is tiger woods even human?

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z0mb13

Lifer
May 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

how sad this comment came from an elite member
 

classy

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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Tiger right now is the best golfer ever. He just doesn't have the longevity yet of Jack, but he has surpassed Jack in every other category. I think what really seperates him is the fact he is an athlete and is built like one. He is physically just superior to all the other guys. He looks like he probably pumps iron. The other guys are great golfers, but not athletic or have the physical development. Tiger is a great golfer and looks very much like he works at his physical aspect. He is no doubt dominate, more dominate than anyone before him. Kinda scary because at his age you would expect him to get better.
 

GuitarDaddy

Lifer
Nov 9, 2004
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He is the ultimate golfing machine! His pysical talents are unmatched, as is his mental game when he is on.
The scary part is he seems to have taken his course management skills to another level and seems to be getting better, which is bad news for everybody else.
 

BeauJangles

Lifer
Aug 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

What about baseball? That's all muscle memory, but some people never can get it right. Tiger has an enormous amount of talent that has been finely honed through years of playing.
 

dethman

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

What about baseball? That's all muscle memory, but some people never can get it right. Tiger has an enormous amount of talent that has been finely honed through years of playing.

baseball is not all muscle memory. you have to adjust what you do for every single pitch that comes at you because every pitch is different. in golf, the ball just sits there.
 

CoolTech

Platinum Member
Jul 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

what sets tiger apart from his competition is his mental toughness - his ability to consistently handle pressure and muster that X factor which seems to elude the competition. Needless to say, a lot of players have played golf since they were tykes, through grade school, high school and college. But tiger has been consistently good throughout this time period, unlike the rest. 3 amateurs in a row, wow! The things he has done as a young man and today are above and beyond those with the same amount of time playing the game.
 

CoolTech

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Jul 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

What about baseball? That's all muscle memory, but some people never can get it right. Tiger has an enormous amount of talent that has been finely honed through years of playing.

baseball is not all muscle memory. you have to adjust what you do for every single pitch that comes at you because every pitch is different. in golf, the ball just sits there.

right, as far as baseball goes, imho, give all players corked bats and steroids and I bet they wont all be able to consistently hit it out of the park.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

This is why nerds shouldn't comment on sports. They don't know a damn thing about them.
 

laurenlex

Platinum Member
Feb 26, 2004
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Tiger is not my favorite player, but...

He has mastered the toughest six inches of golf in the world, the space between his right and left ear.

He has no choke, and will surpass Nickalus and Sarazen's records.

His is history in the making.

P.S. The other pro golfers don't suck.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
well he is human, he pushed that 5 wood.

There's a subroutine in his programming that will kick in and cause him to screw up if his performance has been suspiciously good. He's built to seem human, after all.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: SKORPI0
Originally posted by: bleeb
He is like the Ron Jeremy of Pron

fixed...

:roll:

it was right the first time.

"He is like the Ron Jeremy of Golf" or "Tiger is to golf as Ron Jeremy is to Pron".

the way you fixed it makes no sense.
 

five40

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Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: bignateyk
lol all he needs is 2 more pga wins and he'll be right amongst the legends. No doubt he'll clear the top by the end of his career

Easily, if somebody doesn't put snakes on his plane.

fixed
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).

Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...

No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.

You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?

Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.

I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).

Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...

No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.

You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?

Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.

I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!

exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).

Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...

No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.

You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?

Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.

I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!

exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.

The fact that he even played AAA baseball is beyond my comprehension! It's amazing, really. Some guys play their whole life to get to that level. And he hung in there, kinda / sorta, didn't he? Perhaps his celebrity status gave him the free pass on to the team.

Still... mad props. Athletes that cross over into other sports are just SICK.
 

PlatinumGold

Lifer
Aug 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).

Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...

No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.

You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?

Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.

I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!

exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.

The fact that he even played AAA baseball is beyond my comprehension! It's amazing, really. Some guys play their whole life to get to that level. And he hung in there, kinda / sorta, didn't he? Perhaps his celebrity status gave him the free pass on to the team.

Still... mad props. Athletes that cross over into other sports are just SICK.

well, if you want to talk cross over athletes, Deion as much as people love to hate him WAS a superb crossover athlete, All Star football player and could have been an all star baseball player if he had played a bit more. he was much much better at baseball than MJ ever could have been.

also, Bo would have been a star at both.
 

kranky

Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.

I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.

This is why nerds shouldn't comment on sports. They don't know a damn thing about them.

Now this is the third post criticizing what I said. How are you reading things into my post that aren't there? I never said ANYONE could be Tiger. I said that there are many people who could excel in certain sports if they had the same opportunities as he did.

I am certain that is true.
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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Originally posted by: kranky
I said that there are many people who could excel in certain sports if they had the same opportunities as he did.

I am certain that is true.
I don't think you are giving him enough credit, but I agree that the potential to succeed is there when your parents (or in this case, father) pushes you as hard as possible to be what he wants you to be. Or, as you put it, opportunities.
 
Jul 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).

Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...

No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.

You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?

Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.

I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!

exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.

The fact that he even played AAA baseball is beyond my comprehension! It's amazing, really. Some guys play their whole life to get to that level. And he hung in there, kinda / sorta, didn't he? Perhaps his celebrity status gave him the free pass on to the team.

Still... mad props. Athletes that cross over into other sports are just SICK.

well, if you want to talk cross over athletes, Deion as much as people love to hate him WAS a superb crossover athlete, All Star football player and could have been an all star baseball player if he had played a bit more. he was much much better at baseball than MJ ever could have been.

also, Bo would have been a star at both.

Yeah, Bo was probably the best example, I was watching something on ESPN once I think where they put it the best, it was unfair for everyone for Bo Jackson to get hurt, he could have been the greatest athelete ever. before his injury he wasnt even at the peak of his career and he was already an allstar baseball player and probowl football player

 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Would the OP kindly refrain from posting straight lines which provoke smartass responses that would likely get me banned.
 

BCYL

Diamond Member
Jun 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: classy
Tiger right now is the best golfer ever. He just doesn't have the longevity yet of Jack, but he has surpassed Jack in every other category. I think what really seperates him is the fact he is an athlete and is built like one. He is physically just superior to all the other guys. He looks like he probably pumps iron. The other guys are great golfers, but not athletic or have the physical development. Tiger is a great golfer and looks very much like he works at his physical aspect. He is no doubt dominate, more dominate than anyone before him. Kinda scary because at his age you would expect him to get better.

You are right, Tiger does pump iron... i read in a golf magazine a while back, Tiger spends a few hours in the gym everyday conditioning his body...
 

GuitarDaddy

Lifer
Nov 9, 2004
11,465
1
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Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: classy
Tiger right now is the best golfer ever. He just doesn't have the longevity yet of Jack, but he has surpassed Jack in every other category. I think what really seperates him is the fact he is an athlete and is built like one. He is physically just superior to all the other guys. He looks like he probably pumps iron. The other guys are great golfers, but not athletic or have the physical development. Tiger is a great golfer and looks very much like he works at his physical aspect. He is no doubt dominate, more dominate than anyone before him. Kinda scary because at his age you would expect him to get better.

You are right, Tiger does pump iron... i read in a golf magazine a while back, Tiger spends a few hours in the gym everyday conditioning his body...

Yep, he can bench 350lbs, not many golfers can say that
 
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