It's a two way street

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Topic Title: It's a two way street

It's my way or the highway.
AnandTech Fake Moderator

Seems this way

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Pulsar

Originally posted by: sandorski
There have been times when other Mods were called into threads, but it wasn't to help a Mod Win an argument, it was because an infraction had occurred and a Mod posting as a Member in a Thread does not Mod in the same thread.

We could go back to anonymous Mods, so no one ever knows who may or may not be Mods. Or we can just get used to knowing and not bring up "Mod" as a sideswipe.

Yeah, but look at crap like this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2333046&enterthread=y

Vicious, continual personal attacks, with a second mod in the thread not saying boo about it. Then it continues in PFI, which for most users ends up being a bannable offense.

Now what other mod is going to step up and "fix" that issue?

The rules need to be crystal clear on what is bannable and what is not.

No swearing (I'd love to see this one back in play).
No violence.
No sexism.
No questioning mods.

Then the mods have to be held to a higher standard. Sorry, but when they're allowed to jump into the cesspool (as shown by the link) there's just no way impartial and 'fair' moderation is going to happen.

Says you. FearEverything just likes to whine about things. That's pretty standard in P&N, don't like it, don't venture there.

perhaps. but Fear does bring up a good point. had that been anyone else they would have been locked and vacationed.

It wouldnt be a "its up to derek to decide" wich is going to lead to nothign if he even gets the time to look at it. the person would be smacked down hard.

I don't mind calling someone a ASS or ANUS (wich one gets a ban and one seems to be ok) if they deserve it. i know i do at times. But that went a little overboard. i just chalked it up to Perky haveing a bad day and tried to talk to him like an adult until he eventually calmed down.

 

[LunarRay]

If I referred to someone using the term "Ass" I'd mean they, to me, were being like a donkey. Hard headed and stubborn. If I referred to someone as a donkey I'd mean they were carrying a heavy load. If I read someone else using the term 'Ass' or 'donkey' that is what I'd assume they meant.
The other term used, "Anus", to me defines a place from which waste exits the body. If I referred to someone using that term or read someone else doing the same I'd infer they, in a forum setting, were opining that the person was a producer of waste and beyond that soiling the forum and all who step into it.

So, I don't know that 'Ass' is pejorative ( disparaging or belittling ) or 'anus' is either from a point of view if it is true and obvious.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: ekrub

Originally posted by: Pulsar
Then the mods have to be held to a higher standard. Sorry, but when they're allowed to jump into the cesspool (as shown by the link) there's just no way impartial and 'fair' moderation is going to happen.

Exactly, if a person has the title "moderator" beneath his name, he should be held to higher standards. People see a mod acting like perknose does and assume they can act like that and chances are they will take it further.

No.

this

So how do you solve the problem if normal users get baned for breaking the rules when mods have absolutely no reason to obey them and continue to break them, running willy nilly?

Problem: Infraction
Result: if member, then ban; else do nothing?

Lunaray explains what happens quite well. I'd like to see examples of non-Mod Users getting Banned for these behaviours the Mod-Users are engaged in.

Unfortunately, I'm not worth it/you have none.

lol, you have no clue.... truly, you have no clue. There have many instances of such. The most recent was the bannations by a Mod because someone described the actions of another moderator in a way that they took offense to, even though there was plenty of evidence to allow such an opinion/post by the person who was then banned. (yes, I'm being vague but anyone paying attention should know the situation).

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: ekrub

Originally posted by: Pulsar
Then the mods have to be held to a higher standard. Sorry, but when they're allowed to jump into the cesspool (as shown by the link) there's just no way impartial and 'fair' moderation is going to happen.

Exactly, if a person has the title "moderator" beneath his name, he should be held to higher standards. People see a mod acting like perknose does and assume they can act like that and chances are they will take it further.

No.

this

So how do you solve the problem if normal users get baned for breaking the rules when mods have absolutely no reason to obey them and continue to break them, running willy nilly?

