If that really explains the origin of tipping then what's the story with all the other trades where it's expected? People tip their hair stylists, carpet installers, delivery guy, etc.
Not true in a number of states
Meh. I used to make over $200 a night serving at fine dining restaurants when in college making $2.51 plus tips and worked my ass off. Would never make anything close to that with these wages and no tips...
but it's an avg of the minimum wage per paycheck.What states allow tipped waitstaff to be paid less than the federal minimum wage? AFAIK, the employer must make up any difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipped_wage_in_the_United_States
Did you work your ass off compared to people doing real manual/skilled labor making far less than you? Waiters always whine about how little people tip, but then they make more than almost any skilled laborer if they are at even a halfway decent restaurant.
Yes and I deserved every dollar I earned.
You do know that they are raising the prices? Gramercy Tavern is raising them 20% This is not about saving the consumer money.
And the servers will probably make less overall, one of my nieces is a server at Dennys. She has lots of regulars who eat there often and love her, it's not uncommon for her to bring home $100-150 in tips for a day + whatever they pay her hourly. Even if they bumped her to $15 an hour, if they eliminate tipping she will make less. And as you said, the food prices will go up. So it's a lose lose for the people dining.
And the servers will probably make less overall, one of my nieces is a server at Dennys. She has lots of regulars who eat there often and love her, it's not uncommon for her to bring home $100-150 in tips for a day + whatever they pay her hourly. Even if they bumped her to $15 an hour, if they eliminate tipping she will make less. And as you said, the food prices will go up. So it's a lose lose for the people dining.
The waitress at Denny's is clearing $18-22/hr while the cook is maybe getting $13.75. Not a lose/lose for the cook or the diner.
I would think that this would put the establishment in a position of only getting mediocre help at best. Since it's stated that people have already left over it, they were obviously getting more than the new compensation being offered. This just seems to fall in line with what's being pumped through our society today starting in school, everyone gets a trophy just for participation, there's no reward for excelling. This only rewards half assed servers and cheap skate tippers IMHO.
Since you don't know the difference between mussels and muscles, and think it's the primary lobster, rather than lobster from the state of Maine, I rather have my doubts about the rest of your baller type posts in the rest of the thread.
As far as your ideas that service is going to suffer, there will be fewer wait staff in restaurants, etc., if you reallllly think the type of people willing to shell out $800 for a dinner are going to put up with poor service, and excessive waits for things in the restaurant, you're out of your mind. Shitty servers are going to cost a restaurant repeat business - any owner would know that. Shitty servers can expect to be canned. You really think people are going to say, "you know, I think I'd rather be the guy sweating his ass off, busting his butt non-stop making this food for a lot less money than the people writing down orders and carrying the food out to the customers."
Good luck finding good servers for your $400 per person restaurant. Do you know what happens at understaffed restaurants?
Since you don't know the difference between mussels and muscles, and think it's the primary lobster, rather than lobster from the state of Maine, I rather have my doubts about the rest of your baller type posts in the rest of the thread.
Poking at my spelling errors doesn't change my points at all.
No they won't be cooks because they aren't dumb. They will leave the industry. Good luck finding good servers for your $400 per person restaurant. Do you know what happens at understaffed restaurants?
Bullshit. You didn't work harder than roofer, or electrician, or airline baggage crew. Hell, I had a fun job in college, as a carney, and several of my friends who were waiters came out with me at various times, not one of them every came back. They couldn't take the heat, the non-stop pace for a true 14 hours straight, and actually having to use muscles. Compared to when I worked hazardous waste, being a carney was a walk in the park.
Edit: I don't mind waiters making decent money, but it really annoys me when they whine about it all the time. Every waiter acts like they are being screwed over by the world, when they are making more in less time than almost any skilled labor position. A lot of high end waiters make more than degreed engineers with 10 years of experience, yet they will still let you know how they got screwed because they were only tipped $25 on a $200 ticket.