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n yusef

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Riceninja
thinking that all black men like big chicks is racist.

Well, they usually like ugly, fat chicks.

:roll: Because you're the authority on black men.

There are some black men who like large women, just like there are white men who like large women, and women who like large men, and women who like large women, and men who like men, etc.

First, no one is attracted to ugly people. Attraction is subjective; if you are attracted to someone then she isn't ugly. Second, "usually" implies a majority; the majority of black men do not like "fat" women. "Thick" or "curvy" women, with thin waists and large behinds are generally preferred. These women are not "fat," they are normal sized.

I use to go to a BBW club in LA called Moxie, it was for big/biiiiiig girls. The majority of men in there were black. I'm not saying most black men like big girls, but they were the the majority at that club, because on any given Saturday night there the Black men out numbered white/other men by 5-1 if not more. And the girls at Moxie were not thick (for the most part) they were ginormous. I was typically one of very white few white boys in there lol. Those were the days.

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Riceninja
thinking that all black men like big chicks is racist.

Well, they usually like ugly, fat chicks.

:roll: Because you're the authority on black men.

There are some black men who like large women, just like there are white men who like large women, and women who like large men, and women who like large women, and men who like men, etc.

First, no one is attracted to ugly people. Attraction is subjective; if you are attracted to someone then she isn't ugly. Second, "usually" implies a majority; the majority of black men do not like "fat" women. "Thick" or "curvy" women, with thin waists and large behinds are generally preferred. These women are not "fat," they are normal sized.

I use to go to a BBW club in LA called Moxie, it was for big/biiiiiig girls. The majority of men in there were black. I'm not saying most black men like big girls, but they were the the majority at that club, because on any given Saturday night there the Black men out numbered white/other men by 5-1 if not more. And the girls at Moxie were not thick (for the most part) they were ginormous. I was typically one of very white few white boys in there lol. Those were the days.

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

How does this sound:
Most fat chicks are swooned by black men.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Plus, after age 40, you have a better chance of being struck by lightening than getting married...

Which do you think was more frightening, marrying Red or getting struck by lightening ? lol!

I was 48 1/2 when we married.
 

judasmachine

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i believe biologically you have a point. i couldn't deal with the mother in law for a week every month.
 

DayLaPaul

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Originally posted by: n yusef
First, how many black men do you know? You really aren't an authority on black male sexuality. It's funyny that you point out stereotypes of hypersexual black men in a thread where many men who I assume are white complained about women's relative ease with which she can have sex. These white men are not having as much sex as they would like. Maybe ATOT has high standards, or maybe the stereotype of hypersexual black men is really a stereotype of men.

Then you try to tell me that I'm being ironic--you mean hypocritical--by disagreeing with your stereotype with a generalization. First, you cannot make cultural analysis without generalizing, which is different from stereotyping because it's based on evidence (unlike your claim that black men will fuck anything). Second, I acknowledged the individuality of black male sexuality. Black men are not a monolithic group; we do not all think the same way and we have different standards of beauty. In fact, the diversity of black male sexuality was my main point. In this thread, there have been numerous stereotypes about black men, made by presumably white guys who obviously haven't met that many black people.

That said, the vast majority of heterosexual black men I know like women with thin waists and fat asses. The ideal for this body type is Beyonce; she is definitely not fat.

Just because a few white guys on the internet think that black men love fat white women does not mean that this phenomenon is common, and it certainly does not imply a majority preference.

I think I know more about black men than you do, considering I happen to be one.

I didn't really follow the point that you were trying to make in that first paragraph, but this conversation isn't about my credentials. You don't need a Ph.d in Afro-American studies to pick up on stereotypes that you have witnessed with your own eyes and ears.

Obviously, it's not a very flattering stereotype, so of course you, as a black male, are expected to react the way that you are reacting right now -- with outrage and indignation. Is it a fair stereotype? Perhaps not, but just because you object to it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I didn't create it, my friends didn't create it and I never even explicitly stated that I agreed with it, but yet here we are. It's out there.

Sure, every black guy thinks Beyonce is the pinnacle of hotness. They all crave thin waists and fat asses. Nobody is saying that if you line up Beyonce next to a fat chick, black guys will choose the fat chick. But the stereotype is that these black men would gladly settle for thick thighs and a beer gut as long it it still includes that juicy fat ass. Does this make them any different than men of other races? Only in so much that other men don't have that stereotype associated with them.

In the end, it doesn't really matter how much you know about black men or even that you are a black man yourself, you can't change the stereotype. I mean I guess you can try to, which I suppose is what you're trying to do in your post, but at the end of the day, people will still believe what they believe (right or wrong, ignorant or not).
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: TheChort
How does this sound:
Most fat chicks are swooned by black men.

I don't know about that either. I don't have any data, but I bet the vast majority of fat white women date white guys.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: n yusef
because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly)

As long as we're arguing symantics, what's wrong with calling fat, ugly?
 

