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Pabster

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Originally posted by: Genx87
btw I will say this, bbonds response in this thread was one of the funniest I have seen in P&N in a few months.

Agreed. After listening to the parroting about Rove going down and the Administration crashing, and how Republicans were going to attack Fitzgerald, the irony in Bond's comments is quite amusing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

zendari

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Mr. Tough Guy -- "Fitzie" -- proves to be just another in a long line of Bush administration lackies.

This is why America is in the fvcked up state it's in. Rove will skate because his attorneys met all week with the prosecutor and "helped" him determine that Rove did nothing wrong.

Bullsh!t.

Lackies will be lackies, Rove will continue to conduct what has laughingly become politics as usual in America, and America will continue to reap what Bush sews.

You people are going to wind up with exactly what you deserve but it really doesn't matter because you'll never even WTFU and realize it.

Pleasant dreams.

Tough guy Bond attacks the Prosecutor???

But I thought Rove was a sinking ship?

22 months of investigation, millions of taxpayers dollars wasted, and all we've got is a rush-rush last minute indictment to save face.


BBond had no problems with Fitzgerald:

Leak Prosecutor is called Exacting and Apolitical (less than a week ago)
CIA leak probe 'widening to include use of intelligence'

News Orgs Working On Stories Tying Cheney Into Plamegate?


LMAO!:laugh: :thumbsup:
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Mr. Tough Guy -- "Fitzie" -- proves to be just another in a long line of Bush administration lackies.

This is why America is in the fvcked up state it's in. Rove will skate because his attorneys met all week with the prosecutor and "helped" him determine that Rove did nothing wrong.

Bullsh!t.

Lackies will be lackies, Rove will continue to conduct what has laughingly become politics as usual in America, and America will continue to reap what Bush sews.

You people are going to wind up with exactly what you deserve but it really doesn't matter because you'll never even WTFU and realize it.

Pleasant dreams.

Tough guy Bond attacks the Prosecutor???

But I thought Rove was a sinking ship?

22 months of investigation, millions of taxpayers dollars wasted, and all we've got is a rush-rush last minute indictment to save face.


BBond had no problems with Fitzgerald:

Leak Prosecutor is called Exacting and Apolitical (less than a week ago)
CIA leak probe 'widening to include use of intelligence'

News Orgs Working On Stories Tying Cheney Into Plamegate?


LMAO!:laugh: :thumbsup:

Nothing like comedy at bbonds expense lmao
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Mr. Tough Guy -- "Fitzie" -- proves to be just another in a long line of Bush administration lackies.

This is why America is in the fvcked up state it's in. Rove will skate because his attorneys met all week with the prosecutor and "helped" him determine that Rove did nothing wrong.

Bullsh!t.

Lackies will be lackies, Rove will continue to conduct what has laughingly become politics as usual in America, and America will continue to reap what Bush sews.

You people are going to wind up with exactly what you deserve but it really doesn't matter because you'll never even WTFU and realize it.

Pleasant dreams.

Tough guy Bond attacks the Prosecutor???

But I thought Rove was a sinking ship?

22 months of investigation, millions of taxpayers dollars wasted, and all we've got is a rush-rush last minute indictment to save face.

It's all Clintons fault.
 

Pabster

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
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I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.
 

totalcommand

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Apr 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: BBond
Mr. Tough Guy -- "Fitzie" -- proves to be just another in a long line of Bush administration lackies.

This is why America is in the fvcked up state it's in. Rove will skate because his attorneys met all week with the prosecutor and "helped" him determine that Rove did nothing wrong.

Bullsh!t.

Lackies will be lackies, Rove will continue to conduct what has laughingly become politics as usual in America, and America will continue to reap what Bush sews.

You people are going to wind up with exactly what you deserve but it really doesn't matter because you'll never even WTFU and realize it.

Pleasant dreams.

Tough guy Bond attacks the Prosecutor???

But I thought Rove was a sinking ship?

22 months of investigation, millions of taxpayers dollars wasted, and all we've got is a rush-rush last minute indictment to save face.


BBond had no problems with Fitzgerald:

Leak Prosecutor is called Exacting and Apolitical (less than a week ago)
CIA leak probe 'widening to include use of intelligence'

News Orgs Working On Stories Tying Cheney Into Plamegate?


LMAO!:laugh: :thumbsup:

I really don't know what you're complaining about BBOnd.

So far, one top, top official has been indicted, and it is very likely that "Fitzie" has already turned (given pleas to) a couple of lower officials in order to go after Rove.

If anything, Repubs should be furious that Fitzie didn't close this investigation for good - I can't see any real reason to keep a Grand Jury going at this point, especially since the evidence needed to file those charges must already be present at the time.
 

