Lian Li really worth it?

fumbduck

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I am ordering the parts to put together my new p4 system, and the subject of case came up.

Originally i was looking at this Maxtop Case
which has these specs: MAXTOP 147KG2F-USB BLUE **Cool Case**3 Additional Fans : 1 x on the Top Panel, 1 x on the Side Panel, 1x Power Supply Fan** Intel P4/AMD Ready Two Fans 7-bay Front USB Connector 350W Power Supply Mid Tower PC CASE
It is 49 + 15$shipping, and i was ognna paint it to my liking.


Then i saw this case at Directron
which is 53 shipped with no power supply.

But while browsing around i fell in love with this case, but not with the price LianLi@ Directron
It is 110+shipping, and no power supply.

This brings me to my dilemma, is it really worth it?
 

gunf1ghter

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Well, there are considerations when it comes to the choice of a case... some of the considerations are more important than other ones.

For me the most important consideration is the type of cooling the case provides... one of the reasons I chose the ANTEC 830 case is that it has two front and two rear fans for excellent cooling airflow through the case... I bought a $15 accessory that brought USB, Firewire and audio ports to the front of the case on a floppy drive bay.

Another consideration is how easy the case is to work on... is it quickly and easily dis-assembled or are all kinds of things in the way that have to be dis-assembled and un-screwed?

The aesthetics (for me) come last... when it really boils down to it I don't give a crap how my case looks, I'm not out to impress anyone.

The only advantage of an aluminum case to me is that they are much, much lighter than steel cases which is a plus if you attend regular lan parties... that's about the only reason I would consider buying one.
 

lastig21

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I have a Lian Li PC62, and have to admit that it is the highest quality case I've ever seen. Everything has thumbscrews, its very light (as I'm sure most aluminum case are), there are no sharp edges, and it came with a blue power led. Because it didn't some with a psu, I don't really think it was worth the money. I had a store credit at Directron though, and really only needed a case at the time, so thats why I have mine.

I have been to Directron several times, and they always have about 30-50 cases in the lobby. The cases have been opened and no longer have boxes. They can't ship these cases and mark them down about 20% off their online price. If you have any free time, it might be worth the drive to Houston to check them out. They usually have some pretty cool cases that were sent to them to check out that they decided not to stock. You don't see those for sell on the website. In person, you can talk them down off their prices as well, especially if you buy some other stuff with the case.
 

fumbduck

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well i live in houston, so its not a far drive. I just might do that. Thanks for the advice.

On another note. i do go to a lot of lan parties, infact i spent 2 nights home this whole spring break, the rest were at lan parties. i dont mind carrying around my steel case, it doesnt weigh that much, but thats why i want to stick with a mid tower, because anything bigger is too much of a hassle to carry to lans.

Also, i'll look into those antec cases, and thanks for the advice.
 

jordo

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i certainly think it was worth buying one. i work on the computer a lot, and there is nothing like the convieniance of a lian li if you do so.

another benefit of the aluminium is that it is indeed cooler than a steel case, i noticed a marked temperature decrease over my previous case, even with fewer fans.
 

herbage11

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I dont have a whole lot of expertise on different cases but I just got a Chieftec (Antec SX1040B) with a 420 watt power supply for $74+s/h on newegg. It is a great case, not lite for sure, but I like it. Should have plenty of power and has spots for 4 80mm fans but did not include any. But for under $100 to my door w/ massive 420 watts of power I must say I am happy. Good luck in your hunt.
herb
 

gunf1ghter

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The whole temperature thing is probably only a concern if you already have a heating problem, or are considering o/c'ing your rig to ridulous speeds.
 

jordo

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<< The whole temperature thing is probably only a concern if you already have a heating problem, or are considering o/c'ing your rig to ridulous speeds. >>



in my case it was a plus because it allows me to run with fewer fans, hence quieter...
 

Antz

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Actually I was there just this friday and they had various Lian Li Aluminum cases and also it's 33% off those display cases
 

CubicZirconia

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I own the lian li pc 65 and I love it. I'll be honest, I really bought the case because I like the way it looks. However, it is an excellent case. It's super light, easy to disassemble, and has 8 3.5 bays. Plus, a case is something that isn't really replaced every year or so like a video card. I'm justifying buying one here, cause its just so awesome. My answer: yes, its worth it.
 