Problem: Infraction
Result: if member, then ban; else do nothing?

Lunaray explains what happens quite well. I'd like to see examples of non-Mod Users getting Banned for these behaviours the Mod-Users are engaged in.

Unfortunately, I'm not worth it/you have none.

lol, you have no clue.... truly, you have no clue. There have many instances of such. The most recent was the bannations by a Mod because someone described the actions of another moderator in a way that they took offense to, even though there was plenty of evidence to allow such an opinion/post by the person who was then banned. (yes, I'm being vague but anyone paying attention should know the situation).

Well, from your cryptic post I probably don't have a clear enough picture to opine but in an oblique way I think I will because you refer, I think, to an injustice which to you is not only obvious but was not an offense at all by the someone banned.

IF a Mod posting as a member posts a reply/quote in which the Mod/member's post contained wording directed to another member and it was felt a rule violation occurred, the process to be followed per the rules would be for the offended party or anyone aware of this action to post a PM to the Moderators or Email (I think it reads). It is then up to the 'duty Mod' to take what they felt was appropriate action. Now, assume the 'duty Mod' declined to take any action because in his/her discretion no violation occurred. There is available an appeal of the ruling by the 'duty Mod' by PMing the Moderators or Email explaining the issue at which point Mod or Mods not involved would take the decision to sustain the 'Duty Mod' or overrule him/her. That then ends the issue regarding the posting by the Mod/member.
If as a result of the aforementioned decision process member(s) become embittered and frustrated and feel they must vent and they do so in the open forum in a manner which violates the rules another and separate situation has occurred. Assuming it is 'calling out a mod' violation. That is clearly a violation even if the words used inoffensive. We don't have the right to argue the actions taken.
It may be as clear and obvious as you state but does that waive the rules? Are we empowered to argue the right or wrong of the Moderation decisions?
Membership in this forum does not convey rights beyond those subjected to the rules of participation.
I know you'll not agree and expect what you determine is fair ought to be the rule. In this forum fair is what is determined by folks other than you and I. The Mods try to be fair but they are human with all the human qualities you and I both have.

 

[Red Dawn]

Courtesy of the New Adventures of Wally


Sittin on the tubes not lookin at boobs.
Flippin through da pages haven't posted in ages
Cuz I'm banned.
Banned like sand in candy land. Fool.

Called a mod whore, not postin no more
but I'm too lame for leavin, just sittin here grievin
Cuz I'm banned.

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh woe is me! Oh woe is me!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh here I be! I say you know me!
I'm banned!

Things look bleak, I'm out for two more weeks
This sucks so bad, those mods make me so bad
Now I'm banned.
Banned like a tear gland in baseball land. No cryin!

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh set me free! Oh set me free!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh here I be! Don't ignore me!
I'm just banned!

I never hit no bitches! Or give them stitches!
But it's violence implied, now my postin's denied
Cuz I'm banned.
Banned like a backhand to some ho's lymph gland. What's a joke?

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh don't leave me! Oh don't leave me!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh don't you see? I never hurt nobody...
Now I'm banned!

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Courtesy of the New Adventures of Wally


Sittin on the tubes not lookin at boobs.
Flippin through da pages haven't posted in ages
Cuz I'm banned.
Banned like sand in candy land. Fool.

Called a mod whore, not postin no more
but I'm too lame for leavin, just sittin here grievin
Cuz I'm banned.

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh woe is me! Oh woe is me!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh here I be! I say you know me!
I'm banned!

Things look bleak, I'm out for two more weeks
This sucks so bad, those mods make me so bad
Now I'm banned.
Banned like a tear gland in baseball land. No cryin!

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh set me free! Oh set me free!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh here I be! Don't ignore me!
I'm just banned!

I never hit no bitches! Or give them stitches!
But it's violence implied, now my postin's denied
Cuz I'm banned.
Banned like a backhand to some ho's lymph gland. What's a joke?

