Is overclocking illegal

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thanasi

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how the fukc did this thread reach 200 poat damb anyways alot of debating going on here real touchy subject
 

ExpertNovice

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.

ROFLMAO! Nice one.


For the OP.

1. Your first error was listening to a computer tech. Probably someone in a store. Flog yourself 10 times and you will be forgiven. Just don't let it happen again.

2. Critical Analysis. Is it legal to purchase the CPU and MoBo and break them into little parts? The rest of this statement is for "C" personalities who happen to be radical environmentalists... assuming that you safely crush them into a fine dust so they have been officially decomposed, separating out any biohazard and safely disposing of them in an manner approved by the FDA, FCC, NEA, Michael Moore, PETA sponsered, FBI, CNN, xyzzy, plugh, and George Soros. If so, then you can overclock.

If asked, I will deny having made this statement.
 

eventhorizon

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.

Then wouldn't the people who bought the FX-55 at 2.6GHz & overclock it to something like... 3 GHz also be stealing? Probably stealing from what? the FX-59? And also to overclock we would be paying extras... for better cooling so it would run stable, the better motherboards that would support such an overclock... So what's wrong? We are still paying, just in different ways.
 

RobCur

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Originally posted by: Avalon
Originally posted by: JJ650
I think that Rob is just out TYRING to pull people's cranks. I think he's also getting some good laughs.

The link for the site he gave kinda reminds of The Onion
And if you are ever in need of a good laugh, go read the onion. Just don't take it seriously (or him for that matter).

I love the article in on building your own PC. If anyone actually considered this site factual and true, then read this article Building your own PC and then ask if it is serious or not. If you don't read it, he tells you to buy an Abit KT7-Raid (mind, this was written in 2001) and buy a P4 to put in it. Have fun trying that.

He's not intelligent enough to even cook up a stunt, let alone use english grammar correctly.

i haven't responded for awhile so you decided talk behind my back?
do you have to force your belief onto others that we all have to agree on one thing to give you that warm fuzzy feelings?

overclockers don't like being a minority, they want to be popular and accepted by all. i think they try too hard often through peer pressure forcing others who don't like it to overclock as well. what is their to gain if everyone overclocked? it would piss the manufacturers off as their cpu won't sell for a good price not to mention most cpu don't overclock well. overclockers think they know it all, even more then the cpu maker, that is their downfall. so wtf would I buy a faster cpu if it was overclocked by amd or intel? couldn't I sue their ass if i can prove they overclocked as well?


 

RobCur

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btw, can I return a fried cpu and said it dues to an overclock? why is it not covered under warranty if its legal? what a bunch of dumbasses that likes to shove their asses around spewing nonsenses about the legality of overclockings under the table. oh well, its not like I have lost my pride or anything like that. what they dont know is that i have a motor mouth that is 100 times faster then their tarded mouth which takes quite a bit of time to even make a response. since they have lost their argument, they turn to childish bashing and it becomes pointless. all lost their argument already? I have finally come to an end, i have won because I never give up.

see ya. children... children... of the corn? you have to accept my opinions otherwise why should I accept yours? just stfu already and admit we all think differently?






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ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: RobCur
btw, can I return a fried cpu and said it dues to an overclock? why is it not covered under warranty if its legal?
No laws prevent me from overclocking my CPUs. However, no one will disagree with you that it is illegal and unethical to trick the manufacturer into replacing a CPU under warranty that has been damaged by the user's own negligence in running the CPU too far out of spec.
what a bunch of dumbasses that likes to shove their asses around spewing nonsenses about the legality of overclockings under the table. oh well, its not like I have lost my pride or anything like that. what they dont know is that i have a motor mouth that is 100 times faster then their tarded mouth which takes quite a bit of time to even make a response. since they have lost their argument, they turn to childish bashing and it becomes pointless. all lost their argument already? I have finally come to an end, i have won because I never give up.

see ya. children... children... of the corn? you have to accept my opinions otherwise why should I accept yours? just stfu already and admit we all think differently?
Who's doing the childish bashing now? I'll ignore this nonsense for the sake of asking you once again to show me definitive proof of the laws that clearly state that overclocking is illegal.
 

Aquila76

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Originally posted by: RobCur
... i have a motor mouth that is 100 times faster then their tarded mouth ... I have finally come to an end, i have won because I never give up.

The problem with a 'motor mouth' is that you just end up spitting out unchecked factless non-truth BS unlike someone with a so-called 'tarded mouth' who actually thinks before they post.

Oh, and in regards to your 'winning' check THIS out.
 

raincityboy

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Originally posted by: RobCur
why is it not covered under warranty if its legal?

Just because they don't recommend it makes it illegal?

I just tore the tag off of my matress, are you going to call the cops?
 

