John Titor was right

[meltdown75]

omg did you get the last word in?!!? *claps*

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: Gurck
As I've stated, were you to actually read debates before responding to them (added bonus to doing this is not looking like an idiot), that thread was in large part an experiment.

Ah, of course. Silly me..

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ElFenix
you have to click to enter the thread, seems like you're an active participant.

Same could be said of free ipod scams, do you support those as well?

Care to show how the two are related, at all?

 

[squirrel dog]

WTF is john titor and give him a haircut.

 

[MiranoPoncho]

An anolgy in two words: Schrodinger's cat

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ElFenix
you have to click to enter the thread, seems like you're an active participant.

Same could be said of free ipod scams, do you support those as well?

Care to show how the two are related, at all?

Neither has a proper forum and both require clicking on them to be bothered by them, according to ElFenix's logic.

 

[Ranger X]

I know this thread is just a joke but I must add that John Titor is an idiot. There's no way in this time and age that a civil war can break out in the US.

 

[ArmenK]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: luv2chill

That's called Pascal's Wager. Not much of a reason to believe in God IMHO. That would be like believing in Santa Claus just because if you do, you get presents, if you don't, you get nothing. I'm sure God would love to have people "believe" merely as a contingency plan.

l2c

Very true. I'm a Christian and I would be a Christian even if there was no heaven or hell. Ponder that for a while and see if that doesn't blow your mind.

Unfortunately, most "Christians" seem to use the church as a social gettogether or are there because they're hedging their bets just in case there actually is a God.

I'm not going to explain why I'm a Christian. It's a message that only has meaning to those who are ready to hear it and, trust me, practically nobody on this forum is.

But I was once a cynic. I had gone to church, but didn't become a Christian until I was 20. I spent an entire year in near solitude thinking more deeply about life than most of you will in a lifetime. I read about every major religeon and mythology, but I didn't seek guidance from any man. I followed the same path Dante took out of the Inferno.....logic. Cold, hard, horrifying, merciless logic. When you ask the question "Why?" infinitely to every great question of humanity and answer it honestly, you will come to certain inevitable conclusions that leave you with still further questions. This requires a state of true humility and honesty that most people only pass through briefly in their lifetime. In any case, I'm not going to go more in depth....I'm going to get enough rolleyes as it is. But, rest assured, when you're seeking the Truth with an open heart it will be there waiting.

Let me see your progression of logical arguments. I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that you don't have a clue what a logic based argument is. If I am in fact wrong, please enlighten us lowly peons with your deep thoughts.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Neither has a proper forum and both require clicking on them to be bothered by them, according to ElFenix's logic.

So you are bothered by the very presence of religious threads in OT? Not saying you have to click on them or anything, but it would bother you if you opened up OT and there was a thread titled "Hey, anyone who wants to have a discussion on the Bible come on it"? Why?

And if this is not the proper forum, where is? What is the point of OT Gurck?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
So you are bothered by the very presence of religious threads in OT? <snip> if this is not the proper forum, where is? What is the point of OT Gurck?

Would you be bothered by the presence of an atheist-oriented thread in OT? You may say you wouldn't be, but chances are you'd just label the OP a troll Even if you truly wouldn't be, most would. A thread quoting the bible is a direct insult to non-christians. The OP of that post even had to claim it was in the name of education to save a little face. ANY thread about religion or politics is bound to start, at the very least, a vehement argument. The point of an OT forum isn't for vigorous debate. As I've stated, I'm in the "P&N&R" / new forum camp on the issue.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
So you are bothered by the very presence of religious threads in OT? <snip> if this is not the proper forum, where is? What is the point of OT Gurck?

Would you be bothered by the presence of an atheist-oriented thread in OT? You may say you wouldn't be, but chances are you'd just label the OP a troll Even if you truly wouldn't be, most would. A thread quoting the bible is a direct insult to non-christians. The OP of that post even had to claim it was in the name of education to save a little face. ANY thread about religion or politics is bound to start, at the very least, a vehement argument. The point of an OT forum isn't for vigorous debate. As I've stated, I'm in the "P&N&R" / new forum camp on the issue.