A to the T to the O to the T
Oh don't leave me! Oh don't leave me!
I say A to the T to the O to the T
Oh don't you see? I never hurt nobody...
Now I'm banned!

i thought we couldn't post things that joked about violence towards women?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Posting. Posting for fun
Posting like your website is number one,
but I'm feeling, like you don't understand me
When I post about showers and pee pee

Culture. Changed. Don't know about that
All I know is you moderate wack,
Banning. My face from you place
Like The Dog, My posts are like Bear mace.

Posting for lulz, posting for lulz
I post for lulz, while you busting skullz
Posting for lulz, posting for lulz
I post for lulz while you send me Dev nullz

Quoting a post, it's just a smilie
You counteract like I'm fucking your child, heh!
Get called out, you moderate
And wonder why, you bitches we hates

Posting for lulz, posting for lulz
I post for lulz, while you busting skullz
Posting for lulz, posting for lulz
I post for lulz while you send me Dev nullz

Anandtec. I post on your website
No more because you don't have the foresight
and ban people, for talking shit
Like you never did it.

 

[Nik]

You forgot the last line to that, DBZ. :evil:

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Nik
You forgot the last line to that, DBZ. :evil:

Shut it! :laugh:

 

[Pulsar]

This type of crap (see above couple posts) is exactly what folks are talking about.

Less than a week ago, I was threatened with a ban for 'neffing' in a pfi post that had been moved here. I've been using the site for more than 10 years, I have a single bad 'note' in my file because I got nasty with someone a while back, and I get threatened.

Now we've got folks neffing in a post started in PFI in a thread that we know has mods reading it, and not a f'ing peep about it.

Consistency is the single most important rule in raising children and moderating boards, and I'm not seeing it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Pulsar
This type of crap (see above couple posts) is exactly what folks are talking about.

Less than a week ago, I was threatened with a ban for 'neffing' in a pfi post that had been moved here. I've been using the site for more than 10 years, I have a single bad 'note' in my file because I got nasty with someone a while back, and I get threatened.

Now we've got folks neffing in a post started in PFI in a thread that we know has mods reading it, and not a f'ing peep about it.

Consistency is the single most important rule in raising children and moderating boards, and I'm not seeing it.

Excuse me, those posts that you call neffs were about the Moderating so they were on topic even if they were light hearted.

BTW I don't see the correlation between raising children and moderating forums.

 

[Pulsar]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Pulsar
This type of crap (see above couple posts) is exactly what folks are talking about.

Less than a week ago, I was threatened with a ban for 'neffing' in a pfi post that had been moved here. I've been using the site for more than 10 years, I have a single bad 'note' in my file because I got nasty with someone a while back, and I get threatened.

Now we've got folks neffing in a post started in PFI in a thread that we know has mods reading it, and not a f'ing peep about it.

Consistency is the single most important rule in raising children and moderating boards, and I'm not seeing it.

Excuse me, those posts that you call neffs were about the Moderating so they were on topic even if they were light hearted.

BTW I don't see the correlation between raising children and moderating forums.

I didn't think my post on the other issue wasn't a neff either, however the moderator deemed that it was, so the discussion is over on that point. I asked a semi-serious question regarding whether the mod who moved it realized it was just sarcasm.

I've always thought modding forums IS very similar to raising children: folks always tow the line, always test the limits, and always need to be consistently reminded where they are and what the penalties are for crossing them. If you have fun along the way, so much the better.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Whatever Pulsar, I totally got away with it. LULZ!

 

[Farang]

Whatever moderator started the policy of warning first before banning should be the moderators all of you other moderators listen to, because he or she is much smarter than you and more secure with their own sexuality.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Farang
Whatever moderator started the policy of warning first before banning should be the moderators all of you other moderators listen to, because he or she is much smarter than you and more secure with their own sexuality.