CreativeTom

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Originally posted by: thanasi
isnt overclocking illegal wouldnt you think it is cause you getting something that not suppose to be yours.It might sound stupid but what do you think about it?some pc tech told me it is,but yet again why does motherboards help you overclock


Is being this stupid illegal, just wondering? (sorry I know that was real mean but hey I couldn't resiste it)
 

exar333

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overclocking is absolutely illegal...no if and or buts....

wait...*glance at sig* i guess it's not...

but i suppose i deserve to burn in hell for OCing? or least to have my family die in a "terrible fire" caused by OCing...i guess that would be fair...

what a joke...

 

GuitarDaddy

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RobCur, you seem unable to grasp the concept of "Legality", legality has nothing to do with opinion or beliefs. Just because you don't like something, or don't agree with something its illegal That's just ignorant. And then to post your illogical beliefs in a public "Overclocking forum" and get upset when no one agrees with you; thats just trolling, you should just hang a "Kick Me" sign on your butt.
 

ExpertNovice

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: RobCur
btw, can I return a fried cpu and said it dues to an overclock? why is it not covered under warranty if its legal?
No laws prevent me from overclocking my CPUs. However, no one will disagree with you that it is illegal and unethical to trick the manufacturer into replacing a CPU under warranty that has been damaged by the user's own negligence in running the CPU too far out of spec.

I was going to ask you why you bother. They either know the truth and ar simply trolling or they actually don't and don't care to learn and you can't possibly hope to reason with the unreasonable.

Then it dawned on me the reason for their being unreasonable. They tell you their motives if you simply read the handle! Actually pretty cute. Check out the definitions.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=rob&x=21&y=13
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=cur&x=17&y=17

 

TGS

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Originally posted by: RobCur
btw, can I return a fried cpu and said it dues to an overclock? why is it not covered under warranty if its legal?

The manufacturer specifies a limit or working state of the equipment they sell you. If you make after market modifications, they will not warranty the equipment they have sold you.

Overclock your CPU, breaks the warranty.
Mod-chip in the Xbox, breaks the warranty.
Put a turbo in your car, probably going to break the warranty.

None of the above activities are illegal in any fashion. All of which will break your warranty. Now if you try to unscrupulously use a warranty on a product that you ran out of specification then that would be illegal.
 

coomar

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isn't ati releasing an x550 which is just an overclocked x300? there are other examples along the same lines, overclocking isn't illegal, it just invalidates your warranty, once you purchase a cpu, you can fire it out of a potato cannon if you want (assuming your not aiming at anyone or anything)
 

RichUK

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man is this thread still around .. you would think that people would have the idea by now
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: TGS
Now if you try to unscrupulously use a warranty on a product that you ran out of specification then that would be illegal.

I have seen this repeated by several people, and I didn't bother to respond. But this is also false. Although this type of unscrupulous act is unethical and possibly immoral (depending on your beliefs) it is not illegal. The guidlines for qualifing for a warranty are policies of the company you bought from, not laws. The only legal burdens regarding warranty lies with the seller not the buyer.

Making a bogus warranty claim, is basically asking a company to give you free product that you don't have a rightful claim to per their company policy. If the company for whatever reason honors this claim, you have committed no crime. Many people confuse this with submitting a false insurance claim. This is a crime because an insurance policy is a binding legal document with specified legal responsibilities for both parties, a warranty on consumer electronics is not.
 

Markfw

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GuitarDaddy, are you going to school to be a lawyer, or are you an attorney ? I certainly think what you said sounds right, so much so I am asking, since it sounds like legal talk to me.
 

hmmzzz

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"is overclocking illegal" off course not, its your product, you bought it , you may do with it as you please....
 

TGS

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Per our beloved friends at dictionary.com

Warranty

war·ran·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wôrn-t, wr-)
n. pl. war·ran·ties
Official authorization, sanction, or warrant.
Justification or valid grounds for an act or a course of action.
Law.
An assurance by the seller of property that the goods or property are as represented or will be as promised.
The insured's guarantee that the facts are as stated in reference to an insurance risk or that specified conditions will be fulfilled to keep the contract effective.
A covenant by which the seller of land binds himself or herself and his or her heirs to defend the security of the estate conveyed.
A judicial writ; a warrant.
A guarantee given to the purchaser by a company stating that a product is reliable and free from known defects and that the seller will, without charge, repair or replace defective parts within a given time limit and under certain conditions.


And

fraud
fraud ( P ) Pronunciation Key (frôd)
n.
A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
A piece of trickery; a trick.

One that defrauds; a cheat.
One who assumes a false pose; an impostor.

A warranty is a Lawful binding contact that you can hold the seller legally responsible for. If you deceive the seller into replacing your product that you broke, thus nullifing the warranty contract, you are engaging in unlawful activities. The seller is honoring the warranty, based on good faith on their part. If you get away with defrauding a warranty, you are still obtaining what could amount to stolen property.

I'll see if I can nail down specific case law for you.

Though this particular issue is a tad of topic.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
GuitarDaddy, are you going to school to be a lawyer, or are you an attorney ? I certainly think what you said sounds right, so much so I am asking, since it sounds like legal talk to me.

I went to Law School for a year and 1/2, many years ago. By no means an expert on law
 
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