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Originally posted by: palehorse74 We have been welcomed into homes for tea... witnessed new schools being built...seen wells dug, and perhaps most importantly, we have seen children run toward us with smiles the size and brightness of suns; always ready with a hug!


Right there....Ohhhh...but we can't use DEADLY FORCE....we can't use DEADLY FORCE cause these kids are nice........not like that @#$@$^ rock coulda killed me or him

Looks like your fellow soldiers aren't having the luck you had

sarcasm on
If only they had authorization, there would be several less kids with rocks to worry about

The cycle goes on


 

Looney

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

If a foreign nation invaded your country, how would you treat them?

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: BBond
Speaking of making a bad situation worse...

U.S. troops raid Sunni clerics' Iraq office

U.S. troops, some in helicopters, launched a pre-dawn raid on Sunday on the headquarters of the influential Sunni Arab Muslim Clerics' Association and detained six people in what they said was an anti-terrorist operation.

An association spokesman slammed the raid as a "crime" to punish his group for its stand toward the U.S.-led occupation.

Witnesses said American soldiers slid down ropes from helicopters as troops on the ground simultaneously burst into the Umm al-Qora mosque complex in western Baghdad at 3 a.m. (0000 GMT), blowing doors off hinges and ransacking offices.

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In one room, cupboards used to store the shoes of those attending prayers had what appeared to be Christian crosses scrawled on them. Other footage showed papers strewn on office floors and windows smashed.

How would Americans feel if a superior Muslim force attacked a church, smashed windows and painted the crescent and star inside? Does this really sound like a good idea for Americans to be doing this with crosses in Iraqi mosques?

As for killing children, just check out the last nearly three years of news from Iraq. We've killed plenty of children already.

And all for a lie.

"In one room, cupboards used to store the shoes of those attending prayers had what appeared to be Christian crosses scrawled on them. Other footage showed papers strewn on office floors and windows smashed. "

Those soldiers are making this into a religious war when they fail to realize not everyone in their own military is a Christian.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

That's BS. They may have hated America, but not enough to strap bombs to themselves. You've created this situation. Lets say hindsight is not always perfect, ok, so it's done. But the fact that you're still so blind to what you're creating, makes it inexcusable. Everytime a kid father's die from 'collateral' damage, how do you think that kid is going to grow up to be? A kid had somewhat a normal life before, went to school, didn't have fear of dying, had food, even if he didn't understand how bad Saddam was... but now, he's not in school because it's blown up, he has to watch out for suicide bombers, and his father is out of work so there's little food, how is he going to perceive the world?

Yeah, invading Iraq has really made the world a safer place. When was the last time Jordan had a suicide bomber before the invasion? You really think Iraq was a threat to the US? That they were going to attack the US, or commit terrorist attacks? You're a MORON if you believe so. But how likely is that going to be now?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.


US-Israeli relations never hurt anything in that area huh? As well, when you consider the evidence that most terrorist/insurgents/enemy soldiers are comming from Iran/Saudi Arabia/Egypt ect, the fact remains this is is the collomation of many decades of hate, the only difference is that now they can strike the US because the US is in there home, not seperated by a massive ocean and a another continent. I am sure if they had the capabilities to actually attack america (see 9/11 whe they were able to) everyday they would have. The major difference between now and than? America is easily accessible, and you are able to attack relatively easily.
 

MCsommerreid

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The US needs a new PR guy.

Most of the violence in Iraq now is being caused not by the invasion its self, but by the handling of the occupation and rebuilding after "Mission Accomplished". Far as things go this was a very sucessful war, with almost no deaths in the actual war part against Saddam. All you used to hear about was celebrating in the streets when Saddam was toppled and the statues torn down, and when Sadamm captured and his sons killed.

And then the trouble started. What was failed to be realised was that Iraq was a very religous nation, and thus should have been handled as such with respect to the religions and trying to get them to cooperate. Instead it was just brute forced so every extreemist was able to come out of the woodwork and do whatever it is they wanted to do.

This continued untill everyone said "Hey, there were none of these people doing anything untill the US showed up. It's the US's fault!!". Turned what was probably a rather US friendly nation into one that isn't just by a few simple slip ups that spiraled out of controll.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.


