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ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Either my memory is wrong, or yours is... Because I never recall the Geforce 2 Ultra ever going to $500. Additionally, I purchased my Geforce 1 DDR for 249 @ CompUSA and my GeForce 2 GTS for 299 @ CompUSA. The TNT prices I could be wrong on, but I remember having the regular version of it for $179. It was a creative card, IIRC. I wonder if a google search would give any results from way back then.

The GeForceDDR launched @$299- I picked a Herc model up at launch and paid $319 for it(it was clocked at a whopping 130MHZ versus the rest which were 120- 10MHZ may not sound like much but it was close to 10%- that was the last nV board I purchased). The GeForce2 GTS launched @$299 also, the GeForce2 Pro launched @$399 and the GeForce2 Ultra launched @$499. You can check if you like, but those were the actual launch prices.

Oh yeah- the Obsidian x24 was $600 and that came out prior to the TNT2. $500 for a vid card isn't anything new at all.


Actually, that does sound right. I had forgotten that I purchased my Herc (Geforce DDR) at cost, which was like 247 at the time. I don't even remember the Geforce 2 Pro, but now that you mention it, it does ring a bell. I still don't remember the Geforce 2 Ultra ever selling for 500, but I guess my memory is wrong on that.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
Either my memory is wrong, or yours is... Because I never recall the Geforce 2 Ultra ever going to $500. Additionally, I purchased my Geforce 1 DDR for 249 @ CompUSA and my GeForce 2 GTS for 299 @ CompUSA. The TNT prices I could be wrong on, but I remember having the regular version of it for $179. It was a creative card, IIRC. I wonder if a google search would give any results from way back then.

The GeForceDDR launched @$299- I picked a Herc model up at launch and paid $319 for it(it was clocked at a whopping 130MHZ versus the rest which were 120- 10MHZ may not sound like much but it was close to 10%- that was the last nV board I purchased). The GeForce2 GTS launched @$299 also, the GeForce2 Pro launched @$399 and the GeForce2 Ultra launched @$499. You can check if you like, but those were the actual launch prices.

Oh yeah- the Obsidian x24 was $600 and that came out prior to the TNT2. $500 for a vid card isn't anything new at all.


Actually, that does sound right. I had forgotten that I purchased my Herc (Geforce DDR) at cost, which was like 247 at the time. I don't even remember the Geforce 2 Pro, but now that you mention it, it does ring a bell. I still don't remember the Geforce 2 Ultra ever selling for 500, but I guess my memory is wrong on that.

Yeha I picked up a used Ultra for 350 from a friend because he was tight on cash, I remember saying yes with no hesitation because I knew what it went for at the time and how fast they were. As for the Pro I don't think many of them went to retail since perfomance was only a little greater then the GTS and was mostly sold to OEMs.
 

Topweasel

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I think all retail GTXs have VIVO.

Edit. No apparently not. wierd I am pretty sure the connector supports it they jut didn't supply a breaker box for it. None of them did. wierd.
 
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i see that the usual red team batters have well knocked this thread out of the park.........good stuff guys, this place gets more like a play ground full of 5 year olds everyday
 

BenSkywalker

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As for the Pro I don't think many of them went to retail since perfomance was only a little greater then the GTS and was mostly sold to OEMs.

The Pros dominated on these boards. You could pick up the Gainward Pro450 which was clocked 10MHZ down from the Ultra in both core and mem speeds for $100 less then the Ultra- it was very popular amongst ATers at the time.
 

FalllenAngell

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Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
As for the Pro I don't think many of them went to retail since perfomance was only a little greater then the GTS and was mostly sold to OEMs.

The Pros dominated on these boards. You could pick up the Gainward Pro450 which was clocked 10MHZ down from the Ultra in both core and mem speeds for $100 less then the Ultra- it was very popular amongst ATers at the time.

I had two GF2 Pros back in the day- best bang for buck by far. Had the Hercules models, they were sweet cards.
 

aznrice54

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
XTX $80 more than the 7900GTX? No, not even close. XTX $514 shipped; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671
Yeah, who said it was that much more expensive? It's not really.

Besides a X1900XT performs nearly equal (or equal when overclocked, though I've read some rumors that XTX cores OC slightly better).

IMO the 7900GTX's price still needs to drop to match X1900XT levels - that would tip the scales in its favor. However, the 7900GT really looks like a sweet deal. Based on all those factory OC'd variants by XFX/eVGA, it seems like it can be overclocked to near 7800GTX 512 speeds, possibly even over them.

Hopefully we'll see some intense price wars. I'm sure the 7900 series pricing will drop in the coming days.
 

Gstanfor

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Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
As for the Pro I don't think many of them went to retail since perfomance was only a little greater then the GTS and was mostly sold to OEMs.

The Pros dominated on these boards. You could pick up the Gainward Pro450 which was clocked 10MHZ down from the Ultra in both core and mem speeds for $100 less then the Ultra- it was very popular amongst ATers at the time.

I had two GF2 Pros back in the day- best bang for buck by far. Had the Hercules models, they were sweet cards.

I had a GF2 Pro, hercules as well. They were very popular back then and deservedly so. I still have the card, not in a system though.
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
Originally posted by: Ackmed
XTX $80 more than the 7900GTX? No, not even close. XTX $514 shipped; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671

That's an OEM item, not directly comparable. Note the "30 day return for exchange only" warranty?

Thats a return to newegg, not to Sapphire. Sapphire gives OEM a one year warranty. Good try though, tRollo. The simple fact is, the XTX is not $80 more than the 7900GTX as was claimed.
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
Originally posted by: Ackmed
XTX $80 more than the 7900GTX? No, not even close. XTX $514 shipped; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671

That's an OEM item, not directly comparable. Note the "30 day return for exchange only" warranty?

Thats a return to newegg, not to Sapphire. Sapphire gives OEM a one year warranty. Good try though, tRollo. The simple fact is, the XTX is not $80 more than the 7900GTX as was claimed.

Good try rollo with gotee. While I can understand Jokers and a few others conversations getting off topic, you have now tried twice to completely derail the thread. I se you made a thread about XTX pricing, good please keep that information there. I have nothing against you right now but continously attempting to derail this thread will make me think otherwise. So again trying to be as sinsere as possible please keep this thread on topic.
 

FalllenAngell

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
Originally posted by: Ackmed
XTX $80 more than the 7900GTX? No, not even close. XTX $514 shipped; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671

That's an OEM item, not directly comparable. Note the "30 day return for exchange only" warranty?

Thats a return to newegg, not to Sapphire. Sapphire gives OEM a one year warranty. Good try though, tRollo. The simple fact is, the XTX is not $80 more than the 7900GTX as was claimed.

The fact remains, you can't compare OEM that you can't get refund on (period) to retail, that you can get your money back for.

A person buying a card as loud as the X1900XTX might want the option to get their money back?

Not to mention a one year warranty is pretty slim pickings compared to any 7900GTX.
 

vanvock

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This is just what I've been waiting for. I sprung for the XFX - UDE from ZZF for 310. It's 520 & 1.5
 

beggerking

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: FalllenAngell
Originally posted by: Ackmed
XTX $80 more than the 7900GTX? No, not even close. XTX $514 shipped; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102671

That's an OEM item, not directly comparable. Note the "30 day return for exchange only" warranty?

Thats a return to newegg, not to Sapphire. Sapphire gives OEM a one year warranty. Good try though, tRollo. The simple fact is, the XTX is not $80 more than the 7900GTX as was claimed.

OEM part is different from retail part. The bundle is different too. if you compare retail vs retail, there is about an $80 difference.

you need to get your facts right.
 
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