Is the confederate flag racist?

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Cogman
If I remember Correctly, the Cival war was not about the abolishment of slavery. The abolishment of slavery was the Proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

Wow, someone with independent thought that was not brainwashed by liberal history books and you are not a Southerner....:Q

LOL! That's a piece of work!

I went 14 years at a christian school only to go to one of those evil public universities spewing their liberal propaganda to find out that the Civil War was actually about secession not slavery. But what do those pompous, liberal profs know?

:roll:

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

So if lets say texas becomes predominately hispanic, it would be ok to change the Texas state flag to a replica of the Mexican flag?

If that's what the majority of US citizens living in TX want, I don't see a problem with it. I don't live there, so I have no right to tell them what to do.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Cogman
If I remember Correctly, the Cival war was not about the abolishment of slavery. The abolishment of slavery was the Proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

Wow, someone with independent thought that was not brainwashed by liberal history books and you are not a Southerner....:Q

I AM a southerner, and if I remember correctly, Lincoln gave the south an altimatum of 13 days to move the slaves out of the south. I believe in the meantime, he blockaded southern ports with Union vessels to keep Soviet ships from reinforcing the south. Then something happens with Mexico, and the South launched an attack on the North. During the ensuing battle, there was serious damage done to the historic Mason-Dixon jail, and the White House was burned down.

:thumbsup:

you don't remember correctly. your grasp of history is miniscule at best. The fact that you said Soviet during a civil war discussion is probably the funniest thing I've read today.

.... I'm seriously shocked that your sarcasm meter could be that fvcked up. Did you accidentally tape a confederate flag over the display? :Q

with the misuse of history I've seen in this thread so far, I couldn't tell at the time.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

So if lets say texas becomes predominately hispanic, it would be ok to change the Texas state flag to a replica of the Mexican flag?

If that's what the majority of US citizens living in TX want, I don't see a problem with it. I don't live there, so I have no right to tell them what to do.

its ironic that the decision over the confederate flag comes down to states rights.

 

[FinalFantasy]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

I just quoted the whole 2nd admendment in whole. Me thinks you have the declaration and the constitution mixed up.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

I just quoted the whole 2nd admendment in whole. Me thinks you have the declaration and the constitution mixed up.

Not at all. Weapons are an important part of a rebellion.

 

[Raspewtin]

Nobody displays the locks and whips of that period in their home, but somehow the flag itself is allowed to be disconnected from what it stood for and be a source of pride. They should at least be consistent and display everything that consisted of the Southern philosophy at the time IMO.

Regarding Civil War not being about slavery, I get the whole cotton gin thing, but it's a joke to think that slavery wasn't a central issue.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

So if lets say texas becomes predominately hispanic, it would be ok to change the Texas state flag to a replica of the Mexican flag?

If that's what the majority of US citizens living in TX want, I don't see a problem with it. I don't live there, so I have no right to tell them what to do.

its ironic that the decision over the confederate flag comes down to states rights.

To me it's only logical that a state should have the right to decide what it uses to represent itself.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Cogman
If I remember Correctly, the Cival war was not about the abolishment of slavery. The abolishment of slavery was the Proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

Wow, someone with independent thought that was not brainwashed by liberal history books and you are not a Southerner....:Q

LOL! That's a piece of work!

I went 14 years at a christian school only to go to one of those evil public universities spewing their liberal propaganda to find out that the Civil War was actually about secession not slavery. But what do those pompous, liberal profs know?

:roll:

Goody goody. How bout a round of name that author...

"Any people whatsoever have the right to abolish the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. This is a valuable, a most sacred right." said in 1848

In case you need a hint, it came from one of the greatest hypocrites of that time period...

 

[0roo0roo]

of course its racist. its about succession..yea..succession so u can go about and continue beating ur slave n*gg*rs. oh its about slave rights alright, the right to keep beating those darkies.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The justification for rebellion is actually found in the Declaration of Independence.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It's funny though, in this day and age, so much praise is directed towards a racist. But don't let me stop you from worshipping this tyrant.