Aegeon

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Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.
YOU might want to read the actual indictment WAY more carefully. Libby lied twice to FBI agents who interviewed him while investigating the original leak, and twice in front of the grand jury on this matter. Your claim on this matter is simply wrong.
 

totalcommand

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Apr 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.

You're missing more than half of it.

From the current evidence, he had clear intent, since he stated both to investigators, and to a grand jury, on separate occasions that he had learned the information "as new" from Reporters, and passed it to Reporters. Furthermore, he was the first person to leak it to reporters.

That turned out to be false, as he was told and inquired repeatedly in the days before his phone call with Russert who Plame was and what her relation to Wilson was.

This is in addition to the false statements about his conversation with Russert.

Unless Libby brings up new evidence himself, I think the charges will stick.

I think people are underestimating how smart Fitzie is. If his press conference is any indication, he is pretty deft.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Jan 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I truly believe that Bush needs to clean house, fire his entire staff and rehire good, honest, qualified people. No more cronies, lackies, or college buddies. This is his chance to pick himself up again and make something of his lackluster second term. Sadly, this will probably never happen.

I thought Bush was elected to clean house? What happened to that honor and dignity thing in the White House?

I would agree...except for Condi. She rocks my world and will defeat Hillary in 2008!

:laugh:

I don't think Condi is into men . . . well at least not intelligent ones.

Either is Hillary so they got that in common.

but do you really think Condi would win the GOP nomination? i just can't see them voting for her.


No idea, it is too far off. I think she is qualified but too much can happen in 3 years.
I can gurantee you one thing, if a choice is 4 years of Hillarys whining or Condi came up. The GOP will gladly go with Condi.

I haven't seen Condi as a "leader" in any way thus far. She seems to be merely a mouthpiece for the Bush administration's agenda.


That is fine as you will vote for Hillary either way. Rice has been around the world more than a few times and brokered deals with N.Korea and Isreal\Pally.

I would say so far into the first year of service she has accomplished quite a bit. Far more than people give her credit for, and honestly more than either of her last couple of predecessors through 2 administrations..

Uh, it doesn't look like Rice has done much brokering of deals with N.Korea and Israel/Palestine. Both of those situations look like royal fluster clucks.

You must really be delusional if you think Rice accomplished more than Powell. The man literally sold a war using information that even he didn't believe. That's mad skillz!
 

arsbanned

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Dec 12, 2003
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Genx87
btw I will say this, bbonds response in this thread was one of the funniest I have seen in P&N in a few months.

Agreed. After listening to the parroting about Rove going down and the Administration crashing, and how Republicans were going to attack Fitzgerald, the irony in Bond's comments is quite amusing :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


YOU precisely are what makes it ridiculous, or "funny" as you put it, you and your pseudo intellectualism, your uneducated table pounding.
"Parroting" indeed.
By the way. The special counsel in this case is not necessarily finished, and the charges have at least caused one of the chief proponents of the Iraq folly to be jettisoned. More may follow. It's not over yet, small man.
 

Gaard

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Feb 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Aegeon
Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.
YOU might want to read the actual indictment WAY more carefully. Libby lied twice to FBI agents who interviewed him while investigating the original leak, and twice in front of the grand jury on this matter. Your claim on this matter is simply wrong.
Pabsie, let me speak for ya, buddy, so you don't have to say it..."Ooops, I was wrong".

 

slyedog

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
Too bad if convicted he will go toa country club prison. Would be much more entertaining to see him get dropped into a real prison somewhere. With a nickname like Scooter you know he would be popular.

That would be hillarious if some of these Bushies ended up in prison, got gangraped, and ended up dying of AIDS. Imagine Carl Rove dying of AIDS after a guy named Big Gay Al got him.

Nah, it won't happen. They'll end up in posh country club prisons. Then again, they probably won't get convicted of anything at all and even if they do, they'll probably just end up paying fines or being put on probation or house arrest.

I'd say this is far, far worse than Clinton getting blow jobs in the Oval Office. The outting of the CIA agent put a couple people's lives in danger, damaged our national security, and counts as treason in my book. Perhaps Bush and his gang should be sent to the gallows. Nah--I'd rather see them branded as traitors, their assets seized, and have them locked down in a maximum security prison for a life sentence. Now that would be funny. Of course, for the worst president in the history of the nation, the president who gleefully oversaw the beginning of the transformation of the nation into a third world country, even that punishment might not be enough.

are you this mean every day?

 

ShadesOfGrey

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Originally posted by: Gaard
It's hilarious how some here are apologists to the end.

