***Israel Planning Tactical Nuclear Attack***

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

I don?t think Israel is in a position to do anything to Iran, unless the Israelis leaders have a death wish because the numbers from CIA fact book greatly favor Iran. And, IMHO, Israel military advance isn?t enough to offset the shear Iranian population number, oil independent, large GDP, and very low public debt.

It looks like Israel have to learn to play nice to its neighbors, because the US having more than enough trouble in Afghanistan & Iraq to meddle with rest of the ME countries.

Israel:
Land -- 20,770 sq km
Population -- 6,352,117
GDP -- $156.9 billion (2005 est.)
Public debt -- 99.7% of GDP (2005 est.)
Oil production -- 2,740 bbl/day (2003 est.)
Oil consumption -- 270,100 bbl/day (2003 est.)
Manpower available for military service -- males age 17-49: 1,492,125, females age 17-49: 1,443,916 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service -- males age 17-49: 1,255,902, females age 17-49: 1,212,394 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures % of GDP -- 7.7% (2005 est.)

Iran:
Land -- 1.648 million sq km
Population -- 68,688,433 (July 2006 est.)
GDP -- $569.9 billion (2005 est.)
Public debt -- 28.9% of GDP (2005 est.)
Oil ? production -- 3.979 million bbl/day (2005 est.)
Oil ? consumption -- 1.425 million bbl/day (2003 est.)
Manpower available for military service -- males age 18-49: 18,319,545, females age 18-49: 17,541,037 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service -- males age 18-49: 15,665,725, females age 18-49: 15,005,597 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures % of GDP -- 3.3% (2003 est.)

If you google some info on Arab-Israeli wars you will see that numbers don't matter.

Hezbullah gave them a run for their money in the summer.

Hezbullah got destroyed, no way around it. The media might spin it as if Israel lost that war, but Hez didn't even come close to winning it.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: NoShangriLa

I don?t think Israel is in a position to do anything to Iran, unless the Israelis leaders have a death wish because the numbers from CIA fact book greatly favor Iran. And, IMHO, Israel military advance isn?t enough to offset the shear Iranian population number, oil independent, large GDP, and very low public debt.

It looks like Israel have to learn to play nice to its neighbors, because the US having more than enough trouble in Afghanistan & Iraq to meddle with rest of the ME countries.

Israel:
Land -- 20,770 sq km
Population -- 6,352,117
GDP -- $156.9 billion (2005 est.)
Public debt -- 99.7% of GDP (2005 est.)
Oil production -- 2,740 bbl/day (2003 est.)
Oil consumption -- 270,100 bbl/day (2003 est.)
Manpower available for military service -- males age 17-49: 1,492,125, females age 17-49: 1,443,916 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service -- males age 17-49: 1,255,902, females age 17-49: 1,212,394 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures % of GDP -- 7.7% (2005 est.)

Iran:
Land -- 1.648 million sq km
Population -- 68,688,433 (July 2006 est.)
GDP -- $569.9 billion (2005 est.)
Public debt -- 28.9% of GDP (2005 est.)
Oil ? production -- 3.979 million bbl/day (2005 est.)
Oil ? consumption -- 1.425 million bbl/day (2003 est.)
Manpower available for military service -- males age 18-49: 18,319,545, females age 18-49: 17,541,037 (2005 est.)
Manpower fit for military service -- males age 18-49: 15,665,725, females age 18-49: 15,005,597 (2005 est.)
Military expenditures % of GDP -- 3.3% (2003 est.)

If you google some info on Arab-Israeli wars you will see that numbers don't matter.

Hezbullah gave them a run for their money in the summer.

You're right, but that's because Israel got careless and Hezbolla got rockets. That was a very poorly organized war.

...bombing an army that plays peek-a-boo in civilian area's is different than fighting Iran. Iran would NEVER be able to set foot on Israeli soil. In war it's technology and intelligence that wins not numbers. Israel has one of thee most, if not the most, advance tanks in the world. Iran has soviet scrap metal.

 

[Aimster]

Hezbollah was not destroyed.

