ITX, P67 and overclock

[remyat]

Do you think someone is going to manufacture an ITX board featuring the P67 chipset to allow overclocking? don't think it's gonna happen so i'll try to wait for a nice Z68 ITX board (weird move Intel not allowing oc on H67).

Why am I asking this? well SB looks like a perfect HTPC/Gaming combo, low heat, low power while idling/browsing/watching movies, plenty of punch when gaming or transcoding. Paired with a low power card, such as a 5670 (or a hypothetical 6670-6770 :awe inside a nice ITX case... my dreams coming true.

 

[Zap]

I believe six different companies have already announced H67 chipset ITX boards... and nothing else. The only company that made a P55 ITX board is no longer in the market...

Magic 8 Ball say: Outlook not so good.

Why wouldn't an H67 chipset ITX board work for your purposes?

 

[remyat]

Overclock, maybe I'm being ambitious wanting to overclock on an ITX board but thinking I could miss about 1Ghz (being conservative?) makes me a sad panda.

 

[faxon]

given that all you need to make a good sandy OC board is proper VRMs and cooling, if you skimped enough on the rest of the features you might be able to cram it all on there to be honest given the requirements. with some crafty board design they could double up the VRM and PCH heatsinks even if need be, and bottom mount some of the chips people expect to maximize board real estate. still, outlook not so good, i doubt their will be much demand for this, though i'd definitely be interested in seeing what can be done with it none the less

 

[aigomorla]

i saw the H67 from giggy thats an itx @ the CES afterparty. (being from giggy, im fairly sure u can overclock it.)
When i say saw, i mean got to hold it, and almost was able to play freezbie with it til the giggy rep threaten to fishslap me with a UD7 if i did!



So yes, H67 in ITX will be out shortly.

 

[nanobreath]

i saw the H67 from giggy thats an itx @ the CES afterparty. (being from giggy, im fairly sure u can overclock it.)
When i say saw, i mean got to hold it, and almost was able to play freezbie with it til the giggy rep threaten to fishslap me with a UD7 if i did!



So yes, H67 in ITX will be out shortly.

Except he is asking for P67!

 

[aigomorla]

Except he is asking for P67!

he's asking for a itx p67 version which allows overclocking.

And i said the Giggy H67 should already allow that and its a itx.

If it doesnt, then im sure giggy will come out soon with one that does, but even there 1156 itx allows overclocking.

The SB cpu's only allow overclocking on the multi side, so i dont see why a H67 from giggy wouldnt allow that if your cpu could support it.

 

[remyat]

What's the point of P67 if you can just allow overclock via software? (BIOS or something like Lucid to allow Quick Sync using a discrete card)

It seems ASUS has P67 micro ATX boards already (with 3 PCIe wtf ) so it's just a step further, don't want to wait for Z68!

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=hcyfdEpZcMvFkTNm
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=iT2FJPCMOGBHClu4

 

[nanobreath]

Has anybody put up absolute proof that there can be a REAL overclock on an H67 MB yet though. You "assume", but have no proof. Everything from Intel and review sits all state you can ONLY overclock the multiplier if you have a P67. I understand skepticism and expectations it could be enabled on H67, but nobody has come out saying it can be done. If you do have said proof, please provide it!!!!! A lot of folks would be interested in that.

 

[aigomorla]

Has anybody put up absolute proof that there can be a REAL overclock on an H67 MB yet though. You "assume", but have no proof. Everything from Intel and review sits all state you can ONLY overclock the multiplier if you have a P67. I understand skepticism and expectations it could be enabled on H67, but nobody has come out saying it can be done. If you do have said proof, please provide it!!!!! A lot of folks would be interested in that.

email giggy tech support and ASK.

They have a working / production itx thats a h67.

 

[Zap]

TWO Mini-ITX Sandy Bridge motherboards coming from Gigabyte

Fortunately, Gigabyte has more than one Mini-ITX motherboard in the works for Sandy Bridge. A P67-based model is on the way that will drop the display outputs in favor of CPU overclocking support.

