lewis vs Klitschko

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I'll say this... I'm looking forward to the rematch!

Lewis won't take it.....He knows Vitali would have knocked his ass out.

He'll HAVE to take it, eventually. I'll bet that Don King is working on the pay-per-view rights as we speak!

 

[cliftonite]

Man wtf was that sh!t about. They should have let them fight it out :|

 

[stormbv]

Damn! I never watch boxing, but that was amazing! That gash over Klitschko's eye was huge, but he kept fighting hard. I loved how the crowd cheered for him after it was called.

I will definitely start watching boxing more. Hell, I'd even pay to watch the rematch!

 

[IgoByte]

Klitschko is the man!

Did you Lewis at the after-fight interview? Pu$$y!


Man, white guys have a much harder time with those cuts than black guys do.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Originally posted by: stormbv
Damn! I never watch boxing, but that was amazing! That gash over Klitschko's eye was huge, but he kept fighting hard. I loved how the crowd cheered for him after it was called.

I will definitely start watching boxing more. Hell, I'd even pay to watch the rematch!

Don't let one good fight goad you into paying $60 for the next pay-per-view. Every now and then you hit a classic, but too often you get stuck with either a dull fight where they dance and grab for 12 rounds or a mismatch that's over in 2. Almost always the more money you pay for a fight the worse it turns out in the end. That's why I like HBO, if the fight sucks you have not lost anything. Too bad Mickey Ward retired, I wouldn't mind seeing him go against Arturo Gatti a couple more times, those fights (especially 1 and 3) were better than anything that's ever been on pay-per-view.

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Phuz

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I would love to see Lewis lose. He thinks he is unstoppable!

But he is an incredible boxer and a very smart man. He knows hes good, and thats why hes arrogant. Not saying that makes it acceptable.. but, anyway..

Gah...bullsh*t. I think Klitschko could have finished him off. I'm tired of seeing Lewis win half-ass like this. :disgust:

Win half assed? Not tonight.

He has won half assed before, but I don't think tonight was one of those times. He split Klitschko's face pretty good. A few more rounds and it could have been a lot worse. Regardless of how things started, a cut like that is a hell of a disability.

 

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: IgoByte
Klitschko is the man!

Did you Lewis at the after-fight interview? Pu$$y!


Man, white guys have a much harder time with those cuts than black guys do.

Not Really

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Phuz

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: Phuz

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
I would love to see Lewis lose. He thinks he is unstoppable!

But he is an incredible boxer and a very smart man. He knows hes good, and thats why hes arrogant. Not saying that makes it acceptable.. but, anyway..

Gah...bullsh*t. I think Klitschko could have finished him off. I'm tired of seeing Lewis win half-ass like this. :disgust:

Win half assed? Not tonight.

He has won half assed before, but I don't think tonight was one of those times. He split Klitschko's face pretty good. A few more rounds and it could have been a lot worse. Regardless of how things started, a cut like that is a hell of a disability.

lewis still fought like crap. he was getting beaten, hands down. the crowd knew it, the announcers did, so did the judges.

 

[stormbv]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: stormbv
Damn! I never watch boxing, but that was amazing! That gash over Klitschko's eye was huge, but he kept fighting hard. I loved how the crowd cheered for him after it was called.

I will definitely start watching boxing more. Hell, I'd even pay to watch the rematch!

Don't let one good fight goad you into paying $60 for the next pay-per-view. Every now and then you hit a classic, but too often you get stuck with either a dull fight where they dance and grab for 12 rounds or a mismatch that's over in 2. Almost always the more money you pay for a fight the worse it turns out in the end. That's why I like HBO, if the fight sucks you have not lost anything. Too bad Mickey Ward retired, I wouldn't mind seeing him go against Arturo Gatti a couple more times, those fights (especially 1 and 3) were better than anything that's ever been on pay-per-view.

I'm calmed down now. There is no way in hell I'd pay to watch a boxing match.

 

[friedpie]

Man, white guys have a much harder time with those cuts than black guys do.

I guess white guys have thinner skin from living in northern climates? I don't know, there has to be a reason for it.