The very last day of fighting they were launching 200 rockets into Israel.

People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons.

The U.S inside Iraq is having a terrible time fighting insurgents with ancient tech. What makes people think Israel is going to do better fighting these same people with better tech?

Israel stopped because they realized they were facing a force that would cost them and they didnt know if they could handle the loss (political bs).

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Hezbollah was not destroyed.

The very last day of fighting they were launching 200 rockets into Israel.

People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons.

The U.S inside Iraq is having a terrible time fighting insurgents with ancient tech. What makes people think Israel is going to do better fighting these same people with better tech?

Israel stopped because they realized they were facing a force that would cost them and they didnt know if they could handle the loss (political bs).

They were launching rockets with no real direction. Israel could have destroyed Hez if they had too. People do not really understand that Israel and the US hold themselves back in the wars they commit due to political reasons. If they are truly threatened the world will see the true might of the US on an enemy and of Israel on an enemy.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

 

[Aimster]

Israel could have destroyed Hezbollah but it would have cost them a thousand+ lives.
They were getting hit hard inside Lebanon. They couldnt advance no matter what they did because their troops were getting hit. If they advanced too soon, they would have lost a lot of men. The only way to advance is to make sure the tank hunter groups are taken out and Israel was finding that task difficult.

Israel was not holding themselves back if you look at all the bombs and missiles they launched on Southern Lebanon. They destroyed Southern Lebanon. What were they holding themselves back from? Nukes?

Hezbollah obviously lost a lot of fighters as well, but Hezbollah's numbers are still high as is Israel's military.

What Israel faced inside Lebanon was a team of Hezbollah fighters equipped with rpgs that could take out their tanks and that could also cause great damaged to their troops. The only thing that kept the Israeli numbers low is that the Hezbollah fighters could not hit their targets. They failed at target practice it looks like.

You can be in the best tank in the world. When a guy is hiding in the woods with an anti-tank weapon pointed at you, if they hit you then chances are 50/50 that you will live. The Israeli tanks are great, and Hezbollah knew this. That is why Iran supplied them with weapons that could penetrate their tanks.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

Did you not look at pictures of southern lebanon?

If you are going to defend Israel and make it sound great at least bring up something else.
Israel pounded the South of Lebanon and demolished all the buildings. Apartment buildings.

If your defense is "Israel told the Lebanese to leave" well then why is it not fair to say "The Israelis knew Hezbollah was going to pound them so they should have left too"?

Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.
& If you honestly think Israel can occupy a country with a population of 70 million people then you are living in a fantasy world. For example, Egypt.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

Did you not look at pictures of southern lebanon?

If you are going to defend Israel and make it sound great at least bring up something else.
Israel pounded the South of Lebanon and demolished all the buildings. Apartment buildings.

If your defense is "Israel told the Lebanese to leave" well then why is it not fair to say "The Israelis knew Hezbollah was going to pound them so they should have left too"?

Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.
& If you honestly think Israel can occupy a country with a population of 70 million people then you are living in a fantasy world. For example, Egypt.

Who said Israel could occupy a country of 70 million? (He actually said Israel WASN'T looking for an invasion of Iran, just bombings). I'm not sure there is any country that can occupy a middle eastern country of that size...

I don't know why you love to put down the Israeli military, but it gets tired. I'm sure you know we get plenty of our technology from them...

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

Did you not look at pictures of southern lebanon?

If you are going to defend Israel and make it sound great at least bring up something else.
Israel pounded the South of Lebanon and demolished all the buildings. Apartment buildings.

If your defense is "Israel told the Lebanese to leave" well then why is it not fair to say "The Israelis knew Hezbollah was going to pound them so they should have left too"?

Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.
& If you honestly think Israel can occupy a country with a population of 70 million people then you are living in a fantasy world. For example, Egypt.

Who said Israel could occupy a country of 70 million? (He actually said Israel WASN'T looking for an invasion of Iran, just bombings). I'm not sure there is any country that can occupy a middle eastern country of that size...

I don't know why you love to put down the Israeli military, but it gets tired. I'm sure you know we get plenty of our technology from them...

hey genius,

show me where I put down the Israeli military.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.

