Laptops Make you sterile?

ding5550123

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There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.
 
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Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.

Heat may potentially make you sterile temporarily. However, the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.
 

jiggahertz

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.

Heat may potentially make you sterile temporarily. However, the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.

Or you could just wear the boxers on this page. Text
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: jiggahertz
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.

Heat may potentially make you sterile temporarily. However, the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.

Or you could just wear the boxers on this page. Text

Wow. Just... wow.
 

MegaVovaN

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern.
I take it the amount of electromagnetic forces from my third gen cell phone (video/camera/color) is insignificant? The phone is in my pocket next to my ballz :light:
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern.
I take it the amount of electromagnetic forces from my third gen cell phone (video/camera/color) is insignificant? The phone is in my pocket next to my ballz :light:

Unless it's actively communicating (talking, texting, email, etc), all that happens is that it receives pings from the cell tower(s) telling it the signal strength IIRC. If that's enough to give you cancer, then we should all be cancerously sterile from the AM/FM signals that have been passing through our bodies over the decades.
 

Jahee

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.

Heat may potentially make you sterile temporarily. However, the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.

I think the main issue here is the effect of the heat on your testicles.
 
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Originally posted by: Jahee
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.

Heat may potentially make you sterile temporarily. However, the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.

I think the main issue here is the effect of the heat on your testicles.

Actually, the main issue is the cancer you'll get from the EMF hitting your satchel. Trust me, electrons and free radicals are bad news when it comes to the human body.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.
I don't know what tinfoil conspiracy theory site you pulled your information from, but it is utter and total bullcrap. The conspiracy theory that EMI/RFI that is emitted from equipment somehow magically causes cancer has been thoroughly debunked more times then I care to count. I am honestly shocked you would believe something so assanine as this. I guess you avoid MRI whenever possible, since that is hundreds of thousands of times the intensity of any device on the market today, and you must avoid areas with powerlines and electronics, as well eh? How about microwaves? are you afraid of them? Or maybe you cower in fear of riding in a car with an alarm or being in an electronics store? How about an airplane? ride those? And radio signals of all types. Do you live in a cave where they can't penetrate as much? Do you have any idea how many types, frequencies, and the sheer amount of radio waves we are exposed to every single minute nomatter where on earth we are?

I won't even bother to look up the many places this kind of BS conspiracy theory has been debunked, as people that believe this kind of thing will 99.997% of the time ignore any proof of the opposite and cling to their beliefs, however ill-advised and utterly false they are. People believeing in this kind of BS belong right beside fundamentalist christians and the like.
 

jaqie

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Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.
It's no rumor, the reason the male genetelia are external to the body is the temperature needed for producing and storing viable sperm is just below the human's homeothermic body temperature. Causing the organ to get to or above body temperature will destroy any stored and being made, and over a long period of exposure to such high heat can cause the 'factory' to break down for a while. Laptops can cause this when in your lap simply because they create heat, and your lap will create a small confined space below it that also has your genetelia in the same confined space, thus heating the organ to above it's proper temperature. It's that simple.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern.
I take it the amount of electromagnetic forces from my third gen cell phone (video/camera/color) is insignificant? The phone is in my pocket next to my ballz :light:

Your cell phone transmits and receives high frequency radiation. Well, not super high frequency. There has been a lot of discussion about just how detrimental this might be. Myself, I try to use a headset when I use my cellphone, which is mostly from the house anyway. Besides, then I'm hands free. It keeps the thingo away from my head.

Now a laptop? I'm going to measure the EMF's from my T60 right now and will return in a few minutes. I've never measured them...

Edit: I'm seeing very low EMF's from my Lenovo T60, under 4 milligauss, which would be around the threshold for real significance. At 4 milligauss I start to think I don't want to be exposed to more than necessary. This would be about 4 feet from your microwave, for instance (when it's on, naturally). From my laptop, I'm seeing under 2 milligauss, and I won't concern myself with having it on my lap. Is there other radiation coming from it that I don't know about (my measurment is of EMF's typically associated with AC, especially transformers, transmission lines, etc.)? I don't know. However, I have no reason to think so.

Has anyone heard about any valid objections to laptops in terms of radiation?
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: ding5550123
There is a new rumor going around that prolonged use of a laptop on your lap will eventually make you sterile. I say no, but my friend wants a second opinion.
It's no rumor, the reason the male genetelia are external to the body is the temperature needed for producing and storing viable sperm is just below the human's homeothermic body temperature. Causing the organ to get to or above body temperature will destroy any stored and being made, and over a long period of exposure to such high heat can cause the 'factory' to break down for a while. Laptops can cause this when in your lap simply because they create heat, and your lap will create a small confined space below it that also has your genetelia in the same confined space, thus heating the organ to above it's proper temperature. It's that simple.

