Legalize Marijuana UPDATE W/ POLL

Mrfrog840

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In 1937, the United States passed the Marihuana Tax Act and banned recreational and medical use of cannabis. In the 69 years since, it has become the most widely used illegal narcotic in the western world. The plan backfired.

Since that time, numerous studies have been conducted based on the idea of this sort of plant prohibition. We will look at three.

In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research, editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

The Americans found the same thing in 1972 when the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse released a report titled "Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding," and concluded that marijuana prohibition is "Philosophically Inappropriate", "Constitutionally Suspect", and "Functionally Inappropriate."

Years before that, in 1944, the La Guardia Committee Report, commissioned by New York City Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia to investigate the effects of marijuana, found that the popular claims about the negative effects of marijuana were wildly exaggerated.

These studies are important to know about when looking at the DEA?s argument for the keeping Mary Jane illegal. The organization claims on its website that ?Illegal drugs are illegal because they are harmful? and ?Most non violent drug users get treatment, not jail time?. We know from the aforementioned British study that the first statement holds no water, and to debunk the second statement let?s take a look at the laws for simple possession in one of our states. In Arizona possession of a small amount, less than 2 lbs, will land you six months to a year and a half in jail. That doesn?t sound like treatment.

President Bush has claimed that today?s marijuana is much more potent than the stuff him and his Yale buddies smoked back in the sixties. Hmm, a former coke addict making complaints about the strength of our pot being too high? It seems the hypocrisy in this nation knows no bounds.

The cold hard fact for any anti-marijuana argument is simple. Marijuana kills 0 people every year. How can something be dangerous, much too dangerous to allow into the hands of the public, yet has not once killed anyone? We are, ironically, allowed guns.

An overdose of this supposedly dangerous drug is ?generally no more than that associated with mild to moderate exercise? according to Medical Admissions Criteria. You would be worse off after running a mile than after smoking too much marijuana.

There is still, however, a light amongst all this darkness. Alaska has become the first state to decriminalize marijuana and Denver Colorado has become the first city to allow a law to be passed that treats the plant in the exact same respect as alcohol. Nevada will vote in 2006 on the complete legalization as well.

The internet has also been a useful tool to activists. Websites such as norml.com, thcministry.org, have popped up everywhere and are helping to spread the word about the benefits of the herb.

It is only a matter of time before this situation of prohibition must be addressed by those in power. Things are drastically changing and more and more people are learning the truth. Were knocking on the door right now and before the decade is out we will be smoking in the living room.

In the end, we will win. We will be free to smoke our joints and puff our bongs without fear of retribution by the authorities. Truth will win out over propaganda and the good people of this earth will finally be free again.

Why its Illegal

Cliff Notes:
* Tobacco kills about 400,000
* Alcohol kills about 80,000
* Workplace accidents kill 60,000
* Automobiles kill 40,000
* Cocaine kills about 2,500
* Heroin kills about 2,000
* Aspirin kills about 2,000
* Marijuana kills 0

Two other fear-tactic rumors started to spread: one, that Mexicans, Blacks and other foreigners were snaring white children with marijuana; and two, the story of the "assassins." Early stories of Marco Polo had told of "hasheesh-eaters" or hashashin, from which derived the term "assassin." In the original stories, these professional killers were given large doses of hashish and brought to the ruler's garden (to give them a glimpse of the paradise that awaited them upon successful completion of their mission). Then, after the effects of the drug disappeared, the assassin would fulfill his ruler's wishes with cool, calculating loyalty.

By the 1930s, the story had changed. Dr. A. E. Fossier wrote in the 1931 New Orleans Medical and Surgical Journal: "Under the influence of hashish those fanatics would madly rush at their enemies, and ruthlessly massacre every one within their grasp." Within a very short time, marijuana started being linked to violent behavior.

Anslinger was an extremely ambitious man, and he recognized the Bureau of Narcotics as an amazing career opportunity -- a new government agency with the opportunity to define both the problem and the solution. He immediately realized that opiates and cocaine wouldn't be enough to help build his agency, so he latched on to marijuana and started to work on making it illegal at the federal level.

