Bottom of the rung is a category, 30 million is the amount of people in that category that will get this entitlement. There are obviously more than 30 million in the category.
So these aren't the bottom rung, they would be some sort of different class, somewhere in the middle, if only there was a name for that class of people...
Exactly.So these aren't the bottom rung, they would be some sort of different class, somewhere in the middle, if only there was a name for that class of people...
*excluding anyone employed by a company with less than 50 people or whose employer finds it cheaper to pay a small fine than provide insurance.So these aren't the bottom rung, they would be some sort of different class, somewhere in the middle, if only there was a name for that class of people...
*excluding anyone employed by a company with less than 50 people or whose employer finds it cheaper to pay a small fine than provide insurance.
That's the way it should be. There should be risk pools. If you are higher risk - you should pay more for coverage. It is INSURANCE mind you.
So people who are born with a condition who already have a tougher time than a normal person must pay even more? Why I ask? So the healthy person can enjoy his life even more with that extra cash? Talk about being freaking selfish. You sound like a person with excellent values. Keep it up.
Exactly.
Yes, joining everyone else in mediocrity while more opportunistic countries take our Number 1 spot.
We already do that.So it is the responsibility of people to provide health care for the less fortunate. Is that what you're saying?
So people who are born with a condition who already have a tougher time than a normal person must pay even more? Why I ask? So the healthy person can enjoy his life even more with that extra cash? Talk about being freaking selfish. You sound like a person with excellent values. Keep it up.
I don't understand your posts. Are you saying you want to compete with China and India on price? We can't do that. Moreover, we don't really compete with China and India. Our main competitors are first-world nations. That's where a lot of new IP comes from and we are doing well compared to Europe and Japan. As for healthcare, most first world nations also take care of their own and now we are joining them. Third world nations are savage by comparison.
We already do that.
Follow the jobs. They're leaving for a reason.
The fact is people will never be equal in health and life just isn't "fair". However, that doesn't give you or the gov't the authority to take everyone's earnings/property. Selfishness has no place in the equation. If you are a higher risk - you are in a higher risk pool which usually means you pay more. That's just the plain facts.
They should change their names to Emocrats. It would be more fitting.
Yeah such shame in showing humanity.
I should first think about my money then think about others second.
As far as tax payer money goes. Everyone already pays taxes for just about everything. Just look how much we spend on defense. With your line of thinking I guess we should just get rid of police departments and fire departments. Abolish all social programs, right?
If memory serves, the bill caps what they can charge at 150% of a standard policy.
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Social Security and Medicare are disasters. Police departments and fire departments are necessary. Ridiculous wars based on lies or suspect information (like Iraq) are not necessary.
Who cares about happier? Is happiness going to create jobs? No!
Why does this country always have to go kicking and screaming into progress? This is the future.
How can you be against capitalism and be pro-business? How can you be for less government and government protection (of jobs) at the same time? These jobs are leaving because they are cheaper to produce over there, end of story. I assume you do not shop at Walmart or look for the cheapest prices because you are taking a stand against jobs going to China and India, right?
That was a refreshingly honest answer. Of course it boils down to: "progress" = your political agenda forced on everyone, but that is true of every statist's politics. I don't hold that against you.I look at progress as advancing the well being of the human race - freedom, prosperity - which includes reducing some groups from taking advantage of others.
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On a global level, I'm more concerned as the US as a champion for progressive values (individual rights) aganst more oppressive systems is losing some influence. This is both from bad policies at times and from economic irresonsibility, since economic power affects cultural influence. On the other hand, it's an advance that Latin America is more independant and without the US backing the death squads and similar forces for power.
Social Security and Medicare are disasters. Police departments and fire departments are necessary. Ridiculous wars based on lies or suspect information (like Iraq) are not necessary.
"Start over" means we go back to allowing discriminating based on preexisting conditions and rescission when you get sick, and then maybe ban it again, maybe not depending on how legislative process plays out.
They want to repeal this bill, not keep the good parts and repeal the bad, but to repeal the whole bill.
THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!