Is Intel Burring itself?

[narzy]

With all of the, what I would call "bad" marketing decisions out of Intel lately, would you say that they are burring themselves? I mean with the contract with RAM bus (shudder) and the release of the under achieving P4 it would seem Intel is "screwing" themselves. Now don't get me wrong I have a P3 850 in my rig and am a supporter of Intel, but it does concern me when they make such IMHO stupid decisions. It seems the P4 is based on RDRAM and can't perform worth a hoot compared to an AMD chip clocked 300 MHz slower.

Your opinion?

 

[natto fire]

I remember reading something about the pentium4 having the ability to beat the Athlon but requiring software to take advantage of its different instruction sets or something. Kind of like MMX, and 3DNOW!. But maybe I am wrong or just crazy or tired.

 

[narzy]

Isn't that taking a VERY large gamble?

 

[natto fire]

yes unless Intel can somehow push the software on developers?

LIKE MMX hahahaahahah

 

[Angrymarshmello]

This isn't a Highly Technical thread...more like OT

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

This isn't a Highly Technical thread...more like OT --RagingBitch

Who said this was the Highly Technical Forum?



...but requiring software to take advantage of its different instruction sets or something.-- Captain_Howdy


Yes, the P4 can achieve significant gains if the software is written to utilize SSE2 optimizations. Coincidentally, any software compiled with Intel's SSE2 compiler seems to run worse on any non-SSE2 compliant CPU than it would were it not optimized for SSE2.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

ST4R - it originated in the HT forum. It was just moved by the mod:



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[Siddhartha]

I thought Intel was trying the resolve the issue of RAM being or becoming the bottleneck. Unfortunately, Rambus was\is quite a bit more expensive than either DDR or Sdram.

 

[Siddhartha]

Hey, even Apple computers are faster when running some kinds of software.

 

[SaturnX]

I don't think they are burring themselves, for one fact, us, the techsavvy, make a very small percentage of computer users and who the truths about Intel / AMD and understand computers. The average person will see 1.7Ghz or 1.8Ghz, they don't know what RDRAM or DDRRAM is, it's all numbers. Intel knows this and uses it for their advantage especially in OEMs, such as Dell. Also, many average users barely even know of AMD, so I think that Intel hasn't dug themselves into a whole just yet.

--Mark

 

[majewski9]

Intel doesn't care all that much about performance! If they cared about performance they wouldn't have released such a poor chip. My 1.33ghz smokes the pentium 4 in all the benchmarks! Mhz for Mhz the Athlon is much more powerful! Imagine if AMD had a 1.8ghz Athlon and Anandtech ran it against a 1.8ghz P4! Haha the Athlon would kill it in all the benchmarks.
What Intel does have is a name! People know the Pentium name much more than the Athlon. AMD has accomplished a lot with the Athlon, but they havent made the name stick yet.

 

[majewski9]

Who will be on top at the end of 2002? AMD or Intel? Someone else?

 

[ksallen]

I agree completely with Tharyn. Most people on this forum know enough to make educated decisions about going with intel, or amd. However, the VAST majority of computer buyers have no clue. They see intel, and think &quot;yeah, i saw that company on tv&quot;, and that is more than enough. &quot;1.7GHz must be better than 1.4 GHz&quot;... yadda yadda yadda. I think Intel has a lot of mistakes it can make before truly &quot;burning itself&quot;

 

[MasterHoss]

Just wait until Northwood come out...I mean because that thing should be further optimized to handle RDRAM's throughput; moreover, WinXP will be out by then and that OS should better handle the newer P4 instruction set. Finally, the newer games should support SSE 2.

P4 is just too ahead of it's time--nothing out there really takes advantage of all that damn power.