What competently managed forum wouldn't do something like that?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Farang
Whatever moderator started the policy of warning first before banning should be the moderators all of you other moderators listen to, because he or she is much smarter than you and more secure with their own sexuality.

:laugh:

Using some soothing napalm with an argument always gets results.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Farang
Whatever moderator started the policy of warning first before banning should be the moderators all of you other moderators listen to, because he or she is much smarter than you and more secure with their own sexuality.

If I wasn't so secure in my sexuality I'd ban you for that bolded comment:shocked:

 

[swbsam]

I just hate the mod tough guy routine.. "We need compliance and will ban/vacation until we get compliance" .. Threaten members who are upset because of overly restrictive moderation - is that how you run a business? Oh, wait- the moderators are usually losers who spend too much time on their computer (that's why they have time to moderate for free, and the pseudo power trip doesn't hurt either), not people who are paid or even know how to act in a customer friendly manner.

Enough with the tough guy bullshit.. Enough of the "don't make me work more, it's not my job to xxxx" crap - it IS your job... Enough with the John Wayne bullshit... We don't have to respect you because, frankly, you don't do anything to deserve our respect. People who just respect blindly are just boring, useless sheep - they will not help a community grow.

 

[EagleKeeper]

It is interesting that those that seem to complain the loudest are also those that have the longest history of infractions.

As others have stated well over 99% of the membership have no problems; the other 1% should look in the mirror

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
It is interesting that those that seem to complain the loudest are also those that have the longest history of infractions.

As others have stated well over 99% of the membership have no problems; the other 1% should look in the mirror

many are afraid of getting banned for speaking up about mods.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
It is interesting that those that seem to complain the loudest are also those that have the longest history of infractions.

As others have stated well over 99% of the membership have no problems; the other 1% should look in the mirror

That is a spurious argument since the main complaint is that people are being punished unfairly/unevenly. Accordingly those who do not have any "infractions" do not have any reason to complain. Like in a hostage situation, you know there is a problem but you do not want to draw attention to yourself for fear of reprisal. In addition, the complaints involve the claim that some of the "infractions" were unfairly punished.

That being said, the real issue has never been addressed by the moderation team: There is a huge moderation team inconsistency problem that is resulting in people not knowing what is allowed and what is not. There are some members who seem to get away with murder while others are on an extremely short leash. (In my case, almost all, if not all, of my "infractions" involve responding to the same member and dealing with the same senior moderator, neither of whom, from what I can tell, have ever been reprimanded for their behavior that has been in clear violation of the Forum Guidelines.)

The members of the moderation team claim that people know the limits and that the trouble-makers get punished when they knowingly push those limits. I am not so sure all the limits are so well defined.

Let me give you some examples:

1. It is OK to call someone a "huge dick" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=38&threadid=2322707 );

2. It is OK to call someone a "dumbfuck" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2325297 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324518 );

3. It is OK to call someone a "fucking moron" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2301600 );

4. It is NOT OK to call someone an "ass" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324991 );


5. It is NOT OK to put "dick" in thread title or sig because it is "profanity" (According to a Senior Moderator. See Rule 6. "Foul language in topic titles, summaries or sigs and excessive foul language is not permitted.");

6. It is OK to put "dick" in thread title (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331214 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324168 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2308431 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2302487 );

7. It is OK to put "shit" in a sig (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=40&threadid=2330009 )

8. It is OK to put foul language in titles if you do not spell it correctly ( http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2323640 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331585 )


9. Mods will edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI WITHOUT taking any further public action against the poster (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2328896 );

10. Mods will NOT edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI and WILL hand out a VACATION to the poster for such posts (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324112 ).


11. It is NOT OK to start threads about items that may be illegal is some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330090 )

12. It is OK to start threads about items that may be illegal in some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2328728 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2325691 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324601 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2328752 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330492 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330467 )

The moderation team seems very concerned with members who push the limits when, in reality, no one really knows the limits.