An M1 Abrams tank is better than a Merkava tank at urban warefare? :roll:
Please.

 

[Aimster]

urban warfare means fighting in cities ...

so tell me the advantage a tank has over another tank when fighting an army hiddden in a city.

Please

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Hezbollah was not destroyed.

The very last day of fighting they were launching 200 rockets into Israel.

People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons.

The U.S inside Iraq is having a terrible time fighting insurgents with ancient tech. What makes people think Israel is going to do better fighting these same people with better tech?

Israel stopped because they realized they were facing a force that would cost them and they didnt know if they could handle the loss (political bs).

You do realize that Israel could have wiped the towns off the map .. but they don't TRY to kill innocents like Hezbollah and Islamists do.

 

[Aimster]

Israel just like the U.S could nuke whoever they want.

If Israel or the U.S or any country with air power for that matter wanted to save lives, they wouldn't bomb places filled with civilians.
They do it because nations are selfish. They rather kill a few hundred or thousand+ civilians on the other side than to risk a handful of their soldiers.

No nation that I know of during a time of war is so caring that they go beyond their way to limit civilian deaths. Yes, U.S and Israel try to limit civilian deaths, but they do not go out of their way to stop it. If they get information on the dot that the enemy is at a certain location, they are not going to waste hours trying to calculate the civilian deaths. They are going to send in the bombers to bomb them.

For example the U.S bombed Fallujah. If the U.S wanted to care for civilians they would have invaded rather than bombed. Risked their soldiers lives.

I am only bringing up U.S and Israel because they are the only nations that currently have fought wars where they have had air domination. Any country with air domination would do the exact same thing. Why care about your enemy?

It is easy to kill civilians when you are giving the order behind a desk. Just sign off on it. It is also easy to give the order when your troops are being fired on from an apartment building and the only way to take out the enemy is to bomb it. The only thing that goes on in one's head during a conflict like that is to live. Why risks your lives when you can just call in an airstrike?

remember both sides used weapons that were not guided. Israel used artillery to pound villages. Hezbollah used rockets. Nobody is > than anyone in this battle. They both acted in the same manner.

 

[The Green Bean]

If Israel does attack Iran in any way, it will only start a major war. There are wars going on already in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan (3 of Iran's neighbours) and with the presence of

1. American/British troops
2. Iraqi Insurgents
a. Sunni
b. Shina
3. Alqaeeda
4. Other "terrorist" groups
5. Balochis on the Pakistani border with Iran
6. Tribals on the Pakistani border with Afghanistan
7. Iran (already concerned of Balochis figthing for their "homeland")
8. Pakistan
9. Israel
10. Hezbollah
11. Hamas
12. Fata

With so many different factions involved in some sort of conflict in a relatively small area, it could all go very wrong. Additionally, big brother India is just waiting on an oppurtunity to invade Pakistan once again. China is not too far apart.

An attack by Israel would only be another stupid move by their incompetent rulers.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: Aimster
Hezbollah was not destroyed.

The very last day of fighting they were launching 200 rockets into Israel.

People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons.

The U.S inside Iraq is having a terrible time fighting insurgents with ancient tech. What makes people think Israel is going to do better fighting these same people with better tech?

Israel stopped because they realized they were facing a force that would cost them and they didnt know if they could handle the loss (political bs).

You do realize that Israel could have wiped the towns off the map .. but they don't TRY to kill innocents like Hezbollah and Islamists do.

Did you realize if Israel even tried that, it wouldve had a handful of countries declaring war on it?

 

[Aimster]

Israel did wipe off towns from the map. Muslims lived there. Nobody cared.

.. hey thats the truth.

If they started bombing Christian neighborhoods like they did Muslim neighborhoods, France would be pissed.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel did wipe off towns from the map. Muslims lived there. Nobody cared.

.. hey thats the truth.

If they started bombing Christian neighborhoods like they did Muslim neighborhoods, France would be pissed.

