Itanium's MASSIVE Heat Sink

Viditor

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You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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THUGSROOK

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stupid chip makers really think were gonna buy 200w cpus?

they better think again.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
stupid chip makers really think were gonna buy 200w cpus?

they better think again.
No... I'm absolutely sure that Intel does not think you (or anyone else on these forums) will personally be purchasing a Montecito.

 

MegaWorks

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thats just stupid!!, this thing is huge!!!. I like the heatsink, imaging installing one of these on the XPs or P4s.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Viditor
You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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aren't prescots running about 120 watt or so? Thats not a whole lot more power for a chip 4 times the size and with 1.7 billion transistors, compared to 200million or so on prescot.
 

Viditor

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aren't prescots running about 120 watt or so? Thats not a whole lot more power for a chip 4 times the size and with 1.7 billion transistors, compared to 200million or so on prescot.

Different cores and clockspeeds...
The biggest issue here is fitting the Montecito into the server designs...can you imagine trying to design a 2U server with THESE beasties in them?
 

Sonic587

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Can you imagine that in a normal upright system? It'd tear your motherboard apart and destroy your graphics card.
 

Dman877

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These chips are probably destined for 20+ cpu systems which will reside in heavily air conditioned rooms and have 600 or so cfm blowing over the cpu heatsinks. 200 watts isn't that bad for a high end server chip. These aren't 2U server chips either btw.
 

Geomagick

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Looks interesting, certainly something that we might see in a few years time on lowly desktop parts.
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: Sonic587
Can you imagine that in a normal upright system? It'd tear your motherboard apart and destroy your graphics card.

...which is why it appears the design of the heatsink allows it to screw into the motherboard rather than using clip retension mechanisms.
 

IntelUser2000

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NO, Montecito does not dissipate 200W, or even near it. It will dissipate at most 100W. Link: http://news.zdnet.com/2102-9584_22-5281908.html
"Overall, Montecito will consume about 20 percent less power than current Itanium 2 chips, Waxman said. "

By the way, the current highest Itanium has 130W max power, while Montecito will have 100. 100W at +2GHz. Link: http://www.realworldtech.com/p...WT100404214638&p=7

That stupid Inquirer article is like saying you have 200W CPU since the heatsink requires 200W.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Viditor
You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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aren't prescots running about 120 watt or so? Thats not a whole lot more power for a chip 4 times the size and with 1.7 billion transistors, compared to 200million or so on prescot.

the p4 3.8ghz can load at 220W. just look at anandtech's review.
 

Dustswirl

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I guess this is a dual chip heatsink not a single one, no cpu will rest under that groove in the middle. It could be made for two cpus side by side where their center levels at the screw holes.
 

pm

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I work on the design of the future member of the Itanium product family currently codenamed Montecito. Our heatsinks are smaller than the one that I use on my Pentium 4 (Northwood). We certainly don't have anything remotely close to that pictured on the Inquirer.

As the member named IntelUser2000 pointed out, Montecito's power requirements are actually less than many of the current Itanium products.
 

AristoV300

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Originally posted by: Viditor
You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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and so comes the name Itanic...
 

LTC8K6

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the p4 3.8ghz can load at 220W. just look at anandtech's review.

Hey Mik3y, when are you going to stop confusing total system power with CPU power? Or would that crimp your Intel bashing?
 

pm

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Originally posted by: AristoV300
Originally posted by: Viditor
You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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and so comes the name Itanic...

Yes, the term "Itanic" does come from The Inquirer. They coined it over 4 years ago - referring of course to the Titanic, a ship that sank on it's maiden voyage. But it's now been 4 years and 4 product launches later and Itanium certainly hasn't sunk. It's making slow and steady progress in the high-end RISC market.

Details on Montecito should start to appear in the press in the next few months. I'll be presenting a paper on an aspect of it at the International Solid State Circuits Conference in San Francisco in a few months.
 

imported_SLIM

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Viditor
You have GOT to see this thing...it's HUGE!
Also, please note the copper tubing and wires connected to it...it's a TEC (Thermal Electric Conductor) according to the guys at the Inquirer. They are saying that Montecito will generate 150-200W!!!!

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Pictures

aren't prescots running about 120 watt or so? Thats not a whole lot more power for a chip 4 times the size and with 1.7 billion transistors, compared to 200million or so on prescot.

the p4 3.8ghz can load at 220W. just look at anandtech's review.

That's system power draw at the wall socket, not the cpu only. It is impressive to look at the delta between idle and load (about 108 watts if I'm remembering correctly). That change in consumption is a better indicator of cpu power thirst and is about equal to the total system power consumption of the 90nm A64 at LOAD.

Back on subject, two points:
1) there is no scale to the pictures of the heatsink making it impossible to guess its actual size
2) the 100-130W TDP is not a maximum power consumption and Intel is well known for not actually giving the maximum power consumption.
 

Thermalrock

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yea its total system power. and the 3500+ winchester is freaking awesome 114W whole sytem under load. im so gonna buy that cpu.
 

LTC8K6

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I'm curious.....did you refuse to buy AMD chips when they used more power, were hotter and harder to cool than Intel's chips?
 

pm

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Originally posted by: SLIM
Back on subject, two points:
1) there is no scale to the pictures of the heatsink making it impossible to guess its actual size
2) the 100-130W TDP is not a maximum power consumption and Intel is well known for not actually giving the maximum power consumption.

1. Whatever it's scale it's not like anything that I have seen anywhere in our test setups.
2. I'm not sure that I agree exactly with this statement, but regardless, it will be the case of Montecito due to the introduction of Foxton technology. You can Google for the limited details that have been released, but there's a mention of it in this Inquirer article that's about 2 months old:

"This 1.72 billion transistor chip may seem like it will suck power like water, especially since it uses Intel's 90nm process. Because of the new Foxton technology, it actually only consumes 100w, 30w less than it's predecessor."

and later:

"Foxton sets the voltage to the minimum level needed to do the desired computing task. If voltage draw or temperature go too high, it will ratchet things down to get to the desired 100w level. It can also do this locally to parts of the chip, not necessarily globally."
 
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