Keyboard with great "Anti-ghosting capability"

Saiyajin

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Mar 18, 2009
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Hey
I'm trying locating some keyboards which can detect at least 8 key presses simultaneously, my current MS Reclusa only do 6 keys, Sadly most brands don't enlighten this much in their specifications.

I yet know Razer Tarantula can do 10 keys at once but bit pricy if you ask me. I'm looking for something below 100 usd that's current is to find on the market.

I did not found the sticky that helpful.
Thanks.
 

bunnyfubbles

Lifer
Sep 3, 2001
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Hey
I'm trying locating some keyboards which can detect at least 8 key presses simultaneously, my current MS Reclusa only do 6 keys, Sadly most brands don't enlighten this much in their specifications.

I yet know Razer Tarantula can do 10 keys at once but bit pricy if you ask me. I'm looking for something below 100 usd that's current is to find on the market.

I did not found the sticky that helpful.
Thanks.
The Tarantula is old and discontinued, and its 10KRO is a fabrication of the truth. Its 6KRO + 4 modifier keys (I can grab my old Tarantula right now to verify with: http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/content/projects/KeyboardGhostingDemo.aspx). Almost all keyboards will allow up to 6 simultaneous key presses when considering modifier keys like shift and ctrl, however most are only 2KRO (ie when any potential 3-key combination fails)

I have a Logitech G15 and it can recognize 8 keys, probably more but 8 is all I tried.
Yes, perhaps it can, but which 8? I'm pretty sure the G15 has been confirmed to be only 2KRO where there are certain 3-key combinations that will fail. That being said I'm pretty sure for the most part the G15 will not live up to the OP's expectations if he really needs more than 6 non-modifier keys pressed at the same time.

Your options are all listed there, then it's just a question of which of them you find under $100.
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=NKey+Rollover+-+Overview+Testing+Methodology+and+Results

I'd personally try to find just a little more budget, and go for the Leopold FC200R which is $109 at elitekeyboards.

There's also the Noppo Choc Mini but that is going to push the $100 envelope as well.

Best solution for the OP that I can think of is the Microsoft Sidewinder X4, should run just over $50 and will easily do 8KRO (physical limit is something like 18-26KRO over USB)
 

Pia

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There's also the Noppo Choc Mini but that is going to push the $100 envelope as well.
Wow, that one looks really good. I wonder why I haven't noticed it before. The layout looks nearly optimal, in fact.

I like my Happy Hacking membrane board, but the lack of individual function keys is a real drawback, and it doesn't improve the ergonomics to leave them out.

I don't like the individual home/end/pgup/pgdn on the Noppoo layout. The Happy Hacking layout has them on fn+arrow keys, with fn on the lower left corner where you usually have control. That actually feels faster than using a regular layout's individual key block above arrow keys, plus the board is just a tiny bit more symmetrical and ergonomic.

I'd be reluctant to buy the Noppoo for myself, because it apparently doesn't work with Macs.
Best solution for the OP that I can think of is the Microsoft Sidewinder X4, should run just over $50 and will easily do 8KRO (physical limit is something like 18-26KRO over USB)
Well, that would work but when it only costs an extra $50 to get a *great* keyboard instead of a ho-hum one...
 

bunnyfubbles

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I've heard great things about the X4, and from fellow mechanical snobs no less (supposedly pretty good for a rubber dome)

Personally I could never go back to something larger than a tenkeyless (or perhaps a really compact fullsize) but it really is hard to beat the price and feature-set of the X4, sometimes budgets simply cannot flex.
 

Saiyajin

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Mar 18, 2009
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Apologies my late reply.

Thank you guys for informative answers. Really appreciate your help!!!

Have noticed Tarantula is old, although it seems I could still grab one locally if I had too. However I DO need 8 non-modifier keys. If neither this one or G15 will do, I can simply forget those. The X4 might be more the product I'm looking for.
 

Ben90

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If you need 8 non-modifier key roll over, you need something with either a custom protocol over USB or PS2.

Technically its possible to get NKRO with USB, but generally 6 key is the max without modifiers.
 

bunnyfubbles

Lifer
Sep 3, 2001
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Apologies my late reply.

Thank you guys for informative answers. Really appreciate your help!!!

Have noticed Tarantula is old, although it seems I could still grab one locally if I had too. However I DO need 8 non-modifier keys. If neither this one or G15 will do, I can simply forget those. The X4 might be more the product I'm looking for.

yup, the Tarantula will only do up to 6 non modifier keys at once (as it is bound by traditional USB limitations as Ben90 pointed out), and the G15 will also only at best be able to have 6 simultaneous non modifier keys but will more likely fail beyond 3 or 4 for most combinations (and in some cases only manage 2KRO)

IIRC only the old PS/2 interface is truly capable of true NKRO, meaning every key on a capable keyboard can be simultaneously pressed and each and every one register. I have 3 such capable keyboards (a tenkeyless Filco Majestouch 2, SteelSeries 6Gv2, and a Cherry G80-3494), each are capable of NKRO over PS/2 although are limited to 6KRO over USB. Granted, the cheapest of these is the 6Gv2 @ $99 MSRP.

the X4 uses clever trickery (that a few other keyboards have since started to use) to achieve its ~18KRO ability over USB
 
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