Is overclocking illegal

thanasi

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isnt overclocking illegal wouldnt you think it is cause you getting something that not suppose to be yours.It might sound stupid but what do you think about it?some pc tech told me it is,but yet again why does motherboards help you overclock
 

Diogenes2

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Originally posted by: thanasi
isnt overclocking illegal wouldnt you think it is cause you getting something that not suppose to be yours.It might sound stupid but what do you think about it?some pc tech told me it is,but yet again why does motherboards help you overclock
Is taking a CPU that will do 2.6g and locking it at 2.2 to sell at that speed, illegal?

Overclocking is not really ' overclocking '.. When CPU's are ' really ' overclocked, they don't work..

If it's working at the highest possible speed, it's ' Maximized '...
 

Koyanisquatsi

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Only area I can see legal issues is if a company overclocks a lower end product and sells it as the higher clocked part.
 

NetDevil

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Why would motherboard manufacturers include overclocking options on their bios if it would be illegal ?
 

MobiusPizza

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LOL
If overclocking is illegal the world's prison capacity is not going to be sufficient

just kidding. No it's not illegal. The CPU makers doesn't want you to overclock because people just buy a cheaper CPU and overclock it instead of buying a more expensive one. So CPU manufaacturers tend to lock the multiplier. They won't lock the FSB because I don't think anyone would buy the CPUs if FSB is locked
 

Jeff7181

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It is illegal for a manufacturer to take an Athlon64 3500+ and overclock it to 2.4 GHz, and sell it as an Athlon64 3700+.

It is legal for you to overclock your own CPU, or sell a computer as overclocked.

Basically, if you're overclocking and lying about it to increase the value of it so you can sell it, that's illegal.
 

Amplifier

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It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.
 

TStep

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This guy seems to know what overclocking is. He may know the answer.

Edit: I better start converting my wardrobe to pinstripes.
 

thanasi

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lol but you got to look at it like cars they got a governer chip in them like an BMW M3 and if you take that governer off its illegal,I basically took my 3700 to 2.7 faster then an fx55 is that fair to others paying 800 bucks for that performance,it might sound stupid but a good debate
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.
I hope you are being sarcastic, because if you really believe that, I'm speechless. :shocked:

If overclocking is illegal, point me to the laws that state it, and show me the lawsuits filed against average folks (or system builders who overclock and state so explicitly) for this "offense." Like others have said, of course, it is illegal to overclock a processor and sell it in a system claiming that it is a faster model than it really is.
 

Lord Banshee

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Originally posted by: thanasi
lol but you got to look at it like cars they got a governer chip in them like an BMW M3 and if you take that governer off its illegal,I basically took my 3700 to 2.7 faster then an fx55 is that fair to others paying 800 bucks for that performance,it might sound stupid but a good debate

But it isn't illegal to buy a turbo kit for my car and increase my HP and TQ by 50-80%. I will not have a warrenty car anymore and same thing for the CPU.

There is not battle on this as it isn't illegal. If it was they would only sell PC3200 RAM and lock the FSB like the others said.

The overclocking community is so small compared to the world computer.
 

ryanv12

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Yeah, cars have govenors because there are things called speed limits. If you go over them, you're putting yourself and others at risk. I haven't heard of any cases of CPU speed excess killing off anyone. You may fry your chip and lose a few bucks, but that's all the harm it will do and the government doesn't care about that.
 

ryanv12

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Well, either way it would be a manufacturer's decision on how to regulate this. The issue at hand is legal intervention, and since the manufacturers have the power to stop overclocking if they wanted to, then they would. Therefore, a law is not required to protect these businesses.
 

Diogenes2

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.
I hope you are being sarcastic..
I hope so too.. It would follow that if overclocking is unethical, underclocking ( by AMD and Intel ) is also.. And if you are buying an ' underclocked ' chip, you are encouraging this unethical behavior..

P.S.

I'm pretty sure Amplifier is yanking our chain.. 'Does it a lot..
 

ryanv12

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Originally posted by: Diogenes2
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.
I hope you are being sarcastic..
I hope so too.. It would follow that if overclocking is unethical, underclocking ( by AMD and Intel ) is also.. And if you are buying an ' underclocked ' chip, you are encouraging this unethical behavior..


Right - if all ethics were law, CPU manufacturers would be just as affected.
 

stratman

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Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.
I hope you are being sarcastic, because if you really believe that, I'm speechless. :shocked:

If overclocking is illegal, point me to the laws that state it, and show me the lawsuits filed against average folks (or system builders who overclock and state so explicitly) for this "offense." Like others have said, of course, it is illegal to overclock a processor and sell it in a system claiming that it is a faster model than it really is.

I think Amplifier is parodying the RIAA and MPAA argument.
 

Jeff7181

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The car analogy is a poor one... modifying your engine often changes the emissions and then your car violates emissions laws so it's not street legal. The car manufacturer, however, won't sue you for messing with their masterpiece.

So maybe some tree huggers will come after you for using more electricity with your overclocked CPU.
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: Amplifier
It is not only illegal, but unethical to overclock a CPU. If you paid for a 1.8ghz processor and get 2.6ghz out of it you are stealing plain and simple.

Bull$hit. You paid money for a piece of silicon. It is then yours to do with as you wish plain and simple. You did not purchase a license to use said piece of silicon in specific manner or at a certain speed. This doesn't even fall under the grey areas of IP law.
 

Promethply

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Hell, it's not only illegal, but unethical, immoral, and unfair to the CPU manufacturer if the overclocking works out, furthermore, whoever dares to do it will go straight to purgatory
 

thanasi

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Originally posted by: Promethply
Hell, it's not only illegal, but unethical, immoral, and unfair to the CPU manufacturer if the overclocking works out, furthermore, whoever dares to do it will go straight to purgatory

LOL
 

GuitarDaddy

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Originally posted by: Promethply
Hell, it's not only illegal, but unethical, immoral, and unfair to the CPU manufacturer if the overclocking works out, furthermore, whoever dares to do it will go straight to purgatory

Damn! I,m scared now. I also heard they were about to start "Random Overclock" testing in my neighboorhood, I guess I'll give up overclocking and go back to smokin crack
 

aka1nas

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Originally posted by: thanasi
lol but you got to look at it like cars they got a governer chip in them like an BMW M3 and if you take that governer off its illegal,I basically took my 3700 to 2.7 faster then an fx55 is that fair to others paying 800 bucks for that performance,it might sound stupid but a good debate

Taking the governor out of a car is specifically illegal due to legislation passed. There is nothing inherently immoral or unethical about modifying your car in and of itself. Once again, if you buy a physical item, it belongs to you. It most likely isn't even illegal to modify the governor of the car, but to drive it on the public road system with a modified or disabled governer.
 
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