QueBert

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Riceninja
thinking that all black men like big chicks is racist.

Well, they usually like ugly, fat chicks.

:roll: Because you're the authority on black men.

There are some black men who like large women, just like there are white men who like large women, and women who like large men, and women who like large women, and men who like men, etc.

First, no one is attracted to ugly people. Attraction is subjective; if you are attracted to someone then she isn't ugly. Second, "usually" implies a majority; the majority of black men do not like "fat" women. "Thick" or "curvy" women, with thin waists and large behinds are generally preferred. These women are not "fat," they are normal sized.

I use to go to a BBW club in LA called Moxie, it was for big/biiiiiig girls. The majority of men in there were black. I'm not saying most black men like big girls, but they were the the majority at that club, because on any given Saturday night there the Black men out numbered white/other men by 5-1 if not more. And the girls at Moxie were not thick (for the most part) they were ginormous. I was typically one of very white few white boys in there lol. Those were the days.

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

it's a preference, only an idiot would say a big woman is ugly simply because she's big. I will say this, the brothers I know could for the most part land almost any girl they wanted. White dues DO NOT have higher standards of beauty, they just have this retarded mindset that "skinny as hell always = beautiful" I have seen plenty of White dudes with chicks that looks like anorexic crackheads. When a chicks ribs is showing it's not even close to cute. And these same fools will go "OMG LOOK AT THAT FAT CHICK, SO NASTY!" Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. I think the stereotype that men of color like "ugly fat chicks" is far from the truth. Some of the most most beautiful females I've ever met would be considered "fat" to the pretend to be rich virgin idiots on here. Does a Brother with a chic k who's a size 10 like fat girls? According to ATOTers a size 10 female would be ginormous and "unfuckable even if I was 10 times drunk"

I think Brothers I know who like big girls aren't ashamed of it like the white dudes who act like it's so horrible, but still get with them on the under. And maybe there's no truth to it but the black dudes I know have claimed skinny chicks can't handle their massive Mandingo sized Penises. Now that might just be them shit talking but I dunno lol.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Originally posted by: n yusef
First, how many black men do you know? You really aren't an authority on black male sexuality. It's funyny that you point out stereotypes of hypersexual black men in a thread where many men who I assume are white complained about women's relative ease with which she can have sex. These white men are not having as much sex as they would like. Maybe ATOT has high standards, or maybe the stereotype of hypersexual black men is really a stereotype of men.

Then you try to tell me that I'm being ironic--you mean hypocritical--by disagreeing with your stereotype with a generalization. First, you cannot make cultural analysis without generalizing, which is different from stereotyping because it's based on evidence (unlike your claim that black men will fuck anything). Second, I acknowledged the individuality of black male sexuality. Black men are not a monolithic group; we do not all think the same way and we have different standards of beauty. In fact, the diversity of black male sexuality was my main point. In this thread, there have been numerous stereotypes about black men, made by presumably white guys who obviously haven't met that many black people.

That said, the vast majority of heterosexual black men I know like women with thin waists and fat asses. The ideal for this body type is Beyonce; she is definitely not fat.

Just because a few white guys on the internet think that black men love fat white women does not mean that this phenomenon is common, and it certainly does not imply a majority preference.

I think I know more about black men than you do, considering I happen to be one.

I didn't really follow the point that you were trying to make in that first paragraph, but this conversation isn't about my credentials. You don't need a Ph.d in Afro-American studies to pick up on stereotypes that you have witnessed with your own eyes and ears.

Obviously, it's not a very flattering stereotype, so of course you, as a black male, are expected to react the way that you are reacting right now -- with outrage and indignation. Is it a fair stereotype? Perhaps not, but just because you object to it, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I didn't create it, my friends didn't create it and I never even explicitly stated that I agreed with it, but yet here we are. It's out there.

Sure, every black guy thinks Beyonce is the pinnacle of hotness. They all crave thin waists and fat asses. Nobody is saying that if you line up Beyonce next to a fat chick, black guys will choose the fat chick. But the stereotype is that these black men would gladly settle for thick thighs and a beer gut as long it it still includes that juicy fat ass. Does this make them any different than men of other races? Only in so much that other men don't have that stereotype associated with them.

In the end, it doesn't really matter how much you know about black men or even that you are a black man yourself, you can't change the stereotype. I mean I guess you can try to, which I suppose is what you're trying to do in your post, but at the end of the day, people will still believe what they believe (right or wrong, ignorant or not).

What are you trying to say here.. that SOME black men are smart enough to understand that if they widen their selection criteria of women that they'll probably have more chances to actually have sex ? Sounds pretty darn adaptive and smart to me.
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: TheChort
How does this sound:
Most fat chicks are swooned by black men.

I don't know about that either. I don't have any data, but I bet the vast majority of fat white women date white guys.

Fat white women are disproportionately hit on by more black men than white men.