KentW

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YES!!! I just bought a Lian-Li PC60 and I can honestly say it's the best case I have ever owned. Spend the extra $. You won't be disappointed. I was thinking the same thing you are. Buy one or not? I'm so glad I did. The case is just awesome! Very well built. Well, enough said I guess. I could go on and on and on...
 

Woodchuck2000

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To answer the question - Yes, yes, yes.

If you can afford it, get a PC-60 - I don't think the PC-7 has a sliding motherboard tray, which is one of the most useful features I've come across.

Overall, the PC-60 oozes quality, and I would thoroughly recommend it. I assume the PC-7 is a similar build quality and if that is the case, you'll be very happy with it.
 

DongTran

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Yeah, I got a Lian-Li PC60USB, and it is the highest quality case I've worked with. I loved it so much in fact, I bought another one! My PC35 for lanparties is on it's way from Taiwan

Yeah, it's expensive, but before my Lian-Li I would go through cases like every 3 months until I find one with features and whatnot that I like....
 

Neuroanatomist

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I have a LianLi PC-60 (PC65 with the side window) and I think it's a great case. Certainly a lot better than the last aluminum case I bought (blue aluminum anodized plate, Chili Professional 1/4") or last cube mini-server case (YeongYang 0221)

The Lian Li PC60 certainly is well built. The PC7 is the identical case, EXCEPT
1) no slideout motherboard tray
2) no slideout powersupply mount
4) no front fan speed adjustement (no three selector switch)
5) also the 6 screws for the expansion PCI cards are regular screws (not thumbscrews).

However, the PC7 is about $40 less (approx. 20%) than the PC60.

The slideout motherboard and powersupply trays are useful.. their real usefulness would really depend on how much you swap motherboards/PSUs.

The same goes for the lack of thumbscrews on the PCI slots. If you you really need to have thumbscrews you could just swap the regular screws for the other 8-10 thumbscrews that are located in other parts in the PC7 (3 on floppy drive bay, 2 on HD bay, 4 or back, 1-2 extra in bag).

For the front fan speed selector, I've just installed two L1A panaflos and have never touched the switch.

If you are going to swap hardware alot and be in and out of the case on a daily basis.. then the PC60 is better.

If you are going to build a PC for a friend who will less rarely "open the box", then the PC7 is a better buy.

Also, if you like the window on the PC65, you could also buy it as a separate purchase down the road ($30) and it will also fit the PC7.

review on LianLi PC7 case
 

Mitzi

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<< Yeah, I got a Lian-Li PC60USB, and it is the highest quality case I've worked with

Yeah, it's expensive, but before my Lian-Li I would go through cases like every 3 months until I find one with features and whatnot that I like....
>>



I have a PC60USB and that echos my sentiments exactly. Well worth the cash (and I had to pay considerably more than what you guys can get them for ).
 

DongTran

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<< I have a LianLi PC-60 (PC65 with the side window) and I think it's a great case. Certainly a lot better than the last aluminum case I bought (blue aluminum anodized plate, Chili Professional 1/4") or last cube mini-server case (YeongYang 0221) >>



How come you didn't like your Chilli? I got one for my girlfriend and she's totally likes everything about it (aside from the fact that she can't pick it up lol). I was actually thinking of getting the mini-cube, why didn't you like yours? I wish Lian-Li made something the size of the mini-cube....
 

Soldat

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well i'm of the mindset that you simply cannot beat the antec 600/800/1000 series for the money......does anyone out there own or has owned both the Lian-Li and the antecs? If so how do they compare? I have to admit i've been tempted by the lian li on occasion but have somehow managed to resist spending the money up to this point
 

Neuroanatomist

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DongTran,

Both cases are still in my top 10 of all cases (I must have bought 2 dozen different cases over the past 4 years). LianLi PC60/65 is still #1.