US-Israeli relations never hurt anything in that area huh? As well, when you consider the evidence that most terrorist/insurgents/enemy soldiers are comming from Iran/Saudi Arabia/Egypt ect, the fact remains this is is the collomation of many decades of hate, the only difference is that now they can strike the US because the US is in there home, not seperated by a massive ocean and a another continent. I am sure if they had the capabilities to actually attack america (see 9/11 whe they were able to) everyday they would have. The major difference between now and than? America is easily accessible, and you are able to attack relatively easily.

Nice list.

90%+ of them are from Saudi Arabia. The other 9.9% are from Syria/Jordan, etc.

None of them are Iranians or from Turkey. I won't say none in fact I shouldn't There is always one or two crazy people in a group. Anyways, Both those nations have a population of 60-70 million people. Every other nation surrounding Iraq doesn't even come close to having that large of a population yet the majority of foreign insurgents come from those small countries.

Where were the 9/11 terrorist from? Saudi Arabia.

Key Word: Saudi Arabia.

Muslim Population: 1.5 Billion
Saudi Arabia Population: 20 million? (I am too lazy to look it up)
 

MCsommerreid

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.


US-Israeli relations never hurt anything in that area huh? As well, when you consider the evidence that most terrorist/insurgents/enemy soldiers are comming from Iran/Saudi Arabia/Egypt ect, the fact remains this is is the collomation of many decades of hate, the only difference is that now they can strike the US because the US is in there home, not seperated by a massive ocean and a another continent. I am sure if they had the capabilities to actually attack america (see 9/11 whe they were able to) everyday they would have. The major difference between now and than? America is easily accessible, and you are able to attack relatively easily.

Nice list.

90%+ of them are from Saudi Arabia. The other 9.9% are from Syria/Jordan, etc.

None of them are Iranians or from Turkey. I won't say none in fact I shouldn't There is always one or two crazy people in a group. Anyways, Both those nations have a population of 60-70 million people. Every other nation surrounding Iraq doesn't even come close to having that large of a population yet the majority of foreign insurgents come from those small countries.

Where were the 9/11 terrorist from? Saudi Arabia.

Key Word: Saudi Arabia.

Muslim Population: 1.5 Billion
Saudi Arabia Population: 20 million? (I am too lazy to look it up)

26,417,599 including non-nationals, 21ish discluding them.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.


US-Israeli relations never hurt anything in that area huh? As well, when you consider the evidence that most terrorist/insurgents/enemy soldiers are comming from Iran/Saudi Arabia/Egypt ect, the fact remains this is is the collomation of many decades of hate, the only difference is that now they can strike the US because the US is in there home, not seperated by a massive ocean and a another continent. I am sure if they had the capabilities to actually attack america (see 9/11 whe they were able to) everyday they would have. The major difference between now and than? America is easily accessible, and you are able to attack relatively easily.

Nice list.

90%+ of them are from Saudi Arabia. The other 9.9% are from Syria/Jordan, etc.

None of them are Iranians or from Turkey. I won't say none in fact I shouldn't There is always one or two crazy people in a group. Anyways, Both those nations have a population of 60-70 million people. Every other nation surrounding Iraq doesn't even come close to having that large of a population yet the majority of foreign insurgents come from those small countries.

Where were the 9/11 terrorist from? Saudi Arabia.

Key Word: Saudi Arabia.

Muslim Population: 1.5 Billion
Saudi Arabia Population: 20 million? (I am too lazy to look it up)


How does that defute my point that the US was hated before 9/11, and now it is easier to attack them (they are next foor) than it was before? On another point for the people who say Iraq never hated the US, do you honestly not think the Iraq people were not made aware of the sanctions on there country from the "evil America".?
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.


Well it wasn't blind hatered, they only had to look around for their houses and folks and do the math, I am not saying they are doing the right thing here, but they just said to themselves one day that they want to take a position, rather than just sitting in their houses and dying. I am not sure how our country's youth would deal with it if the US was invaded and everything is rubbel.