H67 chipset version should be end of January. No ETA on P67 version.

 

[Synomenon]

WTF is Asus thinking putting a PS/2 mouse port on their P67 mATX boards? I can understand having a PS/2 keyboard port since I still use a PS/2 keyboard myself (to power the sytem on with a press of a key).

 

[Ross Ridge]

WTF is Asus thinking putting a PS/2 mouse port on their P67 mATX boards? I can understand having a PS/2 keyboard port since I still use a PS/2 keyboard myself (to power the sytem on with a press of a key).

Probably because they're based on equivilent microATX H67 boards. Removing the video connectors leaves at lot of space that they can easily fill with a second PS/2 port. The single PS/2 port on the H67 boards supports either a mouse or keyboard so they probably don't even have to run new traces from the SuperI/O chip.

 

[Synomenon]

Or they could have done what they have done in the past and put two USB2.0 ports in place of the PS/2 mouse port. They've got more than enough internal USB2.0 headers.

 

[PreferLinux]

Has anybody put up absolute proof that there can be a REAL overclock on an H67 MB yet though. You "assume", but have no proof. Everything from Intel and review sits all state you can ONLY overclock the multiplier if you have a P67. I understand skepticism and expectations it could be enabled on H67, but nobody has come out saying it can be done. If you do have said proof, please provide it!!!!! A lot of folks would be interested in that.

Not everything from Intel. http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/324586.pdf Some H67 boards seem to not be able to overclock at all. I have read a review where one was overclocked by ~200 MHz (only from software, not BIOS). Zotac has a Mini ITX board, and the news announcements on various sites (all the same, I think) claimed it supported 130 W processors for extra "overclocking headroom"!

http://www.techpowerup.com/137823/Z...ket-Processors-with-Mini-ITX-Form-Factor.html (And several others.)

Equipped with the Intel H67 Express chipset, the ZOTAC H67-ITX WiFi supports the latest LGA1155 2nd Generation Intel Core family processors including 2000 series Core i3, i5 and i7 processors. The ZOTAC H67-ITX WiFi goes beyond the capabilities of the 2nd Generation Intel Core platform and accommodates processors up to 130-watt TDP – above the 95-watts required by the fastest Intel Core i7 processor – for additional overclocking headroom that appeals to the most demanding enthusiasts.

I think it seems that no overclocking on H67 is a BIOS limitation rather than chipset.

 

[dougri]

I think it seems that no overclocking on H67 is a BIOS limitation rather than chipset.

That is what LNO is maintaining... gotta hand it to them, trying to make a go of selling overclocked systems for SB. gotta be a relatively small market that wants a very fast computer but is averse to DIY OC on air. Intel has made it almost too easy on SB.

 

[Ross Ridge]

Or they could have done what they have done in the past and put two USB2.0 ports in place of the PS/2 mouse port. They've got more than enough internal USB2.0 headers.

They've got plenty of space to put more USB ports, they could move all the internal headers and still keep the second PS/2 port. The problem is that rerouting traces from one side of the board to another isn't as easy as adding another PS/2 connector that can use the corresponding H67 design pretty much as-is. Basically the extra PS/2 connector is free. You're not losing the two USB ports, they're just moved over a bit to fill the space where the HDMI port would go.

 

[PreferLinux]

So, Intel finally got back with a proper answer

Our product engineer confirmed that there's an error in the pdf. We are fixing that.

So now you know, it's a mistake, so no, you can't overclock with the H67 chipset and you'll have to wait for Z68 which should be out between now and Computex...

So some of the motherboard manufactures must have messed up a bit.

 

[DaveSimmons]

TWO Mini-ITX Sandy Bridge motherboards coming from Gigabyte

Fortunately, Gigabyte has more than one Mini-ITX motherboard in the works for Sandy Bridge. A P67-based model is on the way that will drop the display outputs in favor of CPU overclocking support.

H67 chipset version should be end of January. No ETA on P67 version.

The underlined part seems to say only the P67 from Gigabyte offers overclocking, not the H67.