Lancer Evo + LS1 Motor

[HiTek21]

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That sounds crazy mean. Guess these guys got tired of the stock 4g63 motor blowing

 

[Aikouka]

DSM owners try to coerce themselves not to mind with some funny logic... if a dog is man's best friend and dog's want to be taken for walks... then if a 4G63 wants to go for a walk, it's also man's best friend :laugh:.

 

[ayabe]

Kind of cool I guess, but the extra weight of that motor is undoubtedly throwing the balance of the car way off, it probably nose dives like crazy now.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Kind of cool I guess, but the extra weight of that motor is undoubtedly throwing the balance of the car way off, it probably nose dives like crazy now.

The Ls1 is only ~70lbs heavier (4g63 ~320, Ls1 ~390)...That will affect it, but probably not as much as people think...

 

[mcturkey]

The LS1 weighs roughly the same (if not less) than a DOHC I4 with turbo, intercooler, and associated plumbing. The LS engines are very light and compact, because they use pushrods (single cam, in-block) and aluminum block construction. There will be no "nose-diving" because of that engine.

Is it still AWD? From what I could make out in that very grainy video, it was behaving like a RWD. If you abandon AWD, the Evo loses any mystique it had.

 

[SVT Cobra]

LS1 FTW!

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: ayabe
Kind of cool I guess, but the extra weight of that motor is undoubtedly throwing the balance of the car way off, it probably nose dives like crazy now.

The Ls1 is only ~70lbs heavier (4g63 ~320, Ls1 ~390)...That will affect it, but probably not as much as people think...

OK, for some reason I had ~500lbs in my head.

I also thought it looked like they were only running the rears, wonder if the center diff can't handle the truth.

 

[fbrdphreak]

See, people complain of traction in cars designed for RWD V8's. Imagine how terrible traction will be in that car as RWD. A Vette runs 295's out back from the factory, people can fit 335's with new fenders. How do they expect to get traction out of the stock 235's or 245's that come on that Evo? I can't say I know about the ability of Evo's to run wider tires, but I'm guessing there aren't any tub kits for that AWD gokart....

I know my traction sucks in a 3700lb vehicle with 400 crank HP & 245's all around...much less a 3200lb vehicle with at least 350 crank HP and smaller tires.....

 

[AdamK47]

I love how he says LS1

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: ayabe
Kind of cool I guess, but the extra weight of that motor is undoubtedly throwing the balance of the car way off, it probably nose dives like crazy now.

The Ls1 is only ~70lbs heavier (4g63 ~320, Ls1 ~390)...That will affect it, but probably not as much as people think...

OK, for some reason I had ~500lbs in my head.

I also thought it looked like they were only running the rears, wonder if the center diff can't handle the truth.

With a motor the size of a LS1, I doubt it would be mounted in a Transverse fashion. I'm pretty sure it would be mounted Longitudinally and thus use a different transmission.

Well now that I've watched the video, I'm sure its mounted Longitudinally which means that the AWD tranny and drivetrain was ripped out and probably replaced with a GM tranny, probably a Tremec/Borg-Warner T56(most likely?) or ZF S6-650 or maybe possibly a NVG 3500/4500 thousg the last 2 are mainly truck trannies.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: ayabe
Kind of cool I guess, but the extra weight of that motor is undoubtedly throwing the balance of the car way off, it probably nose dives like crazy now.

The Ls1 is only ~70lbs heavier (4g63 ~320, Ls1 ~390)...That will affect it, but probably not as much as people think...

OK, for some reason I had ~500lbs in my head.

I also thought it looked like they were only running the rears, wonder if the center diff can't handle the truth.

With a motor the size of a LS1, I doubt it would be mounted in a Transverse fashion. I'm pretty sure it would be mounted Longitudinally and thus use a different transmission.

Well now that I've watched the video, I'm sure its mounted Longitudinally which means that the AWD tranny and drivetrain was ripped out and probably replaced with a GM tranny, probably a Tremec/Borg-Warner T56(most likely?) or ZF S6-650 or maybe possibly a NVG 3500/4500 thousg the last 2 are mainly truck trannies.

I respect the concept and all I'm just wondering what they are going to ultimately gain from swap, yes the power potential is higher but as others have said, only running the rears on a car with much slimmer tires they are going to have problems hooking up, and for auto-x I think the car would be a disaster.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
With a motor the size of a LS1, I doubt it would be mounted in a Transverse fashion. I'm pretty sure it would be mounted Longitudinally and thus use a different transmission.

Well now that I've watched the video, I'm sure its mounted Longitudinally which means that the AWD tranny and drivetrain was ripped out and probably replaced with a GM tranny, probably a Tremec/Borg-Warner T56(most likely?) or ZF S6-650 or maybe possibly a NVG 3500/4500 thousg the last 2 are mainly truck trannies.

Having been using a 3500 for the last 84,000 miles, I can firmly say, it'd be craptacular in a performance car. It's durable, but the 2-3 upshift catches me every third trip down the strip. (costs a third of a second to push the clucth in and shove it up again)

Edit:
A T-5 or TKO wouldn't be a bad option.

 

[DougK62]

What's with everyone thinking that the LSX is some huge and heavy motor? It's smaller and lighter than these DOHC V6's that they're sticking in everything now.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: DougK62
What's with everyone thinking that the LSX is some huge and heavy motor? It's smaller and lighter than these DOHC V6's that they're sticking in everything now.

The displacement. People don't understand how f'ing huge DOHC heads are. I think Ford had more trouble dropping the DOHC engine in the Mustang than they did dropping the 604 in the one off car they did.

http://www.hotrod.com/featured...938_1994_ford_mustang/
http://www.hotrod.com/featured...tang_mach_1/index.html

Those engines look like they take up about the same amount of space, don't they? Note the proximity to the master brake cylinder (below the resivour) Hard to believe one has twice the displacement of the other.

 

[melchoir]

Currently loving my LS1.

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