Bottom line they are just young boys and they feel sorry for their country and they are looking at things in a very basic way and reached the conclusioin that those soldiers are part of what caused their country to go down the toilet.

 

Stunt

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So the insurgents are breeding a new generation of anti-freedom fighters...great!
 

Looney

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How does that defute my point that the US was hated before 9/11, and now it is easier to attack them (they are next foor) than it was before? On another point for the people who say Iraq never hated the US, do you honestly not think the Iraq people were not made aware of the sanctions on there country from the "evil America".?

How many Iraqis killed Americans prior to the invasion? And how many Iraqis have killed Americans post invasion?
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Looney
How does that defute my point that the US was hated before 9/11, and now it is easier to attack them (they are next foor) than it was before? On another point for the people who say Iraq never hated the US, do you honestly not think the Iraq people were not made aware of the sanctions on there country from the "evil America".?

How many Iraqis killed Americans prior to the invasion? And how many Iraqis have killed Americans post invasion?

Umm...... at what in the world did you have a couple hundred thousand americans in the very middle on Iraq at a time when the entire country was lawless and countless live amo shells were lying around...oh wait...right now!. Or did the miss the whole point Ive reinterated a few times...its easier to attack americans now that they are right there.

 

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Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
The US needs a new PR guy.

America breeds these people and then declares them its enemy.....

OBL and Saddam were buddies with the US when the US needed them. After the US need finished, they were left unchecked and became enemies.

Whose the new Iraqi guy the US is backing in Iraq? Bet you, in 10-20 years, he would be declared an enemy of the US when he gets tired of being the puppet.....
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.


Well it wasn't blind hatered, they only had to look around for their houses and folks and do the math, I am not saying they are doing the right thing here, but they just said to themselves one day that they want to take a position, rather than just sitting in their houses and dying. I am not sure how our country's youth would deal with it if the US was invaded and everything is rubbel.

Bottom line they are just young boys and they feel sorry for their country and they are looking at things in a very basic way and reached the conclusioin that those soldiers are part of what caused their country to go down the toilet.
I just wish you were less of a coward.

Adding things like the underlined statement doesn't fool me, or anyone else with a brain.

Get a spine.
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Talk to me when the U.S. gets invaded by foreign forces. You gonna lay down like a little girl and cry? Or are you gonna fight back. Me, I'll be fighting like a pit bull. To each his own I guess. At least you're honest, sweetie.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Aimster
killing innocent kids because they throw rocks is barbaric.

This is why this soldier is not in charge of calling the shots.

They aren't innocent if they're throwing rocks...I still don't think they should be shooting them though.
 

MCsommerreid

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Originally posted by: asadasif
Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
The US needs a new PR guy.

America breeds these people and then declares them its enemy.....

OBL and Saddam were buddies with the US when the US needed them. After the US need finished, they were left unchecked and became enemies.

Whose the new Iraqi guy the US is backing in Iraq? Bet you, in 10-20 years, he would be declared an enemy of the US when he gets tired of being the puppet.....

More like the US needs to stop choosing to ally with such crappy people. Osama and Saddam were just as nuts 20 years ago as they are now, but 20 years ago they were usefull in fighting Communism or Iran, and now they're fighting the next big thing: America.
 

Meuge

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Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
Originally posted by: asadasif
Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
The US needs a new PR guy.

America breeds these people and then declares them its enemy.....

OBL and Saddam were buddies with the US when the US needed them. After the US need finished, they were left unchecked and became enemies.

Whose the new Iraqi guy the US is backing in Iraq? Bet you, in 10-20 years, he would be declared an enemy of the US when he gets tired of being the puppet.....

More like the US needs to stop choosing to ally with such crappy people. Osama and Saddam were just as nuts 20 years ago as they are now, but 20 years ago they were usefull in fighting Communism or Iran, and now they're fighting the next big thing: America.

That's cause you think that the world works the way you see in movies.

There are no enemies and no allies, only common or competing interests.
 

MCsommerreid

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
Originally posted by: asadasif
Originally posted by: MCsommerreid
The US needs a new PR guy.

America breeds these people and then declares them its enemy.....

