Kerry Concedes

[rh71]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: NFS4
Hillary in '08!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL, sorry to see Kerry lose, but oh well. I'll live. I didn't think that this country was going to change much one way or the other anyway. It would be interesting to see who the Dems put on the ticket for '08 though. They have been beaten into submission this election, Kerry has to go back to the Senate a defeated man (I couldn't bear walking onto the Senate floor the first time after this), Edwards is out of a job (and now has seen his seat go to a Republican after Bowles gets his ass kicked a second straight time...the first time by a woman who has enough pen marks on her back to to keep BIC in business).

This will be an interesting 4 years.

The ice queen will be on the ticket in 08. Wich again would make for a hard choice in who to chose. The republicans would need someone strong to beat her. though i did think Bill was a good presidant. I just lost faith in his lies under oath. NO presidant should be in charge after that. Yes i know you can claim Bush lied about the war (wich is why i didnt vote for him) but I feel it was more of bad advice. But he still takes the blaim.

I cant clearly confirm that he lied about WMD's but I think it is rediculous for a president who keeps releasing propoganda about how we need to pay more attention to our intelligence to say that the intelligence report on the near future of Iraq/Afghan democracy are just "guesses" and that the future is going smoothly for these countries when we are so far behind in each of them.

He did lie outright in the debate though. He claimed that he never said that he didnt care where Bin Laden was and that he didnt know where Kerry was getting that from. NPR played a clip of him being asked where Bin Laden might be and you hear him say almost word for word that he doesnt care where Bin Laden is. This is all only weeks after he said capturing Bin Laden was his highest priority. Talk about a flip flop!

Well when you have people writing what you say, it's kinda hard to keep track where you stand.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: FrustratedUser

Originally posted by: jdini76
Stupid question.

When a candidate concedes, do they stop counting the votes?

Yeah, does this mean all those votes are not counted? That's pretty fvcked up.

They should have ensured their eligability and found their precient for voting in the first place. Not saying that all of them shouldn't be counted, but rules are rules. It's doubtful that Kerry could have pulled out the difference from those votes, anyhow.

So the people in Ohio that waited in line 9 hours to vote shouldn't have those votes count since they didn't get to actually vote until 3:30am. That is absurd. The votes should be counted. It may not make a difference in the outcome, but at least people will be encouraged that their vote was counted.

All votes will be counted. Just because the votes that were cast last won't tip the scale doesn't mean they won't get counted. The state's representative (I think this is the general attorney) will only sign off on the results making it final until after all votes are counted.

The issue is that the majority of votes not being counted are from people who showed up at either the wrong precient or without being registered to vote. They were given ballots just because the lines were so long and the people working the polls don't have the power to say no to them. There would be a manditory 10 day wait to decide how the ballots would be handled (would they be inelligble for not registering, would they be elligible despite going to the wrong place?) and likely a large number of ballots would NOT be counted because they were not properly placed ballots.

The people who waited in line 9 hours HAVE been counted.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
It was only a matter of time. At least we know that 48% of the nations population isn't happy with Bush.

Can't spell WWIII without the Dubya!

Except Bush has the highest % of the popular vote since '88, including better then your boy Clinton.

Great. Can we change his title to 'King of the Idiots'?

I'm assuming you voted for Kerry? :beer:

Isn't it great to see our votes not meaning a damn thing?. Not that I expected it to turn out any different.


GJ, Kerry. Nice to see such a graceful concession -- shows something our government has not had in a long time : class.

Any clue on if he has plans to run in 08?

Congratulations to Mr. Bush: Don't let us down in your promises. Do your country proud and turn it around. Restore it's honorable international status, help your fellow citizens get the jobs that have been lost, try not to burden our children and your children with an incredible deficit and debt.

Edit: Was able to edit it in IE, but not FireFox

 

[Beau]

wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

 

[rh71]

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[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

 

[Electric Amish]

I'm assuming you voted for Kerry?

I wish he hadn't conceded....

No. I don't vote. In Utah, what's the point? I was watching the news and they had already given Bush the state before the freakin' polls had even closed! :disgust:

The only thing that tempted me to actually vote was the Prop3 - Banning of Gay Marriage. In the end, though, it still got soundly trounced by the closed-minded assclowns that live here.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

I guess it's all in your definition of "do".

I love it here.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

I'm assuming you voted for Kerry?

No. I don't vote. In Utah, what's the point? I was watching the news and they had already given Bush the state before the freakin' polls had even closed! :disgust:

The only thing that tempted me to actually vote was the Prop3 - Banning of Gay Marriage. In the end, though, it still got soundly trounced by the closed-minded assclowns that live here.

No joke.

Lets forcefully take over Antelope Island and secede from the state! Maybe they'll let the buffalo vote in 08.

 

[NFS4]

COULD Hillary win in '08???? I'm not that familiar with her voting record or policy views in relation to Kerry, but my guess would be that she leans a little more to the center.

But I don't think that America seems to be ready for a female President. It would be nice though.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

Yeah, they stop serving alcohol at 1am and everyplace has a cover/membership. That's the rule.

