremberg!

I want justice for 1400 years of slaughter. Nothing more.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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The more and more you parrot your stupid shit.. the more I think you'd love to be one of those who defended the nazi's at nuremberg!

I want justice for 1400 years of slaughter. Nothing more.
How am I "parroting my stupid shit" when you have loudly, proudly, and repeatedly expressed your support for genocide?
And yeah, sure, it makes total sense that me calling you out on your genocidal beliefs means I'd defend Nazis somehow? Can you explain how that makes sense?
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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How am I "parroting my stupid shit" when you have loudly, proudly, and repeatedly expressed your support for genocide?
And yeah, sure, it makes total sense that me calling you out on your genocidal beliefs means I'd defend Nazis somehow? Can you explain how that makes sense?

If they're so innocent, why don't you present factual verified evidence that Muslims are totally innocent of religious pogroms committed against other religions all the way from Greece to Philippines.

But you sure like to call me a genocidal maniac instead of laying the blame squarely where it lies.. and that is exactly the problem.

Eliminating the genociders via a genocide is not a crime. It's justice for crimes against humanity!

Unless ofcourse you're saying their crimes never happened.. and are a figment of people's imagination and propaganda.. and that's where you turn into someone who would defend the indefensible.

P.S. This is just the wiki.. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Genocides,_Cultural_Genocides_and_Ethnic_Cleansings_under_Islam

Actual factual evidence would fill up yottabytes of data.
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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There's so few religions that are not guilty of religious pogroms that the whole idea trying to find a pure one is almost ludicrous futile, but do go on Indus and show us the math...
 
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Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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The more and more you parrot your stupid shit.. the more I think you'd love to be one of those who defended the nazi's at nuremberg!

I want justice for 1400 years of slaughter. Nothing more.
I am sorry to have to tell you this but what you say you want is absurdly stupid. Let me know when you can resurrect the dead and I will help you put them on trial. You want justice for 1400 year old crimes,……… hilarious. What shall we do about the Neanderthal who raped your Grandma. I mean why not go back fifty thousand years. As long as you are paying why not go for the whole hog.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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If they're so innocent, why don't you present factual verified evidence that Muslims are totally innocent of religious pogroms committed against other religions all the way from Greece to Philippines.

But you sure like to call me a genocidal maniac instead of laying the blame squarely where it lies.. and that is exactly the problem.

Eliminating the genociders via a genocide is not a crime. It's justice for crimes against humanity!

Unless ofcourse you're saying their crimes never happened.. and are a figment of people's imagination and propaganda.. and that's where you turn into someone who would defend the indefensible.

P.S. This is just the wiki.. https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Genocides,_Cultural_Genocides_and_Ethnic_Cleansings_under_Islam

Actual factual evidence would fill up yottabytes of data.
"The Final Solution to the Muslim Question", from the guy who is totally not a genocidal maniac and totally hates Nazis (even though he wants to behave exactly like them, and wipe out all members of a given religion).
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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There's so few religions that are not guilty of religious pogroms that the whole idea trying to find a pure one is almost ludicrous futile, but do go on Indus and show us the math...

Kill one.. you're a murderer.
Kill a million.. you're a conquering hero.

And as always we turn a blind eye towards them but not towards the individuals wanting justice. And if we somehow get to a trial, too often the conquering heroes are able to purchase goodwill and justice with stolen money and lands from the victims.

We pretend we're more civilized in the west but that's just western hypocrisy at it's finest.. Sadly, That's the math.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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They deserve justice.. I fully support it.

But what one often forgets is.. lots of victims never get any justice, and of course they and their descendants are still very raw about it.

If you ever get the chance to visit such a place.. just talk to them about what they feel.. you'll get quite an education directly from the source.

Even if you don't agree with what justice would entail, I would hope in the very least I hope you still stop sanitizing and defending the perpetrators of their crimes.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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They deserve justice.. I fully support it.

But what one often forgets is.. lots of victims never get any justice, and of course they and their descendants are still very raw about it.

If you ever get the chance to visit such a place.. just talk to them about what they feel.. you'll get quite an education directly from the source.

Even if you don't agree with what justice would entail, I would hope in the very least I hope you still stop sanitizing and defending the perpetrators of their crimes.
A bigot is a person who believes in something good like justice but has made an unconscious assumption that he or she knows what justice is when in fact what appears to be justice to them is really unconscious bigotry. The reason we say that you can tell a bigot but you can't tell him much is that he can't separate the obvious belief the person has that, in our example here, justice is good and not facing justice is bad, The bigot is right about that and that is all they can see because they are blind to how they misapply it.

This means that no matter how many people tell you you are a bigot, you won't see it because all you think yo want is justice. The only cure I know for this is humility. But because we hate ourselves we see humility as an admission of some defect of character. This is why defensive people can't learn anything. They can't introspect objectively. Good luck.
 
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