OBL and Saddam were buddies with the US when the US needed them. After the US need finished, they were left unchecked and became enemies.

Whose the new Iraqi guy the US is backing in Iraq? Bet you, in 10-20 years, he would be declared an enemy of the US when he gets tired of being the puppet.....

More like the US needs to stop choosing to ally with such crappy people. Osama and Saddam were just as nuts 20 years ago as they are now, but 20 years ago they were usefull in fighting Communism or Iran, and now they're fighting the next big thing: America.

That's cause you think that the world works the way you see in movies.

There are no enemies and no allies, only common or competing interests.

True, but aftermath should be minimised in cases where members of more extreme groups are concerned. Meddling should always be done fully to protect future interests as well.
 

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.

Well, the kids do live in THEIR country being occupied by foreign forces. What should they throw . . . roses and halaqeem? It's not like the kids can engage in much dialogue b/c the undocumented aliens don't know the local language.


Meh..more suicide by armed forces, become a martyr go to heaven, woot woot, go Islam!! :roll:

You're creating these 'martyrs'. When they grow up to start throwing grenades and strapping bombs to themselves, you're going to wonder how it came to be. And it's easy, it's happening because of now. Without the invasion, these kids would grow up to hate Saddam, not America.

The middle east hated America already, it is the great evil remember. The hate didn't start on 9/11

I don't think the people of Iraq hated America.

There is no evidence to suggest they hated America.

If anything Iraq was a silent country that was forced to do whatever their leader wanted them to do.


US-Israeli relations never hurt anything in that area huh? As well, when you consider the evidence that most terrorist/insurgents/enemy soldiers are comming from Iran/Saudi Arabia/Egypt ect, the fact remains this is is the collomation of many decades of hate, the only difference is that now they can strike the US because the US is in there home, not seperated by a massive ocean and a another continent. I am sure if they had the capabilities to actually attack america (see 9/11 whe they were able to) everyday they would have. The major difference between now and than? America is easily accessible, and you are able to attack relatively easily.



That isn't true. Most of the insurgents in Iraq are locals.
 

tommywishbone

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If America is ever invaded & occupied by a hostile military force and I am killed, I hope the very least my children do is throw rocks at the people who killed me. Why would anyone expect anything less?

If we leave their country, maybe they won't throw rocks at us anymore, or perhaps Herr Bushler will say they are planning to come over here and throw their rocks.
 

The Linuxator

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Originally posted by: Meuge
Originally posted by: The Linuxator
Originally posted by: Meuge
You can be killed with a rock... especially if it turns out to be a frag grenade. But do you realize that what's more revolting is the incredibly blind hatred and utter stupidity that leads a teenager to grab a rock and run up to heavily armed soldiers to throw it at them. Talk about teenage complex of invincibility.


Well it wasn't blind hatered, they only had to look around for their houses and folks and do the math, I am not saying they are doing the right thing here, but they just said to themselves one day that they want to take a position, rather than just sitting in their houses and dying. I am not sure how our country's youth would deal with it if the US was invaded and everything is rubbel.

Bottom line they are just young boys and they feel sorry for their country and they are looking at things in a very basic way and reached the conclusioin that those soldiers are part of what caused their country to go down the toilet.
I just wish you were less of a coward.

Adding things like the underlined statement doesn't fool me, or anyone else with a brain.

Get a spine.

You can underline whatever you want to underline. Calling me a coward ??
I'll tell you who is the coward, the coward is the one who is willing to let thousands of innocent civillians here in the states and hundreds of thousands of innocent civillians in the Middle East DIE for the sake of Israel and it's disguised goals, I am never and will never be pushed back by Zionist hypocrites such as yourself, you want to support all this BS ? Don't bother replying I will PM you the info for the nearest USAA recruting center if you want to. Go there and prove it to me that you are a brave man, let's see how loyal you really are for Israel and it's PWNS.

I said it before and I will repeat, what is happening in Iraq nowadays is nothing but a series of barbaric acts, but the Iraqis are not the ones to blame for all of that, at least they are fighting for what they think is right , the question is, are you up for the challenge and go fight for what you believe is right ?? I don't think so.
 
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