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

yeah, about the same for Rep vs Dem, too.

Which club did you go to? And the 1am law is state wide. Can't even purchase alcohol @ a store past 1.

 

[NissanGurl]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: shenaniganz

Originally posted by: aylanl4

Originally posted by: Mwilding
good for him - It's better to be a graceful loser than to drag the inevitable out and further divide the nation...

Kinda like Bush did 4 years ago right??

Bush was the one who drug out the inevitable???

YUP (early declarations said Gore had Florida, then Bush cried about it)

um. left slanted news organizations using flimsy exit polls to declare a wrong winner isn't a reason to concede. as the actual votes were counted and the true winner was shown, it was obvious gore wasn't winning ANYTHING. but hey, if you really want to look stupid, keep posting.

As I recall Gore WON the POPULAR vote. I'm not saying that the whole recount was the right way to go. I was stating that of the two it was the bush side that started raising counting issues first. But I like how you go straight for a personal intelligence in attacking....makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

yeah, about the same for Rep vs Dem, too.

Which club did you go to? And the 1am law is state wide. Can't even purchase alcohol @ a store past 1.

well we went to club Naked the first night, thinking it might be a strip club or something, but later found out it was a gay bar that night. then we went to this place that looks like an old church or something, and in the lower area its 18 and older, and upstarirs its 21 and older.

the next night i forget the name of the first place we went, but it ended up being gay night there too. then we went to Pool Junkies, i think that was the name.

all in all its just a dead city as far as night life, which is what we were looking for at that time.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: Drizzy
dumbass lost. lol

You are flamebait but I take it you voted in someone who has an SAT of 1170 and a C average? I am confused as to what standard you are using to measure intelligence.

What the hell does your SAT or GPA have to do with being our president?

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

yeah, about the same for Rep vs Dem, too.

Which club did you go to? And the 1am law is state wide. Can't even purchase alcohol @ a store past 1.

well we went to club Naked the first night, thinking it might be a strip club or something, but later found out it was a gay bar that night. then we went to this place that looks like an old church or something, and in the lower area its 18 and older, and upstarirs its 21 and older.

the next night i forget the name of the first place we went, but it ended up being gay night there too. then we went to Pool Junkies, i think that was the name.

all in all its just a dead city as far as night life, which is what we were looking for at that time.

The church looking place is probably what used to be called "The Bay", but I think it's called something else now.

Shoulda hit Area 51 if you're into the dance club stuff.

 

[NissanGurl]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: shenaniganz

Originally posted by: aylanl4

Originally posted by: Mwilding
good for him - It's better to be a graceful loser than to drag the inevitable out and further divide the nation...

Kinda like Bush did 4 years ago right??

Bush was the one who drug out the inevitable???

YUP (early declarations said Gore had Florida, then Bush cried about it)

Wow, in one post you b!tch about how the late voters vote won't get counted. Then you b!tch when every last vote was counted in Florida and they didn't rely on the polls.

Hypocrit.

Wow, some real teeth and claws showing here. I stated that I WANTED the votes to count in Ohio, not that I was saying they wouldn't be. That has to do with encouraging return voters. I NEVER b!tched about the Florida thing. I said that it was the Bush side that started the unclarity in Florida, not that all the votes weren't counted. I want all votes counted. I'm not disputing any relusts, just trying to make sure that the process stays intact. I'm not for or against GOP/DEM. I base voting on a per candidate basis. So you can back off on calling people hippocrits.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: shenaniganz

Originally posted by: aylanl4

Originally posted by: Mwilding
good for him - It's better to be a graceful loser than to drag the inevitable out and further divide the nation...

Kinda like Bush did 4 years ago right??

Bush was the one who drug out the inevitable???

YUP (early declarations said Gore had Florida, then Bush cried about it)

um. left slanted news organizations using flimsy exit polls to declare a wrong winner isn't a reason to concede. as the actual votes were counted and the true winner was shown, it was obvious gore wasn't winning ANYTHING. but hey, if you really want to look stupid, keep posting.

As I recall Gore WON the POPULAR vote. I'm not saying that the whole recount was the right way to go. I was stating that of the two it was the bush side that started raising counting issues first. But I like how you go straight for a personal intelligence in attacking....makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

As I recall, the popular vote doesn't determine the winner. Bush didn't ask for a recount THE STATE OF FLORIDA DID.
"Florida state law provided for an automatic recount due to the small margins. There were general concerns about the fairness and accuracy of the voting process, especially since a small change in the vote count could change the result. The final (and disputed) official Florida count gave the victory to Bush by 537 votes, making it the tightest race of the campaign (at least in percentage terms; New Mexico was decided by 363 votes but has a much smaller population, meaning those 363 votes represent a 0.061% difference while the 537 votes in Florida are just 0.009%).

Quit re-writting history to make yourself feel warm and fuzzy inside.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Beau
wow. that post of mine got really fucked[/b] up. Can't even edit it.

guess nested tags don't work very well here....