Don't you think the whole muslims world was "pissed"? Too bad most of them are figthing their own wars right now.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

Did you not look at pictures of southern lebanon?

If you are going to defend Israel and make it sound great at least bring up something else.
Israel pounded the South of Lebanon and demolished all the buildings. Apartment buildings.

If your defense is "Israel told the Lebanese to leave" well then why is it not fair to say "The Israelis knew Hezbollah was going to pound them so they should have left too"?

Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.
& If you honestly think Israel can occupy a country with a population of 70 million people then you are living in a fantasy world. For example, Egypt.

Who said Israel could occupy a country of 70 million? (He actually said Israel WASN'T looking for an invasion of Iran, just bombings). I'm not sure there is any country that can occupy a middle eastern country of that size...

I don't know why you love to put down the Israeli military, but it gets tired. I'm sure you know we get plenty of our technology from them...

hey genius,

show me where I put down the Israeli military.

Even though there is some clear bias here on your part about the Israeli military, I think a better way of putting it would be that you're underestimating the Israeli military's true strength. I think it's very narrow minded to say that Israel cannot strike Iran if they wanted to. I wouldn't put anything past Israel, they are very determined.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
If Israel does attack Iran in any way, it will only start a major war. There are wars going on already in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan (3 of Iran's neighbours) and with the presence of

1. American/British troops
2. Iraqi Insurgents
a. Sunni
b. Shina
3. Alqaeeda
4. Other "terrorist" groups
5. Balochis on the Pakistani border with Iran
6. Tribals on the Pakistani border with Afghanistan
7. Iran (already concerned of Balochis figthing for their "homeland")
8. Pakistan
9. Israel
10. Hezbollah
11. Hamas
12. Fata

With so many different factions involved in some sort of conflict in a relatively small area, it could all go very wrong. Additionally, big brother India is just waiting on an oppurtunity to invade Pakistan once again. China is not too far apart.

An attack by Israel would only be another stupid move by their incompetent rulers.

Israel has managed to survive 50 years surrounded by enemies which have significantly larger populations and have been around much longer than they had been, and have even managed to add land to their territories, all while keeping the country stable amidst the terrorist attacks and Palestinian problems. I would hardly call that incompetent.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
"People keep thinking Israel is a great military power that can go up against these insurgent groups, especially when these groups are armed with advanced weapons."

Hezbullah was launching rockets into civilian areas because that all they can use those rockets against. If Israel and the hezbullah would play by the same rules there would be no hezbullah.

...but just as a side note the Israeli's are the best at urban warfare. They have very few civilian casualties in regard to the circumstances.

...of course all this is irrelevant because Israel is not planning to have urban warefare with Iran they just want to drop bombs on specific sites. If that happens all Iran can do cry about it.

Did you not look at pictures of southern lebanon?

If you are going to defend Israel and make it sound great at least bring up something else.
Israel pounded the South of Lebanon and demolished all the buildings. Apartment buildings.

If your defense is "Israel told the Lebanese to leave" well then why is it not fair to say "The Israelis knew Hezbollah was going to pound them so they should have left too"?

Your claim that Israel is the best in urban warefare is based on Israel occupying Palestinians with weapons that suck when it comes to Israeli soldiers in their armored cars.
The United States is the best.
& If you honestly think Israel can occupy a country with a population of 70 million people then you are living in a fantasy world. For example, Egypt.

Who said Israel could occupy a country of 70 million? (He actually said Israel WASN'T looking for an invasion of Iran, just bombings). I'm not sure there is any country that can occupy a middle eastern country of that size...

I don't know why you love to put down the Israeli military, but it gets tired. I'm sure you know we get plenty of our technology from them...

hey genius,

show me where I put down the Israeli military.

Even though there is some clear bias here on your part about the Israeli military, I think a better way of putting it would be that you're underestimating the Israeli military's true strength. I think it's very narrow minded to say that Israel cannot strike Iran if they wanted to. I wouldn't put anything past Israel, they are very determined.

Uhm.. I clearly pointed out how they cannot strike Iran without the help of the U.S.

You are living in this world called la-la land.
China is determined to go to the moon. Can China go to the moon tomorrow?