I AM an atheist, and no why would I be insulted. And how is quoting the Bible an insult to you, me, or any other non believer out there?

And OT can be a place for vigorous debate, and it's a shame it isn't. Hell, back in the day it was (for as much as I can remember anywho). Now it has degenerated into OMG I cut my toenails!

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
I AM an atheist, and no why would I be insulted. And how is quoting the Bible an insult to you, me, or any other non believer out there?

And OT can be a place for vigorous debate, and it's a shame it isn't. Hell, back in the day it was (for as much as I can remember anywho). Now it has degenerated into OMG I cut my toenails!

You should feel, if not insulted, a little put off by someone spewing scripture in an attempt to convert you. You don't have to feel threatened to feel this way, just that OT is not the place to sell stuff. If you're against free ipod s(c/p)am, you should be against someone trying to underhandedly sell religion as well. It's the principle.

I'm not sure what OT should be, really. Personally I feel it should be somewhere in between religion/political flamefests and toenail discussions / people telling Syringer "spider". Of course, it's really not my place to determine what belongs here & what doesn't. I don't see how anyone can condone religious proselytizing in it though.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
I AM an atheist, and no why would I be insulted. And how is quoting the Bible an insult to you, me, or any other non believer out there?

And OT can be a place for vigorous debate, and it's a shame it isn't. Hell, back in the day it was (for as much as I can remember anywho). Now it has degenerated into OMG I cut my toenails!

You should feel, if not insulted, a little put off by someone spewing scripture in an attempt to convert you. You don't have to feel threatened to feel this way, just that OT is not the place to sell stuff. If you're against free ipod s(c/p)am, you should be against someone trying to underhandedly sell religion as well. It's the principle.

I'm not sure what OT should be, really. Personally I feel it should be somewhere in between religion/political flamefests and toenail discussions / people telling Syringer "spider". Of course, it's really not my place to determine what belongs here & what doesn't. I don't see how anyone can condone religious proselytizing in it though.

So you're response in feeling offended is to go and offend a bunch of other people?

 

[FoBoT]

the libs are the anti-war/anti-gun people, so the right wingers with hordes of ammo will win easily

 

[meltdown75]

I thought this was covered by one of the mods already. The mods moderate the discussion in these forums - if we get out of line they'll let us know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Why are there religion police now? And how did they get anointed so?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: BigJ
So you're response in feeling offended is to go and offend a bunch of other people?

Ah, "do as I say, not as I do" rears its ugly head. I was actually waiting for this.

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I thought this was covered by one of the mods already. The mods moderate the discussion in these forums - if we get out of line they'll let us know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Why are there atheism police now? And how did they get anointed so?

Once fixed, an excellent question.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: BigJ
So you're response in feeling offended is to go and offend a bunch of other people?

Ah, "do as I say, not as I do" rears its ugly head. I was actually waiting for this.

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I thought this was covered by one of the mods already. The mods moderate the discussion in these forums - if we get out of line they'll let us know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Why are there atheism police now? And how did they get anointed so?

Once fixed, an excellent question.

I see your point, really I do - no one likes people pushing religion, there's enough people on the streets strapped with sandwich signs telling us to change our ways, we don't need them here. But you seem to be pushing atheism a lot more than the religious zealots are pushing their opinions. Again correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still somewhat new but this is just based on observing the threads of the past little while.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: BigJ
So you're response in feeling offended is to go and offend a bunch of other people?

Ah, "do as I say, not as I do" rears its ugly head. I was actually waiting for this.

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I thought this was covered by one of the mods already. The mods moderate the discussion in these forums - if we get out of line they'll let us know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Why are there atheism police now? And how did they get anointed so?

Once fixed, an excellent question.

No, not quite. You believe you're better than the fundies that spout off about their beliefs, yet you wind up doing the same thing. Pot meet kettle?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
you seem to be pushing atheism a lot more than the religious zealots are pushing their opinions. Again correct me if I'm wrong

You are. Correction. Note that not a word I've said on the subject has been unprovoked by those trying to spread christianity via tech forums.

