Latest California power news...

rahvin

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/01/19/power.woes.03/index.html

<<The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) issued a temporary restraining order Friday requiring Southern California Edison and Pacific Gas &amp; Electric to &quot;meet their legal obligation to serve all customers.>>

<<The CPUC acted after the companies notified the agency they would begin reviewing their responsibilities Saturday. An emergency meeting of the PUC began in San Francisco at 11 a.m. (2 p.m. ET) to discuss the order.>>

<<Pacific Gas &amp; Electric Co. and Southern California Edison estimate they have lost more than $11 billion. They have both defaulted on millions in dollars in bills and lender payments and have warned that they are sliding toward bankruptcy.

There was more trouble Thursday: SoCal Edison was suspended from the state's Power Exchange, a clearinghouse for buyers and sellers of electricity, after failing to pay $215 million in bills.>>

<<The utility must post collateral before it can return to the market, an exchange spokesman said. A utility spokesman refused to comment, and it was unclear where SoCal Edison would go for its power.>>

Well it appears that SoCal Edison at least will be in Bankruptcy court next week unless the state starts giving them power at no cost. There will be no commerical buyers for the infrastructure (because of the current rate plan) so Cali will have to buy them, I would estimate that the line infastructure and such is probably worth at least 500million to 1billion dollars. Plus I would expect a lawsuit from the suppliers against the state to get them to pay the 11billion in debt, in addition the bond holders and stock holders will undoubtably sue to reclaim the assets lost due the negligence of the State. It will be very interesting to see how much taxes go up in Cali as a result of the expenses, probably at least a percent in sales tax or a percent in income tax.

 

apoppin

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Well, there goes a very failed attempt at deregulation (attempted in the worst possible way).

Does anyone have a feeling that electric prices will also later skyrocket?

I am planning for solar hot water and solar panels next month (at least the Public utilities offer a 50% rebate on the Panels).
 

Dameon

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Oct 11, 1999
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I'm betting real estate in Kalifornia is going to oool off kwickly... as anyone who loses their job to yet another dead .com heads for greener pastures, cheaper real estate, and the true modern convenience... reliable cheap electricity
 

weinir

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i'd like to know why SCE's parent company, the behemoth known as Edison International, is just sitting there like an ostrich in its head in the sand and isnt doing anything to help rectify the situation. well just goes to show you that well, not all things in life are supposed to be unregulated. i'd say the airline industry should be re-regulated as well, but thats not gonna happen...not with the amount of political clout that the airlines have
 

prontospyder

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Well, deregulation is working for Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Maine....

Also, it's gonna be deregulated in Texas soon...they won't have the problems because they built much more power plants to meet future demand.
 

Nick Stone

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Oct 14, 1999
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Somehow, this one fact always seems to always get lost.

There isn't anyway to get around paying for the actual cost of electricity. Whether the ratepayers (users) or the tax payers do the actual paying.

Right now many many californians are buying electricity for 60% of it's cost and approx. 60% of what people in self-sufficient energy producing states pay.

Any solution other than paying &quot;fair market value&quot; is just a &quot;Hollywood Production&quot; featuring self-indulgent politicians playing with themselves.
 

ride525

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Sigh....Governor Davis claimed he didn't want the Utilities to go bankrupt.....but it looks like it may be too late now....not much is being done...
 
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