Israel's aircraft cannot magically fly themselves to Iran and back. What part of a limitation of fuel do you not understand? What part of their aircraft are picked up by radar do you not understand?

What bias am I displaying? I am pointing out facts and that makes me biased? If you got facts or opinions on how Israel can strike Iran which is way further than their aircraft allow then present them. Blabbering to me about how you think I am wrong and biased without sharing one piece of information is nothing more than a garbage post.

The facts are clear. Israel must land inside Iraq or get permission from the U.S to refuel over Iraq. Otherwise the attack is not possible. Since the U.S is playing a part in the attack, the U.S might as well attack Iran with stealth aircraft.

Israel's air force is comparable to many nations.
No nation's air force is comparable to the U.S.

However to be fair,

I think the best answer will come from Eaglekeeper. He has flown F-15s. He would know more than me or you.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
If Israel does attack Iran in any way, it will only start a major war.

I expect it will happen regardless of our action or not. If we sit back and do nothing, the Muslim world may succeed at fulfilling its vow to kill us. If we attack, we risk open war. With those narrow options, I find striking is better than being stuck.

Granted, maybe if I put as much good faith in the chants of ?death to America?, as you have, I could be content in the believe that they won?t fulfill their sworn vows.

 

[Aimster]

death to america doesnt mean they are going to kill us or want to kill us.

the iranian regime came into power because of american influence and political involvement in their business. That is where the "death to america" slogan came from.

America was controlling Iran in the 1970s via Shah. Iran was the Israel of the 60s and 70s.

When a Foxnews reporter went to Iran she left the airport and when she went out the first thing she saw was a group of women yelling anti American slogans. She just happened to be in the middle of a govt. organized protest. The women found out she was from America. They were kind to her and treated her with respect. They told her exactly what I pointed above.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel did wipe off towns from the map. Muslims lived there. Nobody cared.

.. hey thats the truth.

Your "truth" ignores whether there were any civilians in towns, why buildings were bombed, and whether Hezbollah had bases of operation there, or decided to take a stand in those towns.

I recall articles talking about how civilians left their home open for Hezbollah fighters to go as they needed after they (civilians) abandonded the area. In fact, people acknowledged that it was understood/implied that Hezbollah will uset their homes.

So, if Hezbollah mounted resistance in some towns, do you really think that there wouldn't have been widespread damage? Do you really think that Hezbollah was trying to preserve structures?
There were cases where they hit Israeli troops in buildings by RPGs or Anti-Tank missiles. This wasn't like the Jennin Pallywood propaganda, where tank shells miraculously left only scratches on buildings -- buildings collapsed, or were essentially destroyed.

"Wiped off the map" makes it sound like WW2-style aerial bombings, which would've been cheaper and more effective.

 

[lotus503]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel doesnt have the means or the weapons to attack Iran.

A) their range is too far (Totally false)
B) their aircraft are not stealth (Dont need aircraft to launch Ballistic missles)
C) they do not have enough manpower to attack all of the sites unless they decide to send in a major wave which would be easily picked up.

The U.S is going to attack Iran with stealth aircraft and cruise missiles.
Iran cannot do a thing to stop those.

http://www.cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/israel.htm

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: S0Lstice

Originally posted by: Aimster
Israel doesnt have the means or the weapons to attack Iran.

A) their range is too far (Totally false)
B) their aircraft are not stealth (Dont need aircraft to launch Ballistic missles)
C) they do not have enough manpower to attack all of the sites unless they decide to send in a major wave which would be easily picked up.

The U.S is going to attack Iran with stealth aircraft and cruise missiles.
Iran cannot do a thing to stop those.

http://www.cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/israel.htm

Ive posted that.

The only thing I see are ballistic missiles and I do not believe ballistic missiles can pinpoint a building from 1,000 miles away and hit them on the dot.

but like I mentioned, Iran claims their ballistic missiles can take out Israel's nuclear reactor so I assume Israel's can as well.

I find that to be a bunch of BS, but maybe I am not up-to-date on my ballistic missile knowledge.