It doesn't sound fun any more...
 

badkarma1399

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
let's see now according to many ATOTérs


Women's love of high fashion, expensive shoes and handbags proves what idiots they are... their love of $400 video cards does not. A girl's night out is regarded as boring,boring boring, dressing as Darth Vadar to join your friends outside the movie theater is the utmost in chic.

women need to be young but if they're under 21 all they're good for is sex, not relationship material. if they're older, divorced or have a kid they're damaged goods who are also only good for sex.

they need to be busty.. but they better be natural
they have to have pretty faces and look polished but makeup is the horrors
they need to be fit..but women who body build are teh yuck
they need to be sexually open and willing.. if she won't do anal dump teh biatch but it's also best if she's a sexually open, knowing experienced virgin.

She better have a killer career... but when babies come along be willing to sit home baking cookies doing the soccer mom thing, after all what kind of whore would rather dump my baby in daycare just so she can be selfish and work? My children are sacred and deserve the very best parental care.

If we get a divorce she better not try to break the prenup, my stuff is my stuff, all she's done is sit home on her gold digging arse, she better get a babysitter and get her ass back to work.


Why on earth would you think men have it easier than women?


Btw ,before anybody gets crazy, most of what I'm pointing out here is in jest, both gender face problems

Jest? BS. We all know that your being serious. And you should be, because its all true. Not just for ATOT, but for all men.

But men still have it harder. You think its hard having all those qualities? Try finding a women with all those qualities. Damn near impossible!
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: badkarma1399

Jest? BS. We all know that your being serious. And you should be, because its all true. Not just for ATOT, but for all men.

But men still have it harder. You think its hard having all those qualities? Try finding a women with all those qualities. Damn near impossible!

of course it is, that's why so many of you come here, ATOT, the all you can eat sausage
fest :laugh:
 

n yusef

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Riceninja
thinking that all black men like big chicks is racist.

Well, they usually like ugly, fat chicks.

:roll: Because you're the authority on black men.

There are some black men who like large women, just like there are white men who like large women, and women who like large men, and women who like large women, and men who like men, etc.

First, no one is attracted to ugly people. Attraction is subjective; if you are attracted to someone then she isn't ugly. Second, "usually" implies a majority; the majority of black men do not like "fat" women. "Thick" or "curvy" women, with thin waists and large behinds are generally preferred. These women are not "fat," they are normal sized.

I use to go to a BBW club in LA called Moxie, it was for big/biiiiiig girls. The majority of men in there were black. I'm not saying most black men like big girls, but they were the the majority at that club, because on any given Saturday night there the Black men out numbered white/other men by 5-1 if not more. And the girls at Moxie were not thick (for the most part) they were ginormous. I was typically one of very white few white boys in there lol. Those were the days.

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

it's a preference, only an idiot would say a big woman is ugly simply because she's big. I will say this, the brothers I know could for the most part land almost any girl they wanted. White dues DO NOT have higher standards of beauty, they just have this retarded mindset that "skinny as hell always = beautiful" I have seen plenty of White dudes with chicks that looks like anorexic crackheads. When a chicks ribs is showing it's not even close to cute. And these same fools will go "OMG LOOK AT THAT FAT CHICK, SO NASTY!" Beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. I think the stereotype that men of color like "ugly fat chicks" is far from the truth. Some of the most most beautiful females I've ever met would be considered "fat" to the pretend to be rich virgin idiots on here. Does a Brother with a chic k who's a size 10 like fat girls? According to ATOTers a size 10 female would be ginormous and "unfuckable even if I was 10 times drunk"

I think Brothers I know who like big girls aren't ashamed of it like the white dudes who act like it's so horrible, but still get with them on the under. And maybe there's no truth to it but the black dudes I know have claimed skinny chicks can't handle their massive Mandingo sized Penises. Now that might just be them shit talking but I dunno lol.

:laugh::thumbsup:
 

A Casual Fitz

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Alimony, child support, harder to be a prostitute, girls don't do things for us because we're sexy, girls don't approach us for sex or dates in general...should I keep going?
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: n yusef

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

So black men like hot fat chicks? :laugh:
 

BoberFett

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QueBert

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: n yusef

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

So black men like hot fat chicks? :laugh:

fat and ugly are in no way related, just like skinny and attractive are in no way related.
 

Pliablemoose

Lifer
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: n yusef

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

So black men like hot fat chicks? :laugh:

fat and ugly are in no way related, just like skinny and attractive are in no way related.

I beg to differ, one of my criteria for a woman to be considered attractive is to not be fat.

I've seen fat girls with pretty faces, but I do not consider them attractive.

 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: n yusef

I totally recognize that a lot of black guys are into big girls. I objected to the language that we "usually like fat, ugly chicks," because that's really derogatory to fat women (calling them ugly) and black men (claiming that their standards of beauty are inferior to those of white men).

So black men like hot fat chicks? :laugh:

fat and ugly are in no way related, just like skinny and attractive are in no way related.

 
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