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Shelly21

Diamond Member
May 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Shelly21
I just finish building the meat car for my main character. and the other character is making delicious spicy noodles for my main char.

that is multi-abuse. You cannot swap items between your own chars for gain.



Well, not really, I gave all the parts to my pasta chef, he cooks it and give it back to the original owner.

The meat car is differnt, I cheated.

But I don't think they're going to crack down on that anytime soon, because it is beta and they don't have time to catch everyone, there's even a thread on it.
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
14,644
10
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Hmm, will have to try again, I have put 10 in at a time, but only got like 20ish points...
 

Coquito

Diamond Member
Nov 30, 2003
8,559
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As a low lvl, quest outside of the gym every opportunity you can. You'll need those goodies to buy stuff later on.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
83,769
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Shelly21
I just finish building the meat car for my main character. and the other character is making delicious spicy noodles for my main char.

that is multi-abuse. You cannot swap items between your own chars for gain.

Is multi-playing against the rules?

You can multiplay....there is no real limit on the number of chars you can have. However you cannot move things between any of them per the rules....whether it's ingredients one cooks or meat another makes.

Sure people are doing it (shelly), but it's still cheating.

It *will* be cracked down on in the non-beta.
 

Swag1138

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Shelly21
I just finish building the meat car for my main character. and the other character is making delicious spicy noodles for my main char.

that is multi-abuse. You cannot swap items between your own chars for gain.

Is multi-playing against the rules?

You can multiplay....there is no real limit on the number of chars you can have. However you cannot move things between any of them per the rules....whether it's ingredients one cooks or meat another makes.

Sure people are doing it (shelly), but it's still cheating.

It *will* be cracked down on in the non-beta.



Its not the passing of items between characters thats bad. What that rule is against is "item farming" with characters. Just using characters to go for items to pass to your main character, starting a mystic just to cast spells on your main character, ect....

Sending noodles to a chef, and having the chef send back pasta is not cheating. Its part of the game. There are people who will make food for you if you give them the ingredients, and charge nothing, so how would it be against the rules to do that between your own characters?
 

Stark

Diamond Member
Jun 16, 2000
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for some items, you almost have to have multiple characters to make them. The asbestos helmet turtle was the biggest pain... the clubber had to smith the asbestos meat stack, then the turtle tamer had to add the helmet turtle... and they could only do each task after being trained at the brotherhood of the smackdown... and the training is only available to them when they hit lvl5.

but i finally got it and beat the daily dungeon that day.

Has anyone figure out what item is best to use against the cold? I figured out smell and heat, but cold always getts me.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Swag1138

Its not the passing of items between characters thats bad. What that rule is against is "item farming" with characters. Just using characters to go for items to pass to your main character, starting a mystic just to cast spells on your main character, ect....

Sending noodles to a chef, and having the chef send back pasta is not cheating. Its part of the game. There are people who will make food for you if you give them the ingredients, and charge nothing, so how would it be against the rules to do that between your own characters?

Wrong...I don't need to argue this with you as you obviously didn't read the policy and if you did you are clueless.

You absolutely CANNOT use a multi to benefit another in anyway. Transfer of meat, items, spells, etc are forbidden.
 

Swag1138

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2000
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4. Don't abuse multis.

This is a tricky one. It's not against the rules to have more than one character per household, or per computer, or even per person. What is against the rules, however, is to have a bunch of extra characters that act as item or Meat farmers for your main character.

It's also against the rules to have a bunch of extra characters that form a clan, for the purposes of getting discounted beer, foties, and stat boosters.

Here's a yardstick: If your main character is advancing at a rate faster than would be possible without multis, then you're more than likely in violation of this rule.

If you're abusing multis, and your behavior is noticed, all accounts other than what appears to be your primary will be disabled. If you make a bunch more multis and start doing it again, your primary will be disabled.

It is especially against the rules, and makes me really angry, if you keep creating new accounts, using their initial 80 adventures, sending all of the stuff to your primary and then deleting the account. This action will result in the IMMEDIATE deactivation of all of your accounts, and potentially in your IP being banned. DO NOT DO THIS.

Nowhere in there does it state that you cannot send components of items to another character to have that character make food/equipment/drinks for you. In fact, nowhere in there does it say that you cant give one of your characters an item. All it says is that you cant create mutiple characters to benefit ONLY your main character, and that you cant create a bunch of multis to form your own clan.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Swag1138

Nowhere in there does it state that you cannot send components of items to another character to have that character make food/equipment/drinks for you. In fact, nowhere in there does it say that you cant give one of your characters an item. All it says is that you cant create mutiple characters to benefit ONLY your main character, and that you cant create a bunch of multis to form your own clan.

