Large scale terrorist attack diverted

Red Squirrel

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To me, this should be life in jail. I'm sure if the ones who flew planes in the WTC were still alive and caught, they'd get life in jail, well someone who is about to cause such terrorist attack should get the same penalty, as if he would not of been caught he would of did it.

It's good they were able to be caught before though. And hope this is not a repost...

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story...al-sentence090309.html

A man who pleaded guilty in the so-called Toronto 18 plot aimed at bombing targets in the city's downtown has been sentenced Thursday to 14 years in prison, but was credited with seven years for time already served.

Saad Khalid admitted in a Brampton, Ont., court that he was a member of a group that planned to commit a "despicable crime" by detonating bombs outside the Toronto Stock Exchange and the headquarters of CSIS, Canada's spy agency.

Khalid, who was arrested in 2006 while unloading what he believed was at least two tonnes of ammonium nitrate, pleaded guilty in May 2009 to one count of participating in a militant plot with the intention of causing an explosion.

The 23-year-old former McMaster University student has already served 39 months in pre-trial custody.

Ontario Superior Court Justice Bruce Durno said he accepted Khalid was not the leader of the group but his degree of responsibility "remains fairly high."

"This was not a spur-of-the-moment offence," Durno said, calling terrorist offences "the most vile form" of criminal activity.

Durno also ruled that parole eligibility would be up to the National Parole Board since Khalid is a first-time offender.
'I am not a lunatic'

In his appeal for clemency last week, Khalid said his participation in the plot arose from his disagreement with Canada's foreign policy and military mission in Afghanistan.

"I am not a lunatic who is hell-bent on destruction of Western civilization," he told the court.

The Crown had called for an 18- to 20-year sentence, but the defence suggested that time already served in jail and a two-year prison term would be appropriate.

Originally, 17 men and youths were arrested in the Toronto area in June 2006 and detained following an investigation by CSIS. An 18th person was arrested in August of that year.

Khalid is among 17 who were charged with several terrorism-related offences. The charges were later stayed or dropped against some of the accused.

One suspect, a minor at the time of his arrest, was convicted in September 2008 of conspiring to bomb several targets. He was the first person convicted under Canada's terrorism laws.

He was sentenced in May 2009 to 2½ years in prison. The judge then freed him, granting him credit for time already spent in custody.
 

Druidx

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I would think a big factor of his sentence would be how serious the guy was. I would be interested in hearing my facts about the case. Was this simply an empty threat or where serious plans put in place?
 

JeepinEd

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Originally posted by: Druidx
I would think a big factor of his sentence would be how serious the guy was. I would be interested in hearing my facts about the case. Was this simply an empty threat or where serious plans put in place?

Saad Khalid admitted in a Brampton, Ont., court that he was a member of a group that planned to commit a "despicable crime" by detonating bombs outside the Toronto Stock Exchange and the headquarters of CSIS, Canada's spy agency.

Khalid, who was arrested in 2006 while unloading what he believed was at least two tonnes of ammonium nitrate, pleaded guilty in May 2009 to one count of participating in a militant plot with the intention of causing an explosion.


I'd say he was serious....

They seem to be getting off too easy IMO.


 
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He doesn't seem to express remorse. One function of a prison has to be to ensure that repeat offenders are kept away from the general population. Does it seem likely that this man would attempt another such plot after serving his time in prison? From this, it sounds like he would. That makes him a credible threat. But then again, he'll probably be watched like a hawk upon release, so it's unlikely that he'd actually be able to carry any further plots through to execution.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
He doesn't seem to express remorse. One function of a prison has to be to ensure that repeat offenders are kept away from the general population. Does it seem likely that this man would attempt another such plot after serving his time in prison? From this, it sounds like he would. That makes him a credible threat. But then again, he'll probably be watched like a hawk upon release, so it's unlikely that he'd actually be able to carry any further plots through to execution.

Difficult to say really. He had no previous Record, but given the seriousness of what he was committed to do, I would certainly like to see some remorse about it. He's got 7 years to think about it, perhaps he'll come around yet.
 

ProfJohn

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I thought this thread was about a congressional town hall be cancelled.... my bad
 
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Send him to Kabul, arrange a unit of six men, take him out the back and shoot him.