Lewis made a huge ass of himself. He could not give Vitali one ounce of credit or respect, his massive ego would not allow it. Guys like Lewis are not sportsman. If anyone saw the Gatti/Ward wars, now there was two classy sportsmen. They respected each other, the fact that boxing is a dangerous sport, etc. Lewis should be a rapper he's that arrogant. It's a shame because it takes away from his superior (usually) athletic skills.

 

[josphII]

a lot of people who root against lewis because he is arrogant should have heard what vitale had to say when his brother vladamir got his a$s handed to him by a no name in march. total sore loser. at least lewis has good reason to be cocky. and seriously, what did you expect lewis to say after the fight? and i dont disagree with what he was saying about how vitale wouldnt have been able to finish the fight, because he wouldnt have been able to. and for the record the fight should have been called two rounds earlier.

i dont even know how to describe the cut... just below the left eyebrow and it was as bad as i have ever seen. vitale also had two minor cuts right under that same eye and his lip was bleeding. the man was gushing blood from like four spots on his face. lewis clearly had less energy but vitale's face was just plain jacked up.

 

[stormbv]

What do you expect? These guys take blows to the head for a living

 

[josphII]

Originally posted by: friedpie

Man, white guys have a much harder time with those cuts than black guys do.

I guess white guys have thinner skin from living in northern climates? I don't know, there has to be a reason for it.

Lewis made a huge ass of himself. He could not give Vitali one ounce of credit or respect, his massive ego would not allow it. Guys like Lewis are not sportsman. If anyone saw the Gatti/Ward wars, now there was two classy sportsmen. They respected each other, the fact that boxing is a dangerous sport, etc. Lewis should be a rapper he's that arrogant. It's a shame because it takes away from his superior (usually) athletic skills.

your going a little overboard. in one of the rounds lewis helped vitale up off the canvas when he inadvertently fell, not too many boxers would do that. he did say several times in the post match interview that he respects vitale as the #1 contender. but in all seriousness lewis is one of the great champions of the sport and quite frankly vitale is nothing. even what appeared to be a totally out of shape lewis was still able to smash vitale's face. vitale had just two or three more rounds in him at the most, the cut was just too bad. but yeah lewis is arrogant - and has the credentials and skill to back it up.

 

[friedpie]

your going a little overboard. in one of the rounds lewis helped vitale up off the canvas when he inadvertently fell, not too many boxers would do that. he did say several times in the post match interview that he respects vitale as the #1 contender. but in all seriousness lewis is one of the great champions of the sport and quite frankly vitale is nothing. even what appeared to be a totally out of shape lewis was still able to smash vitale's face. vitale had just two or three more rounds in him at the most, the cut was just too bad. but yeah lewis is arrogant - and has the credentials and skill to back it up.

Yes, you are right, he helped him up.

He didn't, however, give him respect after the fight. Before the fight all Lewis did was disrespect him saying he didn't have a chance. Well, he showed Lewis otherwise. All Larry wanted was for Lewis to acknowledge it. He just couldn't.

As for your comment about having the skills to back it up, that's one problem I have today with people. Everyone thinks it is OK to be arrogant if you are a champion. It used to be being champion spoke of itself, no trash talking was necessary. Now everyone's a stinking showboat. I blame MTV. lol

 

[friedpie]

Picture of Vitali's shredded face

What you can't really see in this pic is how badly his mouth was cut. During the post-fight interview a big chunk of torn lip was dangling and flapping about. It was ghastly.

The guy proved he's a warrior.

 

[josphII]

As for your comment about having the skills to back it up, that's one problem I have today with people. Everyone thinks it is OK to be arrogant if you are a champion. It used to be being champion spoke of itself, no trash talking was necessary. Now everyone's a stinking showboat. I blame MTV. lol

yeah but the biggest trash talker of all time, in any sport, is muhammad ali

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: josphII

As for your comment about having the skills to back it up, that's one problem I have today with people. Everyone thinks it is OK to be arrogant if you are a champion. It used to be being champion spoke of itself, no trash talking was necessary. Now everyone's a stinking showboat. I blame MTV. lol

yeah but the biggest trash talker of all time, in any sport, is muhammad ali

Yes, but atleast he was relatively intelligent in the way he did it.
I'd say that Tyson takes the cake for biggest trash talker. Trash being the key word.