"I will say then, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way, the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters of the free negroes, or jurors, or qualifying them to hold office, or having them to marry with white people. I will say in addition, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races, which, I suppose, will forever forbid the two races living together upon terms of social and political equality, and inasmuch as they cannot so live, that while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior, that I as much as any other man am in favor of the superior position being assigned to the white man."

 

[FinalFantasy]

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today for me and the life I live and what I, yes I, experience, maybe not you, and that's what those people attitudes are like around here...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

 

[FinalFantasy]

Didn't mean to post.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

I see it perfectly from your point of view. You get offended at a piece of cloth. You think you are the only black person on the forums. You want the flag changed, do something about it instead of sitting around pouting like a little bitch. And before you whine that I'm being mean, that was the nice thought going through my cracker head.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: ELP

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Cogman
If I remember Correctly, the Cival war was not about the abolishment of slavery. The abolishment of slavery was the Proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

Wow, someone with independent thought that was not brainwashed by liberal history books and you are not a Southerner....:Q

LOL! That's a piece of work!

I went 14 years at a christian school only to go to one of those evil public universities spewing their liberal propaganda to find out that the Civil War was actually about secession not slavery. But what do those pompous, liberal profs know?

:roll:

Goody goody. How bout a round of name that author...

"Any people whatsoever have the right to abolish the existing government and form a new one that suits them better. This is a valuable, a most sacred right." said in 1848

In case you need a hint, it came from one of the greatest hypocrites of that time period...

That's great if the people decide to do that. but it's not the right of only certain people to decide to do that based on skin color. if the south had let their entire population decide to rebel, they might have had a leg to stand on.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

I just quoted the whole 2nd admendment in whole. Me thinks you have the declaration and the constitution mixed up.

Not at all. Weapons are an important part of a rebellion.

please, you don't have a foot to stand on.

Speech is an important part of rebellion too, so does the 1st admendment guarantee your right to rebellion?

Why create a second one if the first one sufficed?

Even if right to rebellion was allowed as you say, how do you judge such an abstract concept as "betterment of people" ?

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

I see it perfectly from your point of view. You get offended at a piece of cloth. You think you are the only black person on the forums. You want the flag changed, do something about it instead of sitting around pouting like a little bitch. And before you whine that I'm being mean, that was the nice thought going through my cracker head.

and the mean one was "i'd like to lynch that n!gger."???

the irony of complaining about people thinking they're the only ones in the world coming from someone who doesn't give a rats ass if he offends people seems to be lost on you.

fvck off. stop posting asshole. i'm sure you don't mind my saying that since according to you, people should be offended constantly. while i'm at it, you're a racist, you're a liar, and you're a worthless human being. your mother should be ashamed to have contributed you to the gene pool. but it's cool that i say this because people should be offended constantly.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The justification for rebellion is actually found in the Declaration of Independence.

if you would read a couple of posts underneath that, I comment on monkey's possible mixup of the two.

There is a distinct difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

One is a document of law, one is not.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

I just quoted the whole 2nd admendment in whole. Me thinks you have the declaration and the constitution mixed up.

Not at all. Weapons are an important part of a rebellion.

please, you don't have a foot to stand on.

Speech is an important part of rebellion too, so does the 1st admendment guarantee your right to rebellion?

Why create a second one if the first one sufficed?

Even if right to rebellion was allowed as you say, how do you judge such an abstract concept as "betterment of people" ?

It's like everything else in this downward spiral of a State, it's all interpretted by lawyers.

Speech is great, but guns get work done. I'm not really argueing that rebellion is protected by the constitution directly though. I realize it isn't, it's just part of the side effects.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
2nd admendment says quote

" A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "

says nothing about rebellion being a constitutionally protected act.

The whole concept of rebellion being constitutionally protected is a paradox as the constitution is a set of laws and rebellion means the breaking of those laws.

The second amendment allows a rebellion if necessary for the betterment of the people.

I just quoted the whole 2nd admendment in whole. Me thinks you have the declaration and the constitution mixed up.

Not at all. Weapons are an important part of a rebellion.

please, you don't have a foot to stand on.

Speech is an important part of rebellion too, so does the 1st admendment guarantee your right to rebellion?

Why create a second one if the first one sufficed?

Even if right to rebellion was allowed as you say, how do you judge such an abstract concept as "betterment of people" ?