I agree. It's looking like alot of people aren't happy that it was only Libby and that it had nothing to do with the so-called "leak". Well, i'm quite sure that those people will continue to be disappointed because they've put so much into claiming that there was a crime in telling the truth about Wilson, his wife, and his trip.
 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.

Yeah, very laughable. The Chief-of-Staff for the Vice President of the United States has been INDICTED on Federal charges, including PERJURY, during what BUSH has called "a very professional, dignified" investigation. It's just hilarious. :roll:
Notice I said "during". Or did I not get the memo and it's over....
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey
Originally posted by: Gaard
It's hilarious how some here are apologists to the end.

I agree. It's looking like alot of people aren't happy that it was only Libby and that it had nothing to do with the so-called "leak". Well, i'm quite sure that those people will continue to be disappointed because they've put so much into claiming that there was a crime in telling the truth about Wilson, his wife, and his trip.

Where do you lying sacks come up with this sh!t. This is a story about an attempt to fabricate lies and put them forth as justifications that would permit the President to send thousands of Americans to their deaths in a Neocon ideologically conceived New American Century War and US business model domination of the world based on the assessment that only imminent danger would galvanize the American people to get it on.

It was for that reason that a separate Iraq intelligence agency was set up in the basement of the White House designed to gin up all sorts of fabrications about WMD including the purchase form an Italian General of known forgeries about yellow cake uranium and pass them of to the people as a nuke in their back yard. And it was this massive, organized effort to swindle the American of its lives and treasury out or terror and fear that cause the admin to go after Wilson. His probing was threatening to blow the entire lid on this corruption. They were counting on the fact that so so many Americans, once suckered, would chose to deny it happened and dream on about how we saved the Iraqi people and ourselves from WMD. The saw that their is a fool born every minute is a vast underestimation. The only hope this nation has is with people like this Fitzgerald and not the Bush administration where Democracy is something you secretly work to get around.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.

You are one mentally disturbed person.

 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.

You are one mentally disturbed person.
Your quote above applies perfectly, Moonie.

The saw that "there is a fool born every minute" is a vast underestimation.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Pabster
I wonder how many here have read the actual indictment. I find the perjury and false statement allegations pretty laughable. They all revolve around Libby's (inaccurate) portrayal and recital of an interview that Tim Russert of MTP conducted with him in 2003. When it comes to the evidence to support the intention to mislead the grand jury and obstruct the investigation, it is said that Libby lied to Russert?

It shall be rather interesting to see how this can stand up in court.

You are one mentally disturbed person.

notice how Pabster is all of a sudden silent....hehe. at least he's not making a further fool of himself.
 

Pabster

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I can tell who hasn't read the indictment here ... and who just stopped in for a troll ...

There was no phone call with Russert, the dispute is over a television interview on Meet The Press.

The reality is that the indictment is pathetic. It was a last-ditch "gotta have something" so Fitzie wasn't attacked for wasting 2 years and millions of dollars on a goose chase.

And speaking of the press conference ... it looks a lot like the first half of the indictment. All those nonsense about outing of a CIA employee, national security, et al. But what is funny is that Fitz himself admitted he couldn't charge anyone for those crimes.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
notice how Pabster is all of a sudden silent....hehe. at least he's not making a further fool of himself.

Unlike you, I don't spend the entirety of my time parroting around Internet message boards.

 

Aegeon

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Originally posted by: Pabster
I can tell who hasn't read the indictment here ... and who just stopped in for a troll ...

There was no phone call with Russert, the dispute is over a television interview on Meet The Press.

The reality is that the indictment is pathetic. It was a last-ditch "gotta have something" so Fitzie wasn't attacked for wasting 2 years and millions of dollars on a goose chase.

You're just making a fool of yourself at this point. The indictment is about Libby lying twice to FBI investigators and twice in front of a grand jury.

By the way, Fitzgerald spent a TOTAL of 1.2 million dollars on this investigation to this point, so the accusations of him blowing millions of dollars is also flat out wrong. Its also not giving him credit for being careful in his use of taxpayer money to an exceptional degree when compared to other investigators of similar matters in the past.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Aegeon
You're just making a fool of yourself at this point. The indictment is about Libby lying twice to FBI investigators and twice in front of a grand jury.

Um, "Fool", what is he accused of lying to FBI investigators and the Grand Jury about? Have you even read the indictment, or are you talking out your arse? Or perhaps you're having trouble comprehending it?

By the way, Fitzgerald spent a TOTAL of 1.2 million dollars on this investigation to this point, so the accusations of him blowing millions of dollars is also flat out wrong. Its also not giving him credit for being careful in his use of taxpayer money to an exceptional degree when compared to other investigators of similar matters in the past.

OK. I should have said wasting 1.2 million dollars to indict a ham sandwich is good use of taxpayer money.
 
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