Lamar back to the lakers!

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

And they also won a title with Vujacic and Farmar. That doesn't mean anything. Artest is a great player and having him only helps them defensively and with toughness which EVERYONE knows they need. Why would Kobe get mad? Kobe and Artest and friends. I think everyone here forgets this.

Ariza only played well in the playoffs. Not even a proven player.

Vujacic and Farmar were not anywhere near the top 4 guys on the team. Ariza was. Argument doesn't work.

Friendship doesn't mean shit when they step on the court. Artest is certifiably insane and he WILL sulk and his already slowing D will suffer even more when he doesn't get to chuck shots up. And guess what? Kobe will not let him lay bricks all night just to make him happy. Ariza played D regardless and didn't need 30 shots a game to be happy. He was also a killer from 3pt in the playoffs, you will not get that with Artest

Ariza only played well during the playoffs. He's not a proven player. Who knows if he'll even be a consistent good player. The Lakers made the logical choice in getting the proven player to get a championship NOW which is what they need. They cannot wait for Ariza to get better. Kobe doesn't have the time to wait.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

This - Artest was a bust on the Rockets, and will be so on the Lakers. He needs a lot of shots, and taking shots away from Kobe isn't going to happen. He has tunnel vision on the offensive end, and has slowed down drastically on defense. Combine that with his temper and he's someone that can be exploited - see what happened with Kobe in the playoffs.

And Odom doesn't really secure the Lakers - there's still no reliable backup big men for them. Bynum is still unproven, so who else is there?

Artest was not a bust for them on the Rockets. He's a big part of the reason why they even got the the second round which they have NEVER gotten to before.

Yah, he was - being the #2 option on the Rockets and he still couldn't match his career/peak numbers from when he was on the Pacers. Artest will never be the player that he used to be - yet people will push him like he is. Artest was never the product of a system (like Marion) - he's a skilled 1on1 player, but he freaking shot 40% last year, and 50% in his best year. The dude has slowed down, a lot.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


Hahaha. Better than this?

McDyess
Duncan
Jefferson
Ginobili
Parker

Yah, sorry ... but no. Even compared to the Celtics & Cavs lineup, that'd be questionable.

:laugh:

Oh yea, you are that delusional guy.

Lakers just won it all and got better. You can cry into your pillow all you want.

Uh, whatever dude - there's no WAY the Lakers got better this offseason compared to the moves made by the Spurs, Cavs and Celtics. Hell, the Nuggets will be amazing next year considering the amount of time Billups is going to have with that team now.

You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

And.. they were hiding Shanon Brown during the Finals intentionally to keep him out of spotlight so we could afford him.. He is gonna be a beast next year

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

And they also won a title with Vujacic and Farmar. That doesn't mean anything. Artest is a great player and having him only helps them defensively and with toughness which EVERYONE knows they need. Why would Kobe get mad? Kobe and Artest and friends. I think everyone here forgets this.

Ariza only played well in the playoffs. Not even a proven player.

Vujacic and Farmar were not anywhere near the top 4 guys on the team. Ariza was. Argument doesn't work.

Friendship doesn't mean shit when they step on the court. Artest is certifiably insane and he WILL sulk and his already slowing D will suffer even more when he doesn't get to chuck shots up. And guess what? Kobe will not let him lay bricks all night just to make him happy. Ariza played D regardless and didn't need 30 shots a game to be happy. He was also a killer from 3pt in the playoffs, you will not get that with Artest

Ariza only played well during the playoffs. He's not a proven player. Who knows if he'll even be a consistent good player. The Lakers made the logical choice in getting the proven player to get a championship NOW which is what they need. They cannot wait for Ariza to get better. Kobe doesn't have the time to wait.

mmmk, go ahead and believe the team will be better off with a slow lunatic over a 26 year old team player who just dominated the playoffs. Good move.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: ric1287


mmmk, go ahead and believe the team will be better off with a slow lunatic over a 26 year old team player who just dominated the playoffs. Good move.

I think the big key is he can defend stronger and bigger players which also frees up Kobe to do more too

Like rick Fox only with more strength and size and game

What is Artest 6'7" 260?