Because for starters, the Second Amendment backs up all the other Amendments. If the government knew you had no (let me steal your phrase) foot to stand on, they would have no problem oppressing the people. But since you do have the right to free speech, assembly, etc and you have the right to back your words up, they might think twice about taking your rights away.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

I see it perfectly from your point of view. You get offended at a piece of cloth. You think you are the only black person on the forums. You want the flag changed, do something about it instead of sitting around pouting like a little bitch. And before you whine that I'm being mean, that was the nice thought going through my cracker head.

and the mean one was "i'd like to lynch that n!gger."???

the irony of complaining about people thinking they're the only ones in the world coming from someone who doesn't give a rats ass if he offends people seems to be lost on you.

fvck off. stop posting asshole.

I care if I offend people. If you noticed I think offending people is a good thing, so I definitely care.

And lynching a great person[/b] never popped into my mind.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

I see it perfectly from your point of view. You get offended at a piece of cloth. You think you are the only black person on the forums. You want the flag changed, do something about it instead of sitting around pouting like a little bitch. And before you whine that I'm being mean, that was the nice thought going through my cracker head.

and the mean one was "i'd like to lynch that n!gger."???

the irony of complaining about people thinking they're the only ones in the world coming from someone who doesn't give a rats ass if he offends people seems to be lost on you.

fvck off. stop posting asshole.

I care if I offend people. If you noticed I think offending people is a good thing, so I definitely care.

And lynching a great person[/b] never popped into my mind.

Oh mighy emperor, please smite that asshat.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: amoeba
eh its cool, been a long time since I studied this subject too.


For those that still believe that certain states should keep around the confederate flag, please retort to this post I made above :



The connection of the confederate flag to racism can be only viewed in the context which it is displayed.

That said, it is offensive enough to some people that prohibiting its use within government symbols would not be going overboard.

Purely for the fact that its a symbol of rebellion, it should not be used as a state flag, etc....

Imagine if certain states that were predominately british loyalists during the american revolution ended up creating state flags after the war which included exact replicas of the british flag.

This country was founded on rebellion. In fact, rebellion is the duty of every patriot against an oppressive government (and the south saw the north as oppressive, whether they were right or not).

People should be offended. Constantly.

We are not just talking about "people" as you stated above...we are talking about the government of a country, a way of life and the rights of all people who live under that government. If anything...it's my right to live a happy "normal" life without having to be constantly reminded that there are some white people out there who would, if given the chance, happily kick the $h)t out of me for just being black...that's what the Confederate flag stands for today and that's what those people attitudes are like...I see people like that on a weekly, if not more, basis...that's my reality and the world I live in, but maybe it's not the same for you. Maybe "people" wouldn't constantly be offended, if more "people" would step out of their 150 mile radius they call "the world", turned off the "local news" and thought about things from another persons point of view....and just because you "vacationed" or " in another part of the country does not mean you "know" that area and it's people.

I guess my point is, you don't live my life, I don't live yours, you're NOT black and you'll never be...so you'll never understand why "black people" get offended over the, according to people like you, "little stuff" and why we "overreact" in certain situations...you'll never know why there's gangs or why "black people" like "rap music"...lol

I'm done trying to convince the ignorant...it's pointless...they do not even have the foundation or for that fact the knowledge to even begin to see the world from another person's point of view or they just refuse to...and that folks is exactly why they'll never know or learn anything new they are ignorant ("an unlearned group incapable of understanding complex issue" which for the most part includes "lack of guile or worldly experience ") and will always be ignorant.

Goodnight! ;D

I see it perfectly from your point of view. You get offended at a piece of cloth. You think you are the only black person on the forums. You want the flag changed, do something about it instead of sitting around pouting like a little bitch. And before you whine that I'm being mean, that was the nice thought going through my cracker head.

and the mean one was "i'd like to lynch that n!gger."???

the irony of complaining about people thinking they're the only ones in the world coming from someone who doesn't give a rats ass if he offends people seems to be lost on you.

fvck off. stop posting asshole.

I care if I offend people. If you noticed I think offending people is a good thing, so I definitely care.

And lynching a great person[/b] never popped into my mind.

Oh mighy emperor, please smite that asshat.