Oh, well, I don't think my balls are overheating. Anyway, if this were such a big deal, there wouldn't be such a population boom thing going on in Asia and Africa. It's just that your balls want to be below body temperature.
 
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Originally posted by: jaqie
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
the amount of electromagnetic forces interacting with your cells is cause for concern. If the free radicals screw with a mechanism, you could very well go sterile. Pretty much any bodily function can be screwed over if the mechanism is messed with. I personally don't sit with a laptop on my lap because of this. To put it briefly, the electrons have the ability to mutate your cells. That's usually not a good thing - it can lead to cancer and a lot of other problems with cell mechanisms, which is why they think cell phones may cause brain tumors, etc. Electromagnetic forces create free radicals and free radicals = lose. Sit with a large textbook on your lap if you have to do it. You don't want testicular cancer.
I don't know what tinfoil conspiracy theory site you pulled your information from, but it is utter and total bullcrap. The conspiracy theory that EMI/RFI that is emitted from equipment somehow magically causes cancer has been thoroughly debunked more times then I care to count. I am honestly shocked you would believe something so assanine as this. I guess you avoid MRI whenever possible, since that is hundreds of thousands of times the intensity of any device on the market today, and you must avoid areas with powerlines and electronics, as well eh? How about microwaves? are you afraid of them? Or maybe you cower in fear of riding in a car with an alarm or being in an electronics store? How about an airplane? ride those? And radio signals of all types. Do you live in a cave where they can't penetrate as much? Do you have any idea how many types, frequencies, and the sheer amount of radio waves we are exposed to every single minute nomatter where on earth we are?

I won't even bother to look up the many places this kind of BS conspiracy theory has been debunked, as people that believe this kind of thing will 99.997% of the time ignore any proof of the opposite and cling to their beliefs, however ill-advised and utterly false they are. People believeing in this kind of BS belong right beside fundamentalist christians and the like.

Has it been debunked? I try not to set things on top of me that have a signifcantly large battery. Electrons DO get away from that thing, whether anybody likes it or not. If you read into the biological affects of electrons and free radicals, it's not even worth it to take the risk. All it takes is one mutated cell to end your life. I don't think I really like those odds.

Also, I am just doing what I can to not get testicular cancer, whether it's high risk or not I don't quite understand how it's a BS conspiracy theory. Battery = electron flow. The sytem is NOT always a closed one. Electrons get away on other particles, perhaps in the air, and interact with your body. That cell that gets interacted with can undergo deleterious mutations in its DNA, which can hinder your cell's communication with the body/growth regulation/or make you superman if you wanna take the chance .

The milligauss thing obviously proves that the EMFs are very low, so they aren't as extensive as I would've guessed; but cells phones are worse, I'm guessing? *Shrugs* I just don't want cancer since it runs in my family and will try to avoid even small things that can create any possibility of inducing it.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Has it been debunked? I try not to set things on top of me that have a signifcantly large battery. Electrons DO get away from that thing, whether anybody likes it or not. If you read into the biological affects of electrons and free radicals, it's not even worth it to take the risk. All it takes is one mutated cell to end your life. I don't think I really like those odds.

Also, I am just doing what I can to not get testicular cancer, whether it's high risk or not I don't quite understand how it's a BS conspiracy theory. Battery = electron flow. The sytem is NOT always a closed one. Electrons get away on other particles, perhaps in the air, and interact with your body. That cell that gets interacted with can undergo deleterious mutations in its DNA, which can hinder your cell's communication with the body/growth regulation/or make you superman if you wanna take the chance .

The milligauss thing obviously proves that the EMFs are very low, so they aren't as extensive as I would've guessed; but cells phones are worse, I'm guessing? *Shrugs* I just don't want cancer since it runs in my family and will try to avoid even small things that can create any possibility of inducing it.
I personally think that of more concern than electrons and sundry radiation is carcinogens, chemical pollutants, bad diet and lack of exercise when it comes to susceptibility to getting cancer. And, of course, early detection is very important.

EMF's are controversial and there have been lots of studies. Growing children are far more susceptible to damage, studies have revealed. Since becoming a known at least potentially important issue, much has been done to reduce EMF's in the environment, in particular in product design. That's largely why you will find much lower EMF's coming from modern computer equipment. The CRT's of 1990 emitted far more than today's. I measured my LCD this morning and the emissions of EMF's is pretty negligible. I threw away an electric blanket I had because it was made before they developed techniques to drastically reduce the EMF's. I measured my new one, and the levels are nice and low. I used to sleep next to a clock radio that gave off a fair amount of EMF's. I still have the clock responsible (took it out because it can be used as a timer, having an outlet on the back), but it sits where the EMF's coming from it are no concern. Transformer type wall warts (the older ones, not the solid state new ones) give off a lot of milligauss but in general they aren't a concern because after you get a few inches away from them the field isn't very significant. The field drops off inversely proportional to the square of the distance from them, or any other small source of EMF's.

 
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