The moderation team mantra also seems to be that they can't see every infraction in every thread. There are two problems with that argument:

1. Many of the issues are in threads that moderators have posted in;
2. Even after the issues are pointed out, moderation of the infraction many times does not occur.

As one of the labeled trouble-makers (having just returned from a six-week vacation), I am not asking for special treatment. On the contrary, I am asking simply to be treated like every other member (or, to put it another way, to have every other member treated like me.

Some of the moderation team looks at the members as acting like children. Well, just like children, forum members need consistency (Without consistency, children act out - see a similarity here?). If you read through all the "complaints" you will see that consistency is all that the so-called trouble-makers are asking for.

(I hope this post does not get me perma-banned, but I have been watching, reading and waiting for six weeks to post it.)

MotionMan

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
It is interesting that those that seem to complain the loudest are also those that have the longest history of infractions.

As others have stated well over 99% of the membership have no problems; the other 1% should look in the mirror

That is a spurious argument since the main complaint is that people are being punished unfairly/unevenly. Accordingly those who do not have any "infractions" do not have any reason to complain. Like in a hostage situation, you know there is a problem but you do not want to draw attention to yourself for fear of reprisal. In addition, the complaints involve the claim that some of the "infractions" were unfairly punished.

That being said, the real issue has never been addressed by the moderation team: There is a huge moderation team inconsistency problem that is resulting in people not knowing what is allowed and what is not. There are some members who seem to get away with murder while others are on an extremely short leash. (In my case, almost all, if not all, of my "infractions" involve responding to the same member and dealing with the same senior moderator, neither of whom, from what I can tell, have ever been reprimanded for their behavior that has been in clear violation of the Forum Guidelines.)

The members of the moderation team claim that people know the limits and that the trouble-makers get punished when they knowingly push those limits. I am not so sure all the limits are so well defined.

Let me give you some examples:

1. It is OK to call someone a "huge dick" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=38&threadid=2322707);

2. It is OK to call someone a "dumbfuck" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2325297 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324518 );

3. It is OK to call someone a "fucking moron" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2301600 );

4. It is NOT OK to call someone an "ass" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324991 );


5. It is NOT OK to put "dick" in thread title or sig because it is "profanity" (According to a Senior Moderator. See Rule 6. "Foul language in topic titles, summaries or sigs and excessive foul language is not permitted.");

6. It is OK to put "dick" in thread title (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331214 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324168 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2308431 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2302487 );

7. It is OK to put "shit" in a sig (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=40&threadid=2330009 )

8. It is OK to put foul language in titles if you do not spell it correctly ( http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2323640 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331585 )


9. Mods will edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI WITHOUT taking any further public action against the poster (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2328896 );

10. Mods will NOT edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI and WILL hand out a VACATION to the poster for such posts (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324112 ).


11. It is NOT OK to start threads about items that may be illegal is some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330090 )

12. It is OK to start threads about items that may be illegal in some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2328728 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2325691 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324601 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2328752 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330492 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330467 )

The moderation team seems very concerned with members who push the limits when, in reality, no one really knows the limits.

The moderation team mantra also seems to be that they can't see every infraction in every thread. There are two problems with that argument:

1. Many of the issues are in threads that moderators have posted in;
2. Even after the issues are pointed out, moderation of the infraction many times does not occur.

As one of the labeled trouble-makers (having just returned from a six-week vacation), I am not asking for special treatment. On the contrary, I am asking simply to be treated like every other member (or, to put it another way, to have every other member treated like me.

Some of the moderation team looks at the members as acting like children. Well, just like children, forum members need consistency (Without consistency, children act out - see a similarity here?). If you read through all the "complaints" you will see that consistency is all that the so-called trouble-makers are asking for.

(I hope this post does not get me perma-banned, but I have been watching, reading and waiting for six weeks to post it.)