Damn you are dense. Tell you what go on KOL chat and explain you claim to fame, send an email to Jick and let him know what you are doing and how you thank him for making it so easy for you.

Give yourself a pat on the back for helping our high schools get F's on the FCAT.

yay you!
 

Swag1138

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Swag1138
Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy
The gym seems a waste as you only get 1-2 points/turn.

I often get 5 or 6.

Yeah, it depends on your level. I often get close to 20 a turn.

What level are you? Christ that's a buttload!


I put in 8 turns, got 100 smarm. Im just a level 7. I exaggerated with the often thing. I usually hit closer to 9/10

Maybe I hit a bug?
 

Swag1138

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Swag1138

Nowhere in there does it state that you cannot send components of items to another character to have that character make food/equipment/drinks for you. In fact, nowhere in there does it say that you cant give one of your characters an item. All it says is that you cant create mutiple characters to benefit ONLY your main character, and that you cant create a bunch of multis to form your own clan.

Damn you are dense. Tell you what go on KOL chat and explain you claim to fame, send an email to Jick and let him know what you are doing and how you thank him for making it so easy for you.

Give yourself a pat on the back for helping our high schools get F's on the FCAT.

yay you!



Nice, very nice. Care to point out to me exactly where it says you cant trade items between your characters?
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Swag1138

Nice, very nice. Care to point out to me exactly where it says you cant trade items between your characters?

Well if you are gaining more advancement or meat via the trade it is multi abuse. The fact is it's pretty hard to justify any interaction between self owned chars that don't cause one or the other to benefit.

Like I said go on chat and explain what you are trying to accomplish and prepare to be flamed.
 

Chu

Banned
Jan 2, 2001
2,911
0
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About the whole meat thing, I'm tempted to drop $10 on a Mr. A and trade it in for 4M meat. I know people are doing this since Mr. A's are the only item that will carry over, but still, $10 for not having to worry about money seems worth it.

-Chu
 

Coquito

Diamond Member
Nov 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: Chu
About the whole meat thing, I'm tempted to drop $10 on a Mr. A and trade it in for 4M meat. I know people are doing this since Mr. A's are the only item that will carry over, but still, $10 for not having to worry about money seems worth it.

-Chu



This game is still in beta, so all that meat will disappear once the game goes official. Your Mr.A will stay with you however.


Welcome everyone to the clan. Don't go out adventuring after a long night of boozing, or you'll be asking for trouble.
 

Chu

Banned
Jan 2, 2001
2,911
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Originally posted by: Coquito
Originally posted by: Chu
About the whole meat thing, I'm tempted to drop $10 on a Mr. A and trade it in for 4M meat. I know people are doing this since Mr. A's are the only item that will carry over, but still, $10 for not having to worry about money seems worth it.

-Chu



This game is still in beta, so all that meat will disappear once the game goes official. Your Mr.A will stay with you however.


Welcome everyone to the clan. Don't go out adventuring after a long night of boozing, or you'll be asking for trouble.

Here is my philosophy. One Mr A. goes for 4M. 4M is enough for 5,706 strength potions, which should be about 25,000 "strength" points. With that boost I should be able to ascend within the time we have left to do it, since the ascention items carry over. Then I can just drop another $10 on a Mr. A for myself

-Chu
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Chu

Here is my philosophy. One Mr A. goes for 4M. 4M is enough for 5,706 strength potions, which should be about 25,000 "strength" points. With that boost I should be able to ascend within the time we have left to do it, since the ascention items carry over. Then I can just drop another $10 on a Mr. A for myself

-Chu

a firecracker is about 1500, you need 5 for one gourd. You need 3 in the beginning for a point and then it goes to 4, then probably 5.

4000000/1500 = about 2700 gourds, which equal 2700/5 ~ 533 uses which give 533/3.5 ~ 152 muscle points.

You get about 89k muscularity 'points' from this.

Å
 

Chu

Banned
Jan 2, 2001
2,911
0
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Chu

Here is my philosophy. One Mr A. goes for 4M. 4M is enough for 5,706 strength potions, which should be about 25,000 "strength" points. With that boost I should be able to ascend within the time we have left to do it, since the ascention items carry over. Then I can just drop another $10 on a Mr. A for myself

-Chu

a firecracker is about 1500, you need 5 for one gourd. You need 3 in the beginning for a point and then it goes to 4, then probably 5.

4000000/1500 = about 2700 gourds, which equal 2700/5 ~ 533 uses which give 533/3.5 ~ 152 muscle points.

You get about 89k muscularity 'points' from this.

Å

That takes way too much time though, BuggyBear sells strength potions at 701 each.
 
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