Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
What about baseball? That's all muscle memory, but some people never can get it right. Tiger has an enormous amount of talent that has been finely honed through years of playing.
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
What about baseball? That's all muscle memory, but some people never can get it right. Tiger has an enormous amount of talent that has been finely honed through years of playing.
baseball is not all muscle memory. you have to adjust what you do for every single pitch that comes at you because every pitch is different. in golf, the ball just sits there.
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
Originally posted by: z0mb13
well he is human, he pushed that 5 wood.
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Nicklaus has had a superior career thus far.
Originally posted by: SKORPI0
Originally posted by: bleeb
He is like the Ron Jeremy of Pron
fixed...
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: bignateyk
lol all he needs is 2 more pga wins and he'll be right amongst the legends. No doubt he'll clear the top by the end of his career
Easily, if somebody doesn't put snakes on his plane.
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).
Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...
No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.
You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?
Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.
I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).
Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...
No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.
You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?
Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.
I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!
exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
Originally posted by: meltdown75
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).
Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...
No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.
You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?
Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.
I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!
exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
The fact that he even played AAA baseball is beyond my comprehension! It's amazing, really. Some guys play their whole life to get to that level. And he hung in there, kinda / sorta, didn't he? Perhaps his celebrity status gave him the free pass on to the team.
Still... mad props. Athletes that cross over into other sports are just SICK.
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: kranky
Not to take anything away from Tiger, but if you had been taught how to play golf from the time you could walk, and getting to play as often as you wanted, you could probably be pretty good too.
I think golf, bowling, billiards, and some other sports that are heavily reliant on muscle memory could be mastered by many people if they had the opportunity.
This is why nerds shouldn't comment on sports. They don't know a damn thing about them.
I don't think you are giving him enough credit, but I agree that the potential to succeed is there when your parents (or in this case, father) pushes you as hard as possible to be what he wants you to be. Or, as you put it, opportunities.Originally posted by: kranky
I said that there are many people who could excel in certain sports if they had the same opportunities as he did.
I am certain that is true.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
OMG - MJ is a perfect example of an UBER athlete.Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Yeah today was super impressive. I didn't miss much, and I taped a lot of yesterday's coverage and fell asleep watching it last night (after I played 18 ).
Tiger is an absolute freak of golf...
No one should be able to dominate as much as he does, not in golf. Yet he is taking the parity out of golf simply by putting his game head & shoulders above the competition.
You can't take anything away from past greats of the game. Just like you can't compare Gordie Howe & Gretzky or Barry Sanders and Payton. Different eras, different people. Can you imagine the records Barry would have set if he actually would have CARED?
Anyhoo... you can try to be as good as you can possibly be at something, but if you don't have TALENT - it doesn't matter. Muscle memory and athletic ability are two different things, but IMHO they are also inextricably linked.
I think Tiger could have been good at quite a few sports, but he is a golfing GOD!
exactly, MJ was "good" at a few sports but he will never be to other sports what he was to BBALL.
The fact that he even played AAA baseball is beyond my comprehension! It's amazing, really. Some guys play their whole life to get to that level. And he hung in there, kinda / sorta, didn't he? Perhaps his celebrity status gave him the free pass on to the team.
Still... mad props. Athletes that cross over into other sports are just SICK.
well, if you want to talk cross over athletes, Deion as much as people love to hate him WAS a superb crossover athlete, All Star football player and could have been an all star baseball player if he had played a bit more. he was much much better at baseball than MJ ever could have been.
also, Bo would have been a star at both.
Originally posted by: classy
Tiger right now is the best golfer ever. He just doesn't have the longevity yet of Jack, but he has surpassed Jack in every other category. I think what really seperates him is the fact he is an athlete and is built like one. He is physically just superior to all the other guys. He looks like he probably pumps iron. The other guys are great golfers, but not athletic or have the physical development. Tiger is a great golfer and looks very much like he works at his physical aspect. He is no doubt dominate, more dominate than anyone before him. Kinda scary because at his age you would expect him to get better.
Originally posted by: BCYL
Originally posted by: classy
Tiger right now is the best golfer ever. He just doesn't have the longevity yet of Jack, but he has surpassed Jack in every other category. I think what really seperates him is the fact he is an athlete and is built like one. He is physically just superior to all the other guys. He looks like he probably pumps iron. The other guys are great golfers, but not athletic or have the physical development. Tiger is a great golfer and looks very much like he works at his physical aspect. He is no doubt dominate, more dominate than anyone before him. Kinda scary because at his age you would expect him to get better.
You are right, Tiger does pump iron... i read in a golf magazine a while back, Tiger spends a few hours in the gym everyday conditioning his body...
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Nicklaus had a longer career.