Chili Professional 1/4" Chili Pro case at wahoocomptuers.com

PROS
+ 1/4" thick aluminum plate construction looks industrial
+ blue anodized color and nice 2-3mm blue and red LEDs and quality power button
+ matching blue, sliding metal door to cover drive bays
+ small footprint on desk
+ (no one else in the world has seen it before, and I get that ooh factor from other geeks)

CONS
- due to its construction, you have to take off 8 hex screws to get the cover off. Often you need to take both sides off to get to motherboard.
- its small form factor makes it a tight build.. kind of like working with mATX or flexATX case
- got really high temperatures with the lack of interior breathing space. I had to add a 2nd fan to the powersupply, add a PCI slot fan and install another 80mm fan on the bottom of the case to get reasonable temps on a Tbird 1Ghz (not overclocked)
- after a month of screwing and unscrewing the side aluminum plate, the side panel started to get scratched and you could see the aluminum through the blue.
- after a while, I would regret to have to work on the 'puter and would put off tinkering with the components once I got them set. Definitely a pain in the butt case and not worth $189

SUMMARY: It had clean industrial looks and a small footprint, but was not very functional... the kind of thing that you "set it and forget it"



YeongYang 0221 black cube case at caseoutlet.com

PROS
+ cube shape was unique
+ lots of space for HDs and optical drives
+ interior of the case is divided along the midline.. allowing you to mount the motherboard the left side and the drives on the right side in separate compartments. Very easy access to get in and out of
+ lots of potential for extra cooling and mods.. also, because it was a cube.. it was easier to transport in the backseat of the car (not top heavy, and it is a rugged case that can take a beating, unlike a aluminum case)

CONS
- build quality was less than I expected. It was better than the average Enlight or Inwin but a lower build quality than the Antec 1030 or Supermicro 760 I also have.
- front face is held on with metal clips. It's ok, but the connection is not as tight or well-engineered as the clip system of the Lian Li front panel.
- exterior is painted black, but there is alot of overspray paint marks on the interior of the case. The paintjob looks fine when everything is buttoned up.. but once you open the butterfly doors, you can see that the painter was lazy and didn't bother to tape.

SUMMARY: Cube case had unique looks, but if you don't really need 13 drive bays, this case is overkill. You would need to have alot of hardware (mine is filled with five SCSI hard drives and two SCSI Plextors, 50GB Onstream tape backup, two removable IDE HD trays) to make it worth having. If you are into watercooling or heavy overclocking, you could put ALOT of fans in this and get good results.

(In fact, you could probably mount the case outside and your neighbors would think it's just your air conditioning unit making all the noise) (j/k). But for $189, there are better cases

My top cases (that I've owned and built with)
1. Lian Li PC65 mid-tower
2. Antec SX1030 mid-tower
3. Supermicro 760 full-tower
4. Yeong Yang YY0221 cube case
5. clear plexiglass mid-tower from www.clearviewtech.com
6. Chilli Professional 1/4" mini tower
7. Shuttle SV24 flexATX alumininum cube case
8. Directon's PIA mATX cube case
9. full tower case by Enermax (black tower with numeric LED) (was on the 1999 cover of Maximum PC rig of the year)
10. Antec SX600 mini-tower (good all-around starter case.. built a half-dozen 'puters for work/friends on this chassis) ($32.84 + shipping at www.provantage.com)

 

DongTran

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Wow I own all of your top ten besides the Antecs and the Yeong Yang (not to sound big-headed or anything, just a big coinkydinky)

BTW, I dremeled out my PIA for an ATX power supply (I had an Enermax in there) but I don't use it anymore now that I got a Chilli for the girly, if someone wants to buy it from me for like $25 or somethin e-mail me it's chillin in my living room collecting dust lol
 

fumbduck

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im gonna head to directron sometime this week and pick up a PC-7, PC-65, PC-60, or PC-6X LIAN LI, which ever is on sale..
 

DukeChestnut

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get the 65 dude. with the window u'll be able to trick it out a little more. i.e. cathode lights or wutever.
 

jsproul

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I'm really happy with my Lian-Li PC60USB. However, you may want to buy some rubber washers and Surface Gard 60mm x 13mm self-adhesive non-skid pads to prevent the PSU from vibrating against the case. I've also replaced the rear built-in fan with a PCP&C Silencer and plan to replace the front fans with Silencers as soon as I can find a 3-pin tailing kit.
 
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