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

And they also won a title with Vujacic and Farmar. That doesn't mean anything. Artest is a great player and having him only helps them defensively and with toughness which EVERYONE knows they need. Why would Kobe get mad? Kobe and Artest and friends. I think everyone here forgets this.

Ariza only played well in the playoffs. Not even a proven player.

Vujacic and Farmar were not anywhere near the top 4 guys on the team. Ariza was. Argument doesn't work.

Friendship doesn't mean shit when they step on the court. Artest is certifiably insane and he WILL sulk and his already slowing D will suffer even more when he doesn't get to chuck shots up. And guess what? Kobe will not let him lay bricks all night just to make him happy. Ariza played D regardless and didn't need 30 shots a game to be happy. He was also a killer from 3pt in the playoffs, you will not get that with Artest

Ariza only played well during the playoffs. He's not a proven player. Who knows if he'll even be a consistent good player. The Lakers made the logical choice in getting the proven player to get a championship NOW which is what they need. They cannot wait for Ariza to get better. Kobe doesn't have the time to wait.

mmmk, go ahead and believe the team will be better off with a slow lunatic over a 26 year old team player who just dominated the playoffs. Good move.

You seem to be the only person I've ever hear say that Ariza is a better player. No one would agree with you. Anyone would take a proven player over a guy that only played well for 3 months out of his career.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: ric1287


mmmk, go ahead and believe the team will be better off with a slow lunatic over a 26 year old team player who just dominated the playoffs. Good move.

I think the big key is he can defend stronger and bigger players which also frees up Kobe to do more too

Like rick Fox only with more strength and size and game

What is Artest 6'7" 260?

He's more physical yes, but he cannot stop a quick guard/forward anymore, cannot shoot, and is a headcase. Not worth it.

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

This - Artest was a bust on the Rockets, and will be so on the Lakers. He needs a lot of shots, and taking shots away from Kobe isn't going to happen. He has tunnel vision on the offensive end, and has slowed down drastically on defense. Combine that with his temper and he's someone that can be exploited - see what happened with Kobe in the playoffs.

And Odom doesn't really secure the Lakers - there's still no reliable backup big men for them. Bynum is still unproven, so who else is there?

Artest was not a bust for them on the Rockets. He's a big part of the reason why they even got the the second round which they have NEVER gotten to before.

Yah, he was - being the #2 option on the Rockets and he still couldn't match his career/peak numbers from when he was on the Pacers. Artest will never be the player that he used to be - yet people will push him like he is. Artest was never the product of a system (like Marion) - he's a skilled 1on1 player, but he freaking shot 40% last year, and 50% in his best year. The dude has slowed down, a lot.

artest was not a bust for the rockets...we got exactly what we asked for. it's not surprising he ended up being a 1-year rental, and he did help us get to the 2nd round and take the lakers to 7. granted ya he's slowed down, but obviously wasn't a bust.

that being said, it's true he's slowed down and can't guard the quicker guards anymore. shot selection is always suspect...he's actually a good shooter but takes lots of dumb last second shots. plus his tendency to not run the plays called is frustrating. should be interesting to see how he meshes with lakers.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

You make a claim of 95%, it is your job to prove it, otherwise you are confirming that you are a delusion Spurs fan (who would be lucky to finish in the top 5 of the league).

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

LOL. Going to SpursTalk for objective talk about Lamar signing with the Lakers is like trying get objective talk at a Lakers forum.

Blind or not, LA won the championship this year, so let us enjoy it. When we see you guys at the conference finals next year, then all the shit-talking will get settled.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dougp


Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

Holy crap no wonder

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: neegotiator

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

This - Artest was a bust on the Rockets, and will be so on the Lakers. He needs a lot of shots, and taking shots away from Kobe isn't going to happen. He has tunnel vision on the offensive end, and has slowed down drastically on defense. Combine that with his temper and he's someone that can be exploited - see what happened with Kobe in the playoffs.

And Odom doesn't really secure the Lakers - there's still no reliable backup big men for them. Bynum is still unproven, so who else is there?

Artest was not a bust for them on the Rockets. He's a big part of the reason why they even got the the second round which they have NEVER gotten to before.

