- Oct 11, 1999
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I'm posting this for another member who wishes to remain anonymous.
So here's the situation. I have worked for the my current IT company for <5 years, and overall I say things have been very good and I have been quite happy here. However I'm a big advocate of keeping all options open, and keep one eye open for better opportunities. I?ve managed to keep very good relationships with both my former bosses who came into the company and left for other companies during my time here. Both are very fond of me, and have many times approached me to consider leaving to come join them in their various companies.
Well in the last few months things at company have changed, whether it be someone gaining new influence within the management or simply a change of philosophy, things have changed drastically. They seem to have gone from a company that stood up and by their engineers come hell or high water, to a company that is willing to roast, and deep fry engineers in order to kiss the ass of whatever overbearing finger pointing customer. I?ve seen several great engineers fall to the axe in recent months for trivial bullsh!t reasons. Which have served to erase that warm and fuzzy feeling I?ve always had working here. SO I decided to investigate one of the opportunities one of my former boss has been shaking in my direction for a while. I interviewed with them a couple of times, and apparently made a good impression because they came back to me very interested and an excellent offer in hand.
The issues?
1.) while my company may be going down the tubes as far as management goes? the fellow engineers I work with on a daily basis are some of the best people I?ve ever worked with, all of whom I consider not only co-workers but friends? and I will truly mourn not being able to work with them any more.
2.) I?m currently in the most senior position on this particular project and as such hold a key role, my leaving would really put some people in a tight spot.
3.) I am very secure in my current position and my complaints are based on principle and not necessarily fear for losing my job.
4.) If I stick it out and this project pulls through, I would establish myself as virtually indespensible to the company and my future with them would be ensured for years to come
5.) The current position would be static in my current area, with little hope of being available to me should I decide to move for whatever reason. Whereas the new company has locations all over the united states, and I would have little problem simply moving to a different location and keeping my job.
The offers?.
Current Position:
Description: Systems engineer designing special solutions for tasks such as server migrations, Active Directory design, exchange implementations etc.
Salary: $80,000/year
no regular bonuses, however I did receive a $3000 bonus this year for achievement
$60/month cell phone allowance
Benefits: Excellent Health, Dental, life etc.
401K : matching of $1K per year
Personal Leave, and sick leave rolled together: 5 hours accrued per pay period maximum of 140 hours.
10 Holidays
Location: 15 minute commute, 0% travel
Other Considerations: Raise expected in December, last years raise was 11% so estimated salary then will be $88,800
New Position:
Description: Systems engineer designing and implementing SAN solutions and migrations of various systems to the SAN solutions.
Salary $97,000/year
Bonuses: $2200/year for holding clearance
15% of salary/year(paid monthly) depending on meeting company wide financial quotas.
Stock Options: 4,500 shares partially vested after 1yr, fully vested in 10yrs
$150 cell phone allowance
Benefits: Excellent Health, Dental, life etc.
401K: matching 1K per year
Personal leave: 3.7 hours per pay period, maximum of 160hrs
Sick Leave: 3.08 per pay period, maximum of 250hrs
10 holidays
Location: variable 15mins-2hours, 25% travel
Other considerations: Raise expected in March
What are your thoughts?
So here's the situation. I have worked for the my current IT company for <5 years, and overall I say things have been very good and I have been quite happy here. However I'm a big advocate of keeping all options open, and keep one eye open for better opportunities. I?ve managed to keep very good relationships with both my former bosses who came into the company and left for other companies during my time here. Both are very fond of me, and have many times approached me to consider leaving to come join them in their various companies.
Well in the last few months things at company have changed, whether it be someone gaining new influence within the management or simply a change of philosophy, things have changed drastically. They seem to have gone from a company that stood up and by their engineers come hell or high water, to a company that is willing to roast, and deep fry engineers in order to kiss the ass of whatever overbearing finger pointing customer. I?ve seen several great engineers fall to the axe in recent months for trivial bullsh!t reasons. Which have served to erase that warm and fuzzy feeling I?ve always had working here. SO I decided to investigate one of the opportunities one of my former boss has been shaking in my direction for a while. I interviewed with them a couple of times, and apparently made a good impression because they came back to me very interested and an excellent offer in hand.
The issues?
1.) while my company may be going down the tubes as far as management goes? the fellow engineers I work with on a daily basis are some of the best people I?ve ever worked with, all of whom I consider not only co-workers but friends? and I will truly mourn not being able to work with them any more.
2.) I?m currently in the most senior position on this particular project and as such hold a key role, my leaving would really put some people in a tight spot.
3.) I am very secure in my current position and my complaints are based on principle and not necessarily fear for losing my job.
4.) If I stick it out and this project pulls through, I would establish myself as virtually indespensible to the company and my future with them would be ensured for years to come
5.) The current position would be static in my current area, with little hope of being available to me should I decide to move for whatever reason. Whereas the new company has locations all over the united states, and I would have little problem simply moving to a different location and keeping my job.
The offers?.
Current Position:
Description: Systems engineer designing special solutions for tasks such as server migrations, Active Directory design, exchange implementations etc.
Salary: $80,000/year
no regular bonuses, however I did receive a $3000 bonus this year for achievement
$60/month cell phone allowance
Benefits: Excellent Health, Dental, life etc.
401K : matching of $1K per year
Personal Leave, and sick leave rolled together: 5 hours accrued per pay period maximum of 140 hours.
10 Holidays
Location: 15 minute commute, 0% travel
Other Considerations: Raise expected in December, last years raise was 11% so estimated salary then will be $88,800
New Position:
Description: Systems engineer designing and implementing SAN solutions and migrations of various systems to the SAN solutions.
Salary $97,000/year
Bonuses: $2200/year for holding clearance
15% of salary/year(paid monthly) depending on meeting company wide financial quotas.
Stock Options: 4,500 shares partially vested after 1yr, fully vested in 10yrs
$150 cell phone allowance
Benefits: Excellent Health, Dental, life etc.
401K: matching 1K per year
Personal leave: 3.7 hours per pay period, maximum of 160hrs
Sick Leave: 3.08 per pay period, maximum of 250hrs
10 holidays
Location: variable 15mins-2hours, 25% travel
Other considerations: Raise expected in March
What are your thoughts?