Anslinger immediately drew upon the themes of racism and violence to draw national attention to the problem he wanted to create. Some of his quotes regarding marijuana...

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

And he loved to pull out his own version of the "assassin" definition:

"In the year 1090, there was founded in Persia the religious and military order of the Assassins, whose history is one of cruelty, barbarity, and murder, and for good reason: the members were confirmed users of hashish, or marihuana, and it is from the Arabs' 'hashashin' that we have the English word 'assassin.'"

TELL ME THAT IS NOT HORSE CRAP
 

Encryptic

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Legalize the immediate and total shutdown of all flamebait threads.

For the record, I'm pro-legalization, but trying to have a mature discussion about marijuana on ATOT is a non-starter, especially when Nik gets involved. :roll:
 

Perknose

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Lawn chairs for rent! Hey, get yer lawns chairs here! Free beer with every rental!

 

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There is still, however, a light amongst all this darkness. Alaska has become the first state to decriminalize marijuana and Denver Colorado has become the first city to allow a law to be passed that treats the plant in the exact same respect as alcohol. Nevada will vote in 2006 on the complete legalization as well.

You might add Seattle to that list as an initiative passed that made personal use marijuana a low police priority...I think.
 

Kaervak

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Truth will win out over propaganda and the good people of this earth will finally be free again.

LMAO, I'm all for legalizing pot, but trying to make it sound like you're being locked away in concentration camps and getting executed isn't helping.
 

IronWing

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Fuuuuuuuuuah, ahhhhhhhhhhhh. Um, hmmm, like hmmmmm P and zen dude. Heeeeheeee, you said zen, bbppppp, heehe, zen.
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: K1052
It is bad form not to cite your source.

Eddie, the guy who works at the car wash, he sells good stuff and he doesn't get all greedy.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: K1052
It is bad form not to cite your source.

Eddie, the guy who works at the car wash, he sells good stuff and he doesn't get all greedy.

Ok, I laughed.

 

No, don't legalize it, decriminalize it.

Legalization is the warcry of the ignorant.
 

TitanDiddly

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I have a suspicion that your report is factually incorrect and draws conclusions where they are not fit to be drawn.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Kaervak
Truth will win out over propaganda and the good people of this earth will finally be free again.
LMAO, I'm all for legalizing pot, but trying to make it sound like you're being locked away in concentration camps and getting executed isn't helping.
There are over 1 million Americans in jail or prison right now for cannabis-related crimes.

Originally posted by: SampSon
No, don't legalize it, decriminalize it.

Legalization is the warcry of the ignorant.
Explain. Alcohol is legalized, is it not? Decriminalization is a half-assed solution at best. Designed to placate those who refuse to recognize the wrongs of the drug prohibition. It leaves the prohibition in place, with all its wrongs, and pretends that ignoring the problem is the solution. Bad idea.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Lawn chairs for rent! Hey, get yer lawns chairs here! Free beer with every rental!

I'll take two. I can only pay you in cookies and thumbsups. Here is my downpayment...


:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

AMDZen

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I once knew a kid in HS who died from it. He had a gas mask connected to a hooka, and passed out with it on.

However, that kid died from asphixiation and stupidity, not the Marijuana.

Marijuana itself causes NO deaths, directly - only from people who can't drive on it, and so forth. In fact, its been proven that its impossible to smoke too much of it. Your body starts rejecting it, same thing as with drinking too much milk. Your body will eventually reject it, so its impossible to die by drinking too much milk.

Alcohol on the other hand, on the same basis I gave - I've known more then 20 people, directly and indirectly, who have died from it. Whether it be DUI, alcohol poisoning or otherwise.

Alcohol is THE MOST dangerous drug in the world, simply because of how naive people are toward it. If marijuana was legal however, there would be more deaths attributed to it simply because people are so naive. Like if someone is in a fatal accident, and happens to be tested positive for THC, they will blame it on that as opposed to the persons inability to drive.
 
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