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I have to disagree, unfortunately.

If there can be more than one infinity, there is nothing stopping anyone from coming up with multiple degrees of unique.

Imagine a million different unique things. It's possible that many of them will be similar to each other but still have their own unique characteristics that set them apart. But there will be VERY FEW things in them that will share VERY LITTLE with the other unique things. Those will be "VERY UNIQUE". And then there will be some that won't share anything with the others. Those would be "EXTREMELY UNIQUE".
 
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Believe it or not saying "ATM machine" is going to produce less confusion on the whole than "ATM" both because using acronyms in spoken expression being difficult in some degree and because the "ATM machine" expression is more easily interpreted in speech than the pure acronym.
Agree. Unless humans develop some sort of telepathic device that lets people see exactly what we mean in our minds, communication with words will remain kind of a problem. You could be speaking perfect English and it may not make a lick of sense to someone with little knowledge of English. Speak horrible English and you may see their faces light up with delight.

Yes, unfortunately, that happens a lot to me. If I tried to speak English the way I write it, 99% of the people around me would think that I was trying to be pompous. And no, I can't switch to a place with better English speakers. That would bring problems of its own that I don't need (one of them is MAGA).
 
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DigDog

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“Just stop” is unnecessarily verbose. “Stop” is sufficient.
just putting this here.

Language does not work logically. I don't mean "we're dumb", i mean that words work like artifacts. So while they may be constructed with a logical system within one framework, we are then free to use other language to point at them from another framework. So "quite excellent" has a meaning within a different framework where "excellent" is an absolute that cannot be paired with "quite" or "very".

Oh and you totally do need to pair "unnecessarily" to "verbose". "verbose" and "terse" do not imply excess.
 
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Oh and you totally do need to pair "unnecessarily" to "verbose". "verbose" and "terse" do not imply excess.
FFS, no you don't and yes it ABSOLUTELY does.

Mr. Webster is slowly shaking his head and Mr. Merriam wishes to have a word with you.

Sadly, your primary education has failed you.


 

DigDog

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FFS, no you don't and yes it ABSOLUTELY does.

Mr. Webster is slowly shaking his head and Mr. Merriam wishes to have a word with you.

Sadly, your primary education has failed you.


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so this one adjective is immune to hyperbole?
Or is your interpretation that "more than necessary" is equal to "could not contain more" ? Sometimes people be thick n' all and you do need more words than what barely necessary.

My guy, don't be that guy. You don't want to argue with me, because i'm that of the "more better" people. https://jakubmarian.com/more-better-is-not-always-wrong-but-usually-it-is/
I delight, so to speak, at all the manifestations of the terpsichorean muse. (well, Calliopean, but it doesn't work without the citation
I am one for words.
Words are, they, for those like me.
 
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Verbose (adjective) - containing more words than necessary to express, deliver or convey something that could be expressed, delivered or conveyed with a smaller number of words and thus resulting in an excessive utilization and usage of an abundance of words.
 
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I'm educating you.
The Trump fiasco has shown that education doesn't matter anymore. Just who can change history. And language is always evolving so I think people who are using extra words for more emphasis are doing just that. Evolving the language we all love and speak. Some love it by strictly adhering to it. Others show their love for their favorite language by maiming it
 
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brianmanahan

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sometimes verbosity is necessary to figure out problems, otherwise programs wouldn't have a --verbose flag

(--verbose is usually unnecessarily verbose though because you can use -v instead)
 

Perknose

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so this one adjective is immune to hyperbole?
Redundancy is not hyperbole.
Or is your interpretation that "more than necessary" is equal to "could not contain more" ? Sometimes people be thick n' all and you do need more words than what barely necessary.


My guy, don't be that guy. You don't want to argue with me, because i'm that of the "more better" people. https://jakubmarian.com/more-better-is-not-always-wrong-but-usually-it-is/
I delight, so to speak, at all the manifestations of the terpsichorean muse. (well, Calliopean, but it doesn't work without the citation
I am one for words.
Words are, they, for those like me.
The goalposts. Did you notice? I could swear I saw them moving.

 
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IronWing

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Is it goalpost or goalposts? If someone runs into it, it’s a goalpost. If Jesus drop kicks us through, then it’s goalposts. Yet, the thing hasn’t changed.
 
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DigDog

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it's the goalpost, but in true do as i say not as i do, he too is applying a deformation originating from one framework to that word generated in another.



.. more ...

..better.
 
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Pohemi

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Just stop. Stupid shutupheads.

They are all over. I don't use cash enough to need them and take my checks directly to the bank. I have deposited checks remotely, too, but not for many years.
I only go to my bank when I need cash on dispensary day. I usually pull out more than many ATMs will dispense in a 24hr period. Checks all get mobile deposited through my bank's app.
Point taken. I think they did that to soften the image and produce a useful acronym. Teller Machine or TM don't work as well for an Acronym. Sometimes there's no good answer.
I grew up in the upper midwest knowing them as "Tyme machines", at least that's what everyone else called them because most of them were indeed 'TYME™' ATMs. When I was on the east coast, I asked a stranger where the nearest time machine was and they looked at me like I was smoking crack, lol.
 

IronWing

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Just stop. Stupid shutupheads.


I only go to my bank when I need cash on dispensary day. I usually pull out more than many ATMs will dispense in a 24hr period. Checks all get mobile deposited through my bank's app.

I grew up in the upper midwest knowing them as "Tyme machines", at least that's what everyone else called them because most of them were indeed 'TYME™' ATMs. When I was on the east coast, I asked a stranger where the nearest time machine was and they looked at me like I was smoking crack, lol.
Same here. Back then, national ATM networks weren’t a thing unless you banked with a big bank. I was traveling and running low on cash. To my immense surprise and relief, there was a Tyme machine in Taos, NM. Still don’t know how that happened. Sort of like Tucson having a branch of M&I bank, a Milwaukee based bank.
 
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nakedfrog

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Just stop. Stupid shutupheads.


I only go to my bank when I need cash on dispensary day. I usually pull out more than many ATMs will dispense in a 24hr period. Checks all get mobile deposited through my bank's app.

I grew up in the upper midwest knowing them as "Tyme machines", at least that's what everyone else called them because most of them were indeed 'TYME™' ATMs. When I was on the east coast, I asked a stranger where the nearest time machine was and they looked at me like I was smoking crack, lol.
Everybody knows the Time Machine is near Costco. I went to law school there, you know.

 
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