He's lost his privelige to breathe.
 

yllus

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I've kept up with the case, both because of the nature of the crime and because I work where the attacks were targetted. Mr. Khalid only received a light sentence because the judge and jury recognized how incredibly inept and idiotic he was. The group he was a part of was observed and reported on at practically every bumbling step they took.

I never say this sort of thing, but it'd be kind of nice to see all of these dimwits put down like animals. If you can grow up here in Canada and still decide you hate everything it stands for, and then not even be able to plan your terrorism plot intelligently... Well, you sort of fail at everything, don't you? Sentence of death by catapult into Lake Ontario seems appropriate.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Send him to Kabul, arrange a unit of six men, take him out the back and shoot him.

He's lost his privelige to breathe.

That would be inhumane! I say lock him up for a few years... let him rehabilitate.. release him with some money for his troubles and maybe he can start a nice resturant somewhere. Why is everyone is such a hurry for bloodshed?
 

Baked

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It doesn't count if the terrorist's plot failed and didn't end up killing everybody, that's human rights 101. With the pussy law they call a justice system in Canada, I'm surprise they didn't release him and let him try again. :roll:
 

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THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED 2 BE TRIALS!


Lockup, and throwaway the key. Or throw them on an island south of the Keys.
 

Thump553

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Both those sentences seem pretty light. The 14 year one (with possibility of parole) in light of the defendant's absolute lack of remorse, and the juvenile for time served.

 

DesiPower

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Oh, its in Canada, thats why they were caught. I was wondering, CIA still doing its job!? even after all the threats from the Obamament?
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Send him to Kabul, arrange a unit of six men, take him out the back and shoot him.

He's lost his privelige to breathe.

Not the first post I've read that justifies terrorist attacks. But it's up there with the best!
Anyway, good for Canada where they catch'em before they commit'em.
 

imported_inspire

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The fuck? Have the Canadians forgot how to do math? 7 years credit for 39 months served? Wow, I guess they should grow a brain AND some balls.
 

Munky

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I haven't been following this case, but after the whole Lockerbie bombing conspiracy was uncovered, I'm reluctant to believe anything trumpeting "terrorist attack diverted."
 

Fern

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Originally posted by: inspire
The fuck? Have the Canadians forgot how to do math? 7 years credit for 39 months served? Wow, I guess they should grow a brain AND some balls.

You beat me to it. WTH kind of math do they use in Canada? 39 months != 7 years.

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: inspire
The fuck? Have the Canadians forgot how to do math? 7 years credit for 39 months served? Wow, I guess they should grow a brain AND some balls.

You beat me to it. WTH kind of math do they use in Canada? 39 months != 7 years.

Fern

They use metric months.
 
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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Send him to Kabul, arrange a unit of six men, take him out the back and shoot him.

He's lost his privelige to breathe.

Not the first post I've read that justifies terrorist attacks. But it's up there with the best!
Anyway, good for Canada where they catch'em before they commit'em.

You have got to be shitting me, it's a fucking line from a movie, we didn't do that even in Kabul.

Perhaps i should have tagged it proper but i thought it would be obvious.

Well, at least this will save me the effort of discussing anything with the complete retards that took me serious, all three of you.
 
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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: inspire
The fuck? Have the Canadians forgot how to do math? 7 years credit for 39 months served? Wow, I guess they should grow a brain AND some balls.

You beat me to it. WTH kind of math do they use in Canada? 39 months != 7 years.

Fern

They use metric months.

That made me laugh, thanks, i needed that.
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: inspire
The fuck? Have the Canadians forgot how to do math? 7 years credit for 39 months served? Wow, I guess they should grow a brain AND some balls.

You beat me to it. WTH kind of math do they use in Canada? 39 months != 7 years.

Fern

1 month credit for 1 month served.
7*12 = 84 months
84/2 = 41. - Time needed to serve

If in custody for a couple of months prior to sentencing, then the math is correct.
Not fair but correct

 

Freshgeardude

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this is how fucked up the system is. this guy deserves life yet in 7 years he is going to go back and plot another attack
 
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