Yah, he was - being the #2 option on the Rockets and he still couldn't match his career/peak numbers from when he was on the Pacers. Artest will never be the player that he used to be - yet people will push him like he is. Artest was never the product of a system (like Marion) - he's a skilled 1on1 player, but he freaking shot 40% last year, and 50% in his best year. The dude has slowed down, a lot.

artest was not a bust for the rockets...we got exactly what we asked for. it's not surprising he ended up being a 1-year rental, and he did help us get to the 2nd round and take the lakers to 7. granted ya he's slowed down, but obviously wasn't a bust.

that being said, it's true he's slowed down and can't guard the quicker guards anymore. shot selection is always suspect...he's actually a good shooter but takes lots of dumb last second shots. plus his tendency to not run the plays called is frustrating. should be interesting to see how he meshes with lakers.

Artest is the reason you guys lost quite a few games - thinking he was a go-to guy at the end, instead of Brooks or Yao. He shot 40% - that is NOT a good shooter, and his career % is 42%. He's a volume shooter, period.

 

[dahunan]

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewforum.php?f=1

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

You make a claim of 95%, it is your job to prove it, otherwise you are confirming that you are a delusion Spurs fan (who would be lucky to finish in the top 5 of the league).

I'm a big Spurs fan but know that BOS/LA are too dominant this coming season with their line-up. The Spurs are too old now and injury prone to win. Dunan's knees are just going to bother him from now on and Ginobili's ankle is never going to be 100%. They have a great line-up but are just too old.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: DingDingDao

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

LOL. Going to SpursTalk for objective talk about Lamar signing with the Lakers is like trying get objective talk at a Lakers forum.

Blind or not, LA won the championship this year, so let us enjoy it. When we see you guys at the conference finals next year, then all the shit-talking will get settled.

Funny enough, but SpursTalk's NBA forum isn't biased - if you venture into the Spurs portion, then yes it is. We have a lot of members who are fans of other teams ... I suggest you check it out, because you will be surprised.

And OCguy, I'm not doing the linking for you - if you think I'm wrong, prove it. I may be a Spurs fan, but I'm also big into basketball and read articles all the time.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

You seem to be the only person I've ever hear say that Ariza is a better player. No one would agree with you. Anyone would take a proven player over a guy that only played well for 3 months out of his career.

haha, a "proven player" who hasn't played well in 2+ years. Again, great move. Let me know how it works out after the 154657th time Artest breaks a set play to take a shitty shot or when he takes a last second shot over Kobe. I see that working well.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

You make a claim of 95%, it is your job to prove it, otherwise you are confirming that you are a delusion Spurs fan (who would be lucky to finish in the top 5 of the league).

I'm a big Spurs fan but know that BOS/LA are too dominant this coming season with their line-up. The Spurs are too old now and injury prone to win. Dunan's knees are just going to bother him from now on and Ginobili's ankle is never going to be 100%. They have a great line-up but are just too old.

No, you're not. The Spurs got drastically younger this offseason, and considering Duncan has taken the position Robinson did in his last few years - they've strengthened considerably. Manu hasn't played this offseason, so everything will be fine - he's a lot more proven than Bynum is anyways, or Odom.

 

[neegotiator]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: neegotiator

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: OCguy
Hell yea!


That is one amazing lineup. I smell LA/BOS part 2.


Bynum will be better, and we traded Ariza for Artest? Monster team.

Getting rid of Ariza for Artest was a joke.


<<<< Lakers fan

They didn't get rid of Ariza for Artest. Ariza chose to go and then they picked up Artest. Anyone who thinks Ariza is better than Artest is just crazy. Kobe is not getting any younger and doesn't have many years left and Artest is a right now move. Ariza can go develop in a rising team and get "better". Kobe doesn't have the time to wait for Ariza to develop.

The lakers just won a title with the "developing" Ariza. Now you have an aging, crazy, egotistical loon in Artest. Artest is not an elite player on either end of the court anymore and its gonna be funny to watch how angry Kobe gets.

