Is Trump a Republican?

jackstar7

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https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/972145798199857153

Ana is saying he isn't. Similar to what Frum, Kristol, etc. are doing trying to distance Trump from their version of the GOP.

I'd say his efforts towards deregulation, immigration, and privatization all fall squarely in the typical republican platform. The tax plan was also 100% GOP.

Also, he was chosen through their primary process and won (one way or another) and thus as president he is the leader of their party.

What say you, conservatives? Is he your leader? Or will you also disavow him?
 

Sunburn74

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Res ipsa loquitur. The thing speaks for itself.
He is the leader of the republican party and therefore a republican. Even if he openly disavowed being a republican, if he leads them then he is part of them.

Now if the question is has what it means to be a republican changed completely from say 1990 to today, then that is a completely different question.
 

cytg111

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He is a would be godfather .. in reality a stupid godfather in the process of committing stupid watergate.
 

Thebobo

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Trump is whatever he needs to be to further himself. So the GOP welcomes the grifter....he'd be a Dem if he thought it would help him.

Yep if it wasn't for Obama he would still be voting democrat he really hated that black man.

Would love to get old howard stern tapes of when Trump was to see the transformation.
 
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https://twitter.com/ananavarro/status/972145798199857153

Ana is saying he isn't. Similar to what Frum, Kristol, etc. are doing trying to distance Trump from their version of the GOP.

I'd say his efforts towards deregulation, immigration, and privatization all fall squarely in the typical republican platform. The tax plan was also 100% GOP.

Also, he was chosen through their primary process and won (one way or another) and thus as president he is the leader of their party.

What say you, conservatives? Is he your leader? Or will you also disavow him?
Wow, so you think we should let a persons hated enemies and opponents define who the are?

*edit* damn sorry. I didn't know this was a liberal circle jerk and sploogefest thread. My bad.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Trump has the GOP held hostage. He took over the deplorable base by giving them explicitly what the past leaders only paid lip service to in order to keep them bringing their votes. If the legacy GOP crosses Trump, he'll split the party taking the base with him.
 
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cytg111

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Trump has the GOP held hostage. He took over the deplorable base by giving them explicitly what the past leaders only paid lip service to in order to keep them bringing their votes. If the legacy GOP crosses Trump, he'll split the party taking the base with him.

And this is why Trump is the destruction of the GOP... it is fucking over, it is just a matter of how much damage they can manage to inflict going down.
 

UNCjigga

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Wow, so you think we should let a persons hated enemies and opponents define who the are?

*edit* damn sorry. I didn't know this was a liberal circle jerk and sploogefest thread. My bad.

Ana Navarro has been Republican longer than Trump has.
 

jackstar7

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Personally, I think all of the pundits trying to hold the NeverTrump line are hollow. They all fed the beast that led to Trump and must own their role in bringing him upon us all.

But I remain 90% certain that no lessons are being learned in the GOP, based on their continued obstruction and general lack of agenda.
 

Jhhnn

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Personally, I think all of the pundits trying to hold the NeverTrump line are hollow. They all fed the beast that led to Trump and must own their role in bringing him upon us all.

But I remain 90% certain that no lessons are being learned in the GOP, based on their continued obstruction and general lack of agenda.

The GOP agenda is obvious- to concentrate economic power & the wealth of this country into the hands of a very few people.
 
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Trump has the GOP held hostage. He took over the deplorable base by giving them explicitly what the past leaders only paid lip service to in order to keep them bringing their votes. If the legacy GOP crosses Trump, he'll split the party taking the base with him.
Not entirely accurate. He's currently holding them hostage, but prior to this, they were more than willing to go along for the ride. And still, very few are calling him on his perpetual, rambling nonsensical bullshit,.
 

BonzaiDuck

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The fly in their ointment is their philosophy of selfishness. They will tell you that it isn't such. But it is, as one would infer from aspects such as the supremacy of the Individual over the State, Freedom defined mostly to allow as much economic freedom of the few even if it cannot be infinite -- as they wish it.

You could say that our politics today is still the centuries-old dialogue over property rights, freedom and justice. If they think their freedom is threatened or diminished, they will ignore problems of justice. If they think that property rights begin and end with possession by individuals, they will choke you with their industrial waste, and threaten your health -- therefore -- your freedom.

They'd rather young men and women die in another unnecessary war, just to boost the economy with defense spending and crush the ability of the federal tier to meet mandates for domestic spending directed at domestic problems. Problems? We don't see any problems! The problems are ISIS! The problems are North Korea! The problems are globalism!. The problems are Clinton, Obama, and anyone who did their best in public service.

Today, Trump in his loudest most abrasive voice, met supporters in Western Pennsylvania. He was touting their patriotism and their commitment as "the American People."

I have a theory that Trumpies hate America. They hate America because of its evolution through the last century and into the present. And they hate an America that has the rest of us in it.

So Trump is their tantrum response.
 

BonzaiDuck

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What is your point?

Clarification would help!

They don't have a notion about slavery and freedom in the context of market concentration., The company store. The one and only oil producer, or more monopolistic enterprises. After all -- its the "free enterprise" and market thereof. Not the competitive, level playing field that makes profit harder and abundance greater.
 
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