MotionMan

Yep. CC's comments are true to an extent but their own actions have caused that disparity.

Clearly people can see how some have been targeted- no? If not then we'll use my own situation of being told I was being "watched like a hawk"(years ago). Basically a couple of the mods were actively TRYING to find something since they don't like my politics and/or didn't like me calling them out on their inconsistency. Meh, it's all quite comical really. I offered suggestions on how to "fix" this years ago but was ignored - now I just laugh at SOME of the mods who play the tough guy routine yet would be banned if they weren't MODs due to their actions/posts.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Farang
Whatever moderator started the policy of warning first before banning should be the moderators all of you other moderators listen to, because he or she is much smarter than you and more secure with their own sexuality.

lol

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
It is interesting that those that seem to complain the loudest are also those that have the longest history of infractions.

As others have stated well over 99% of the membership have no problems; the other 1% should look in the mirror

That is a spurious argument since the main complaint is that people are being punished unfairly/unevenly. Accordingly those who do not have any "infractions" do not have any reason to complain. Like in a hostage situation, you know there is a problem but you do not want to draw attention to yourself for fear of reprisal. In addition, the complaints involve the claim that some of the "infractions" were unfairly punished.

That being said, the real issue has never been addressed by the moderation team: There is a huge moderation team inconsistency problem that is resulting in people not knowing what is allowed and what is not. There are some members who seem to get away with murder while others are on an extremely short leash. (In my case, almost all, if not all, of my "infractions" involve responding to the same member and dealing with the same senior moderator, neither of whom, from what I can tell, have ever been reprimanded for their behavior that has been in clear violation of the Forum Guidelines.)

The members of the moderation team claim that people know the limits and that the trouble-makers get punished when they knowingly push those limits. I am not so sure all the limits are so well defined.

Let me give you some examples:

1. It is OK to call someone a "huge dick" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=38&threadid=2322707);

2. It is OK to call someone a "dumbfuck" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2325297 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324518 );

3. It is OK to call someone a "fucking moron" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2301600 );

4. It is NOT OK to call someone an "ass" (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324991 );


5. It is NOT OK to put "dick" in thread title or sig because it is "profanity" (According to a Senior Moderator. See Rule 6. "Foul language in topic titles, summaries or sigs and excessive foul language is not permitted.");

6. It is OK to put "dick" in thread title (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331214 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324168 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2308431 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2302487 );

7. It is OK to put "shit" in a sig (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=40&threadid=2330009 )

8. It is OK to put foul language in titles if you do not spell it correctly ( http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2323640 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2331585 )


9. Mods will edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI WITHOUT taking any further public action against the poster (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2328896 );

10. Mods will NOT edit out parts of offensive posts in PFI and WILL hand out a VACATION to the poster for such posts (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=75&threadid=2324112 ).


11. It is NOT OK to start threads about items that may be illegal is some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330090 )

12. It is OK to start threads about items that may be illegal in some jurisdictions (http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2328728 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2325691 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2324601 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2328752 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330492 ; http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2330467 )

The moderation team seems very concerned with members who push the limits when, in reality, no one really knows the limits.

The moderation team mantra also seems to be that they can't see every infraction in every thread. There are two problems with that argument:

1. Many of the issues are in threads that moderators have posted in;
2. Even after the issues are pointed out, moderation of the infraction many times does not occur.

As one of the labeled trouble-makers (having just returned from a six-week vacation), I am not asking for special treatment. On the contrary, I am asking simply to be treated like every other member (or, to put it another way, to have every other member treated like me.

Some of the moderation team looks at the members as acting like children. Well, just like children, forum members need consistency (Without consistency, children act out - see a similarity here?). If you read through all the "complaints" you will see that consistency is all that the so-called trouble-makers are asking for.

(I hope this post does not get me perma-banned, but I have been watching, reading and waiting for six weeks to post it.)

MotionMan

Holy research Batman!