This - Artest was a bust on the Rockets, and will be so on the Lakers. He needs a lot of shots, and taking shots away from Kobe isn't going to happen. He has tunnel vision on the offensive end, and has slowed down drastically on defense. Combine that with his temper and he's someone that can be exploited - see what happened with Kobe in the playoffs.

And Odom doesn't really secure the Lakers - there's still no reliable backup big men for them. Bynum is still unproven, so who else is there?

Artest was not a bust for them on the Rockets. He's a big part of the reason why they even got the the second round which they have NEVER gotten to before.

Yah, he was - being the #2 option on the Rockets and he still couldn't match his career/peak numbers from when he was on the Pacers. Artest will never be the player that he used to be - yet people will push him like he is. Artest was never the product of a system (like Marion) - he's a skilled 1on1 player, but he freaking shot 40% last year, and 50% in his best year. The dude has slowed down, a lot.

artest was not a bust for the rockets...we got exactly what we asked for. it's not surprising he ended up being a 1-year rental, and he did help us get to the 2nd round and take the lakers to 7. granted ya he's slowed down, but obviously wasn't a bust.

that being said, it's true he's slowed down and can't guard the quicker guards anymore. shot selection is always suspect...he's actually a good shooter but takes lots of dumb last second shots. plus his tendency to not run the plays called is frustrating. should be interesting to see how he meshes with lakers.

Artest is the reason you guys lost quite a few games - thinking he was a go-to guy at the end, instead of Brooks or Yao. He shot 40% - that is NOT a good shooter, and his career % is 42%. He's a volume shooter, period.

i'm not denying that he lost us games...but he's won quite a few for us too...that's hardly a bust to me.

prob worded that poorly, but he has good shooting mechanics when he sets his head to it. but the broken plays/dribbling/last second shots - he forces himself into bad contested fadeaway shots that make me tear my hair out. when he sets up properly when receiving pass on perimeter, i'd take that any day.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: dougp


And OCguy, I'm not doing the linking for you - if you think I'm wrong, prove it. I may be a Spurs fan, but I'm also big into basketball and read articles all the time.

Holy crap. You make an outrageous claim that 95% of sports writers say the Lakers are worse now. I ask for links to this, and you tell me to prove you're wrong?

I'm convinced you arent older than 15-16.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


You can think what you want - but 95% of the sports writers are not choosing the Lakers, and have said they've gotten worse.

Links? 95% seems like an awful lot of sports writers thinking the Lakers wont win again.

Go to ESPN, Fox, SI yourself and look them up - I'm not doing your homework for you.

Or you could go to a forum where they actually discuss sports more than the signing of a roleplayer - the NBA forum on SpursTalk is really good, and there's blind Lakers fans like you there too.

You make a claim of 95%, it is your job to prove it, otherwise you are confirming that you are a delusion Spurs fan (who would be lucky to finish in the top 5 of the league).

I'm a big Spurs fan but know that BOS/LA are too dominant this coming season with their line-up. The Spurs are too old now and injury prone to win. Dunan's knees are just going to bother him from now on and Ginobili's ankle is never going to be 100%. They have a great line-up but are just too old.

No, you're not. The Spurs got drastically younger this offseason, and considering Duncan has taken the position Robinson did in his last few years - they've strengthened considerably. Manu hasn't played this offseason, so everything will be fine - he's a lot more proven than Bynum is anyways, or Odom.

You can still be a big fan but be logical.

 

[OCGuy]

Spurs? LOL. Seriously.

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: dougp


And OCguy, I'm not doing the linking for you - if you think I'm wrong, prove it. I may be a Spurs fan, but I'm also big into basketball and read articles all the time.

Holy crap. You make an outrageous claim that 95% of sports writers say the Lakers are worse now. I ask for links to this, and you tell me to prove you're wrong?

I'm convinced you arent older than 15-16.

And I'm convinced you're a mentally retarded Lakers fan who's inhaled too much LA smog. And as far as I'm concerned, I have nothing to prove to you - you can go fucking jump off a cliff. There's a lot more Lakers fans in here that are more level headed and intelligent as you are and realize that the league has adjusted to the biggest, most lopsided trade in the history of the NBA.