What I meant to say to EA was:

isn't it great to see our votes NOT meaning a damn thing?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...tes/UT/P/00/index.html

dude where in utah do you live? i went to salt lake city this past weekend and that place sucks! there is NOTHING to do there and its so boring! thank god the people from my company I went with were cool.

Just past Park City in a town called Heber. It's about 40 minutes from SLC. SLC's not too bad, you just have to know where to go

there IS no where to go! we stayed at the marriot. we went out saturday night and sunday night, and each night the first place we went to had a cover, and before we paid for the cover we were told the places were havnig GAY NIGHT that night, by the cashiers, so we gladly left. then we went to another place and found out they stop serving alcohol at like 1, which is ridiculous!

we heard from a local that the place is 75% mormon. we figured the other 25% are homosexuals.

yeah, about the same for Rep vs Dem, too.

Which club did you go to? And the 1am law is state wide. Can't even purchase alcohol @ a store past 1.

well we went to club Naked the first night, thinking it might be a strip club or something, but later found out it was a gay bar that night. then we went to this place that looks like an old church or something, and in the lower area its 18 and older, and upstarirs its 21 and older.

the next night i forget the name of the first place we went, but it ended up being gay night there too. then we went to Pool Junkies, i think that was the name.

all in all its just a dead city as far as night life, which is what we were looking for at that time.

The church looking place is probably what used to be called "The Bay", but I think it's called something else now.

Shoulda hit Area 51 if you're into the dance club stuff.

actually I think that Area 51 MIGHT have been the name of the place we went to when it was gay night on sunday. cause that sounds familiar.

 

[Eli]

All of you just shut the fsck up.

lol

Congrats Bush, you won again. The people have spoken. Here's to another 4 years. :beer:

Just knowing that half the population is against him is good enough for me. I guess this is why we have a maximum of 8 years in office.

The real question is, who the fsck are we going to vote for in 2008? :Q

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: NissanGurl
Wow, some real teeth and claws showing here. I stated that I WANTED the votes to count in Ohio, not that I was saying they wouldn't be. That has to do with encouraging return voters. I NEVER b!tched about the Florida thing. I said that it was the Bush side that started the unclarity in Florida, not that all the votes weren't counted. I want all votes counted. I'm not disputing any relusts, just trying to make sure that the process stays intact. I'm not for or against GOP/DEM. I base voting on a per candidate basis. So you can back off on calling people hippocrits.

I call them as I see them, perhaps I'm misunderstanding these two statements.

That is absurd. The votes should be counted. It may not make a difference in the outcome, but at least people will be encouraged that their vote was counted.

Meaning you want every vote counted. I agree.

Bush was the one who drug out the inevitable???

You replied.

YUP (early declarations said Gore had Florida, then Bush cried about it)

Meaning you think Bush should have given up because "declarations said Gore," well, what about counting every vote? When every vote was counted Bush won.

 

[NissanGurl]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: NissanGurl

Originally posted by: shenaniganz

Originally posted by: aylanl4

Originally posted by: Mwilding
good for him - It's better to be a graceful loser than to drag the inevitable out and further divide the nation...

Kinda like Bush did 4 years ago right??

Bush was the one who drug out the inevitable???

YUP (early declarations said Gore had Florida, then Bush cried about it)

um. left slanted news organizations using flimsy exit polls to declare a wrong winner isn't a reason to concede. as the actual votes were counted and the true winner was shown, it was obvious gore wasn't winning ANYTHING. but hey, if you really want to look stupid, keep posting.

As I recall Gore WON the POPULAR vote. I'm not saying that the whole recount was the right way to go. I was stating that of the two it was the bush side that started raising counting issues first. But I like how you go straight for a personal intelligence in attacking....makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

As I recall, the popular vote doesn't determine the winner. Bush didn't ask for a recount THE STATE OF FLORIDA DID.
"Florida state law provided for an automatic recount due to the small margins. There were general concerns about the fairness and accuracy of the voting process, especially since a small change in the vote count could change the result. The final (and disputed) official Florida count gave the victory to Bush by 537 votes, making it the tightest race of the campaign (at least in percentage terms; New Mexico was decided by 363 votes but has a much smaller population, meaning those 363 votes represent a 0.061% difference while the 537 votes in Florida are just 0.009%).

Quit re-writting history to make yourself feel warm and fuzzy inside.

This is y threads like this are in P&N. No matter what you say there will be someone that will step up and say the exact opposite. If you want to dispute what the OP was about feel free. I'll let you have your opinion, that's the beauty of this country. This thread has taken a vicious turn since everyone is taking the election so personally. I believe in the country and the process, if not the people we choose to place in power. I'll stand behind a final result, but I'm not going to continue a pointless discussion.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Eli

The real question is, who the fsck are we going to vote for in 2008? :Q

Hillary. She's just as polarizing to the Republicans as Bush is to the Democrats.

Truth be told, I don't think that Republicans hate Kerry NEARLY as much as they hate Hillary. She's far more of a polarizing figure...just as Bush is.