 

[Phuz]

OUCH.

Klitschko is a tough man.

edit: Fausto1, so you still think the fight should have gone on? Look at his face. His cheek bone is about to pop out.

 

[BruceLee]

Lots of things goin on in this thread.

First off, Lennox is an absolute punk, and this is why he has NO fans. Trust me, as much as any one of you hate him, there are thousand upon thousands who feel the same way. The guy has some skills, but tonight he looked disgustingly horrible. He showed up so out of shape it was a disgrace for him to walk away from the ring with the title belts. He can say whatever he wants after the fight, and be as stupid as he always is, but the fans know the truth, and you heard it after the fight. Vitaly showed a lot of heart, especially after the Bird fiasco (kinda makes you wonder just how much pain he was in that night, or how much he has changed since then, that eye was a horrific site to see). He obviously is a better fighter than Wlad at this point it seems (took a few Lennox shots and wasn't dazed at all during the fight). Wlad went down after the first Sanders shot, and doesn't look as good as his brother in the ring. I can tell you that after this fight, more people will finally start to see Lennox as the fraud that he is. All the idiots in the media say he is one of the top 5 heavyweights of all time, and they know nothing. He has not fought anyone good (Tyson and Holyfield were both bums by the time he got them, and his 2 losses were to even bigger bums), yet people will compare him to people like Joe Loius and the like. They always go to the "ohh well he would slaughter him if they fought". Duhh jackass, the guy is in a totally different era, and that is one that people are actually even allowed to lift weights. He is a very good fighther, but he isn't a top10 fighter by any means. Vitaly was winning the fight, and although his face was disassembled, he would have won. You also have to remember that after the cut on his eye he couldn't see anything out of it. So all those other cuts he received really were from only being able to see out of 1 eye (pretty damn impressive to be winning with only one eye). Obviously Lennox knows he was losing, but instead of say look I came in unfit he just says I would have beaten him, I was getting to him. The guy was so tired, it was a joke. Every jab he threw he was lunging and falling all over the place, he was clearly looking for one big shot to end it which everyone knows is a sure fire way to lose a fight. If Vitaly could have adapted his style a bit and throw more combinations after a big right he could have knocked Lennox out easily (Unfortunately he has that Euro style of jabbing and backing up only throwing 1 or 2 shots at a time). I personally think the rematch will happen, but things will be different. I think Lennox knows this guy is for real now, and he will come into the ring in much better shape. I think he will take it for sure too, because he heard the fans after fight, and he knows no one likes him. If he could beat Vitaly he would prove to everyone that he is the better fighter, and that he does deserve the title. I think after that fight happens he will then take on RJJ (who will beat the guys he has to in order to fight Lennox). The only thing I can say is that whatever happens, the heavyweight division just got a little more exciting, and this Klit looks for real. He definitely restored his family's name, and I really think this guy has a bright future. I just hope he can make adjustments to Lennox's style for the rematch (if it happens), and that way Lennox will just die off and never be heard from again (God I hate a British guy having the title).

edit: That face is disgusting, man that guy has some balls to keep goin back in after that happened. I really respect that guy after tonight.

 

[DieselUV]

Have you guys forgotten that he wasn't supposed to fight Klitschko? He didn't have to prepare as hard for that other guy. If you all think Lewis will come to a rematch in the same shape, you have another thing coming. Remember how badly he beat Rahman the second time around? He wasted no time. Tyson?

