Question Is 4070 (non ti) a good option for 1440p gaming?

[you2]

Well it is time i upgrade my 1070; I was thinking for the gigabyte 4070 - maybe the aero as it looks like an upgraded the windforce and trying to decide if it is a good option. Some background - i have a nr200p case (itx); i only game up to 1440p and have no intention of ever going to 4k (i use 27 inch monitor) - my processor is an i5 or i7 approx 1 year old (my old mb died). I currently run windows 10 but i suppose at some point i will be forced to upgrade to win 11. My psu is corsair platinum 750 watt. Been a bit undecided if something like 6850 or 6950 or 3080 is sufficient upgrade given all my constraints.

 

[Leeea]

is 12gb of vram a good idea for 1400p gaming in 2023?


it will be interesting what the ray tracing numbers look like when they come out, but these charts might be interesting, especially the minimum fps numbers:

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the lower v-ram does seem to hold it back vs the previous generation cards that have more.


The 4 more gigs of ram on the 4080 puts it into another ballpark at 1440p, and if you can afford it, I would suggest serious considering it. VRAM is all that really matters here.

Or go team red and pick up the VRAM that way. Last gen rx6800xt are as low as $530 new, and while it won't say nvidia on the side, it will have the VRAM. Raytracing won't be so good though.

or pick up current gen amd 7900 card that will do the raytracing, but is still going to be a good deal cheaper then a 4080 or 4090. It still will never say nvidia on the side. And you will miss out on the "joys" of the NV 12VHPWR connector.

I cannot wait for Intel to show up and disturb this space, but it looks like Intel is not quite here yet.

 

[SolidQ]

Is 4070 (non ti) a good option for 1440p gaming?​

Question, for how long you want take it 2, 5, 7 years?

 

[you2]

Question, for how long you want take it 2, 5, 7 years?

Well I doubt i will ever go above 1440p; so maybe 5 years would be decent. My 1070 is approx 6 years old.

 

[you2]

is 12gb of vram a good idea for 1400p gaming in 2023?


it will be interesting what the ray tracing numbers look like when they come out, but these charts might be interesting, especially the minimum fps numbers:

Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis

Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart finally brings the epic franchise to the PC Platform. You get amazing visuals, with support for ray tracing, Direct Storage and all important upscaler technologies. In our performance review, we're taking a closer look at image quality, VRAM usage, and performance...

www.techpowerup.com

the lower v-ram does seem to hold it back vs the previews generation cards that have more.

Well 1440p is 2560x1440 and the 1070 gets 95 fps which is more than the 60 i use.... even with rt and i can tolerate a few dips into the 40.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Great option IMO. It's on my Amazon Wishlist. If I bought today, its most likely what I would get, but I'm still hesitating about price and looking/hoping for a deal.

 

[SolidQ]

so maybe 5 years would be decent.

for 5 years you should find with more VRAM card, In september RX 7800 will be same as 4070, but with 16GB, there also possible try find 7900XT for 700$, card faster than even 4070ti or used 3090

is 2560x1440 and the 1070 gets 95 fps which is more than the 60

medium + FSR?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

It's alright.

In many ways it doesn't really offer anything new in terms of performance (raster) that we have had over the last two years and have been available for a good price in the form of firesales on 6950's and 6800xts.

DLSS 2/3 and better RT performance are certainly nice.

But as the supply of N21 parts dries up and with no N32 in sight, the 4070 is really going to be the only game in town for $600.

 

[Heartbreaker]

But as the supply of N21 parts dries up and with no N32 in sight, the 4070 is really going to be the only game in town for $600.

Really the only thing from AMD I could be interested in is N32...

 

[SolidQ]

Really the only thing from AMD I could be interested in is N32...

gamescon soon

 

[you2]

for 5 years you should find with more VRAM card, In september RX 7800 will be same as 4070, but with 16GB, there also possible try find 7900XT for 700$, card faster than even 4070ti or used 3090


medium + FSR?

Don't understand and I made a typo on perf - it is the 4070 plain which gets plenty of speend not 1070.
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The issue i run into with 7900xt or even the 4070ti is i'm pushing what the corsair 750 psu can handle as well what will fit in the case. There are higher wattage in sfx (but not by a lot) but they are far less reliable units so I think something like the 7900xt is probably a no go. I could consider the 6950 - it looks like the 4070ti will fit and will not exceed 750 watt; it is of course still only 12 gb of ram. The 4090 has 24 gb of ram but is hopelessly more than i would pay (over $1500 vs $600 for 4070). The 4080 has 16gb of vram @ twice the cost ~1200 but require more power than the sfx750 can handle and is too long for the case. Not set on the 4070 by any means and if something will come out next year i can wait another year - just hitting some boundaries on what the case and psu can handle.

 

[Majcric]

The 4070 will a nice upgrade. If things were like they used to be I'd say wait, but we don't even know when Nvidia will release the 5XXX series. And then there is the price.

 

[Ajay]

4070 is a big upgrade from a 1070 (that’s what I did, except I went Ti). I run the same resolution and am currently stuck at 60Hz. I don’t like the 12GB of RAM, wanted 16+. Guess I’ll be using dlss 2 if I get a faster/larger monitor in the future. I nabbed mine on sale (everyone got in the game for 'prime day'). Good luck!

 

[you2]

Just need to find a good 4070 or 6950 on sale; yea a 16 gb graphic card would be nice but i don't see any that don't consume an arm and a leg in both power and $$$.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Just need to find a good 4070 or 6950 on sale; yea a 16 gb graphic card would be nice but i don't see any that don't consume an arm and a leg in both power and $$$.

For performance per watt and upscaling you really can't beat Nvidia right now. Having 2 variants of the NR200 series myself, an XFX RX 6800 QICK barely fits. I'd go with the 4070. Some have been less than MSRP lately here in the U.S. The TIE is just too much for 12GB of ram. I'd have to kick my own ass if I paid $800 for that.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Well I doubt i will ever go above 1440p; so maybe 5 years would be decent. My 1070 is approx 6 years old.

Can't really expect this gen of cards to age like Pascal did given the stingy VRAM and Nvidia putting the generational improvements mostly into their pocketbook instead of into performance. 70 series used to give you ballpark previous gen flagship performance and now it's more like ballpark previous gen 80 series performance. 4070 might age more like 1060 did than 1070 considering 1060 was the card with ballpark previous gen 80 series performance.

 

[you2]

Can't really expect this gen of cards to age like Pascal did given the stingy VRAM and Nvidia putting the generational improvements mostly into their pocketbook instead of into performance. 70 series used to give you ballpark previous gen flagship performance and now it's more like ballpark previous gen 80 series performance. 4070 might age more like 1060 did than 1070 considering 1060 was the card with ballpark previous gen 80 series performance.

Yea that is one of the pia about public companies; it isn't about making money - it is about making more money than the previous year (exec's bonus); kind of suck as they change from good product to milking consumers.