Originally posted by: BigJ
No, not quite. You believe you're better than the fundies that spout off about their beliefs, yet you wind up doing the same thing. Pot meet kettle?

Interesting assumption, my best guess is that christianity or the effect it's had on popular opinion allows you to have no problem with the double standard. In either case, you'd do good to look past it and see reality

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: ElFenix
you have to click to enter the thread, seems like you're an active participant.

Same could be said of free ipod scams, do you support those as well?

Care to show how the two are related, at all?

Neither has a proper forum and both require clicking on them to be bothered by them, according to ElFenix's logic.

there is a rule from the man up above that no referral links are allowed, that is what is wrong with them. not the same at all. obviously, you don't get my logic

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: meltdown75
you seem to be pushing atheism a lot more than the religious zealots are pushing their opinions. Again correct me if I'm wrong

You are. Correction

Originally posted by: BigJ
No, not quite. You believe you're better than the fundies that spout off about their beliefs, yet you wind up doing the same thing. Pot meet kettle?

Interesting assumption, my best guess is that christianity or the effect it's had on popular opinion allows you to have no problem with the double standard. In either case, you'd do good to look past it and see reality

Let me break it down for you. You say that religious threads offend you. So would you not say atheist threads offend religious people?

So since you were offended, you go out and offend another person.

Ever hear of the saying two wrongs don't make a right?

Where did I say that it was alright for people to post religious threads and not atheist threads?

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: meltdown75
you seem to be pushing atheism a lot more than the religious zealots are pushing their opinions. Again correct me if I'm wrong

You are. Correction

How many times have you linked to that thread? Get over it - it's one thread. I don't think he's trying to change the world...

You're being a real Jurck.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
I know this thread is just a joke but I must add that John Titor is an idiot. There's no way in this time and age that a civil war can break out in the US.

That's what everyone says before a war. They think they're too "evolved" to be involved in a war. History has proven them wrong time and time again.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: BigJ


Let me break it down for you. You say that religious threads offend you. So would you not say atheist threads offend religious people?

So since you were offended, you go out and offend another person.

Ever hear of the saying two wrongs don't make a right?

My friend is a brainwashed Christian and he says that I offend him when I turn down his attempts to convert me. I don't try to convert him, but he says it's his mission to convert people around him to Christianity. He says there can be no other way.

All I want from him is to leave religion out of it. I don't knock Christianity when he's around, but every time he brings the topic of religion up every time I see him and he won't stop.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
My friend is a brainwashed Christian and he says that I offend him when I turn down his attempts to convert me. I don't try to convert him, but he says it's his mission to convert people around him to Christianity. He says there can be no other way.

All I want from him is to leave religion out of it. I don't knock Christianity when he's around, but every time he brings the topic of religion up every time I see him and he won't stop.

Just tell him Jesus was born a bastard. It's true.

Jesus was born before the second marriage ceremony of Joseph and Mary and was conceived before the first (marriages involved a two-stage process). And, since Joseph was of the line of David (and, hence, a member of the high priests), he and Mary were under restrictions to only conceive in the month of December. They jumped the gun by a few months.

That's why there was a controversy surrounding who was the legitimate "heir", Jesus or his younger brother James. John (the "baptist") came to the support of Jesus as first-born.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Let me break it down for you. You say that religious threads offend you. So would you not say atheist threads offend religious people?

So since you were offended, you go out and offend another person.

Ever hear of the saying two wrongs don't make a right?

I've heard the saying. Unlike you though, apparently, I don't believe everything I'm told. In this case I think it's more useful to speak out against opression than to take it laying down.

Where did I say that it was alright for people to post religious threads and not atheist threads?

You implied it by taking up issue with my thread and not Stark's bible-thumping one.

Originally posted by: meltdown75
You're being a real Jurck.

:laugh: Woot, the insult cometh! And thus Gurck was proven true in his unstated assumption that m75 was no older than 12 and would eventually resort to ad homs! - Gurck 10:04 (pm).