Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Maybe we better sit down and think this through
Before it really bites us in the ass, and we get into deeper problems with the citizens who we woke up.
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Maybe we better sit down and think this through
Before it really bites us in the ass, and we get into deeper problems with the citizens who we woke up.
I just find it amazing how the Self-righteous Right Wing Legislators? put the safety of the people above all else. That is, until those with the money come a complaining that it is hurting business.
Originally posted by: eleison
check out the party afflications.. very few conservatives... Actually, as some people have noted being the drinkers that the BUSH's are, if Texas still had W as governor, we wouldn't be seeing this type of shinnangians
The issue with Texas now a days (and to a certain extent Nevada) is that out-of-state people are moving in (esp. from california) and trying to make it liberal....
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
"They are upholding the law," Walt said. "You need to keep in mind that Texas has the highest number of alcohol traffic deaths among 15- to 20-year-olds in the country. Certainly, no one expects TABC to turn a blind eye" to dangerous drinking.
I can pretty much garantee you that the '15 - to 20-year-olds' problem is NOT that they're going into bars and ordering drinks.
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Maybe we better sit down and think this through
Before it really bites us in the ass, and we get into deeper problems with the citizens who we woke up.
I just find it amazing how the Self-righteous Right Wing Legislators? put the safety of the people above all else. That is, until those with the money come a complaining that it is hurting business.
Actually, most of the liberal left wing politicians are the ones defending this:
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/8259254/detail.html
check out the party afflications.. very few conservatives... Actually, as some people have noted being the drinkers that the BUSH's are, if Texas still had W as governor, we wouldn't be seeing this type of shinnangians
(http://alabama-democrat.blogspot.com/2006/03/texas-arresting-people-for-being-drunk.html)
The issue with Texas now a days (and to a certain extent Nevada) is that out-of-state people are moving in (esp. from california) and trying to make it liberal....
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm hungry, I think I'll go hunting at the zoo.
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm hungry, I think I'll go hunting at the zoo.
Here's your Chance
Item # 5
Government's Bizarre Plan to End Hunger in America. In September of this year, the government will order all zoos in the U.S. to release their animals. The needy will be given hunting rifles and allowed to go after their own food. They will be allowed to sell any uneaten food to markets and restaurants.
Originally posted by: Trianon
Next step: arrest anyone who comes to the bar, who knows maybe they came with intent to drink way too much
Originally posted by: marvdmartian
This is why I drink at home. I have yet to see a DUI checkpoint, or now, a public intox patrol, between my living room & bedroom!! :roll:
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Your Tax Dollars At Work
Many North Texans are complaining about a controversial program during in which state officials arrest people inside bars in order to crack down on public intoxication.
The program began years ago, but during the most recent legislative session, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission asked for and received more money to ramp up the operation.
As a result, the TABC hired 100 agents to travel from bar to bar looking for drunk people who could pose a danger in an agent's opinion.
One bar owner, who asked NBC 5 not to use his name for fear of retaliation by the TABC, said those arrested were not causing a disturbance.
"I can understand if we had somebody laying in a booth and they were basically passed out and drunk, I could understand for them to go in with the flashlights and take them out of the booth and arrest them, but these people were standing and doing fine," he said.
TABC officials said they have no plans to change the program.
100 X $ 50,000* (?) = 5 million dollars per year in pay to new encorcement officers to harass people in hotel bars ?
(* estimated average salary)
TABC
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
State of Texas Governors Office orders TABC to 'Back-Off' of enforcement of 'Drunk-in-Public' laws, until further review.
Bawk, cluck, cluck, Bawk . . . Bawk . . .
The chickens coming home to roost ?
. . . and Fighting Back
<AustinPowers>
Dallas Night Club is suing the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission, accusing the state agency of unfairly targeting the bar and using an inconsistent standard to decide when patrons are legally drunk.
"The TABC has embarked on a deliberate and knowing course of conduct to drive Dallas out of business," says the lawsuit,
which attorney Jesse R. Castillo said was mailed to U.S. District Court in Austin on Monday.
"Dallas has lost the bulk of its clientele and millions of dollars in revenue."
Nope..liquor stores are going to be the next target. Obviously you wouldn't be shopping there unless you were intending on drinking whatever you purchase, so ergo, there's the potential for you to end up doing something criminal (best to be proactive and nip that right in the bud before it has a chance to happen)
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I find it hysterical to see Republicans fighting Republicans and Oil Barons too since this is of course Dallas Texas. :laugh:
Things like this show maybe there is a glimmer of hope for the Country yet.
Originally posted by: fitzov
Nope..liquor stores are going to be the next target. Obviously you wouldn't be shopping there unless you were intending on drinking whatever you purchase, so ergo, there's the potential for you to end up doing something criminal (best to be proactive and nip that right in the bud before it has a chance to happen)
No, drinking at home is clearly "private". Nice try at hysteria though.
Thanks for the opinion of someone who lives there. Seems to be way overblown in the media...Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Jeez, lot of Texas haters in this thread
1. Irving is a small suburb of Dallas best known for being home to Texas stadium and the the Cowboys. Their city politics have always been bordering on insane, and most of the locals around here consider Irving nothing more than a wart on our collective asses. Hell JJ and the cowboys have even given up on the city and will be moving to Arlington with the new stadium.
2. Irving is a tiny percentage (population wize) of the DFW metroplex, and not even remotely significant when speaking of the 20mil Texans. To think the shenanigans that go on in Irving apply to the whole state is just being terribly misinformed.
3. This is nothing more than a fued between the police and a handful of bar owners who (by police standards) have done a poor job of monitoring the intoxication levels of their patrons, and continued serving patrons who are obviously very drunk.