 

[tokamak]

wow what a great fight. i never thought i'd say this but it was almost too brutal for me. i think klitschko made a helluva lot of fans tonight, including me. that guy is about as tough as they come. too bad about the cut, i think he might have been able to pull off the upset if it hadn't happened. looked to me like it was just a glancing blow from lewis that caught the side of klitschko's head with the side of lewis' glove (thumb area) that did it. just a freak occurance. i would love to see a rematch, and would even consider paying for it. doubt lewis will give it to him though. didnt see any of the gotti-wards but larry merchant said this one was right up there with them until it got stopped. merchant cracks me up. hes not afraid to ask boxers anything. one time he was talking about john ruiz and he said, "ruiz is a quiet man....and he has much to be quiet about" lol

 

[BruceLee]

No this fight wasn't up there with Gatti-Ward, don't listen to Merchant, you will be better off. I saw all three fights with those two, and let me tell you those were the most action packed fights I have ever seen, by far. Merchant is old, and although he knows his stuff (and did a great job with the Lennox interview afterwards, I don't know how anyone could have kept the interview going with that idiot), it is hard to listen to him for more than 30 seconds. Gatti-Ward was a once in a lifetime deal, and even #2 was better than 90% of the fights you will regularly see. Just remember that everyone is biased when it comes to heavyweights.

 

[NeoV]

Lewis gave him plenty of credit afterward...he said he is a legit #1 contender...

Lewis also won the 6th round, so I think it was clear that Klits was slowing down and the eye was bothering him...I would agree that he would have had a hard time finishing the fight.

I'd like to see a rematch, and hopefully cuts don't decided it. I assure you that Lewis will be in better shape than he was for this fight.


Jim Lampley, who I think knows as much about boxing as anyone on the planet, and certainly more about boxing than everyone on ATOT put together, says Lewis is a top 5 all-time heavyweight - that is good enough for me. You may not like him, but he is a great champion. I wish Riddick Bowe had kept his ass out of trouble, he and Lewis could have continued their great amateur rivalry in the pro ranks.

 

[BruceLee]

Originally posted by: NeoV
Jim Lampley, who I think knows as much about boxing as anyone on the planet, and certainly more about boxing than everyone on ATOT put together, says Lewis is a top 5 all-time heavyweight - that is good enough for me. You may not like him, but he is a great champion.

Jim Lampley works for HBO which owns Lennox. Insert boxing politics and you have the reason Jim Lampley says what he does. I don't care what kind of knowledge he has, the facts don't lie and that is he got rocked by 2 guys who were bums. Also, Riddick Bowe had a lot of talent, but he just got fat, I would have loved to have seen him still going strong. I will just not buy the fact that Lennox is anywhere close to the top5. He hasn't shown me that, and I have seen tons of older fights.

Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Muhammed Ali

And you mean to tell me you would put Lennox Lewis next to those names??? Sorry, but this guy is not anywhere close to the level of those fighters, and he has not transcended the sport the way they did. You are free to think the way that you do, but all I am saying is I SERIOUSLY doubt the majority of boxing fans think Lennox Lewis is a top5 guy.

 

[Aceshigh]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: stormbv
Damn! I never watch boxing, but that was amazing! That gash over Klitschko's eye was huge, but he kept fighting hard. I loved how the crowd cheered for him after it was called.

I will definitely start watching boxing more. Hell, I'd even pay to watch the rematch!

Don't let one good fight goad you into paying $60 for the next pay-per-view. Every now and then you hit a classic, but too often you get stuck with either a dull fight where they dance and grab for 12 rounds or a mismatch that's over in 2. Almost always the more money you pay for a fight the worse it turns out in the end. That's why I like HBO, if the fight sucks you have not lost anything. Too bad Mickey Ward retired, I wouldn't mind seeing him go against Arturo Gatti a couple more times, those fights (especially 1 and 3) were better than anything that's ever been on pay-per-view.

Yep, the best fight ive ever seen (and what I feel is the best fight of the last 15 years) wasn't even on a PPV. It was on regular Showtime.

Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan. If you get the chance try to find a tape of that fight. It was classic back and forth Rocky-like action (and ultimately tragic).

Benn got knocked through the ropes and outside the ring just seconds into the first round, making it back in the ring right before the 10 count. Both men were knocked down multiple times and fought back to take the lead in the fight. The fight ended in the last round when Gerald McClellan developed a blood clot in his brain. He survived but lost his vision and alot of memory.