Life dilemma looming...

Beev

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So my life is going to drastically change within the next 6 months, and it's causing me a great deal of stress. Since I'm not a very stressed person in general I feel like it is affecting me too much.

I posted before about how my (and others) position is being moved to Denver. They finally gave us a date: June 15. Upon learning that I thought it sounded like as good a time as any to get the hell out of Kansas (it's not terrible, but I don't particularly like it here). My lease is up at the end of September, and my girlfriend is moving back to south Florida because her parents are there, and she wants to be near them.

We both decided that I can just move with her because my company has a huge office in Orlando. The problem is I didn't know what to do for a job for the three months between June and September. My company is offering me severance, but if I take it I can't work for the company again for X period of time. My alternative was to take a temp position here in my current office doing work that I used to do here four years ago. It was a fantastic plan. I have my current position until 6/15 and then I do old grunt work for three months, then move to Orlando and get a new position still with the company (I've been talking to a recruiter down there).

Now they are only guaranteeing my temp position until July 1, a mere 16 days longer than my other job. They say I might be able to stay longer, but the guarantee is only until July 1, so I'm assuming (safely) that I am only staying until July 1. What should I do for the remaining three months? And to top it off, my girlfriend keeps asking if I'm sure I want to move, which makes me feel like she doesn't want me to. She says that isn't the case, and I believe her (hard to explain, but I know her thought process very well), but it still makes me uneasy.

I almost want to wash my hands of the whole situation and just move to Denver alone and keep my current job.

Update:

Well... damn. There ended up not being anything available for me in the Orlando office, and they filled my current position that's being moved to Denver, so on June 15th I'm done. I'll get two months of severance, though.

Now I have to decide what I should do. No matter where I am I have to hunt for a job. I don't want to stay here in Kansas, but is it worth the risk to move jobless? Kansas just isn't for me anymore so I want to leave, and this seems like a perfect opportunity to do so. I'm still looking at Denver because it's a change, but I don't know if the risk is worth it... /sigh

Update 2:

Amazing how nothing ever works out how you think.

I ended up getting another position in this same office, and so did my girlfriend. She wants to stay with me and is willing to stay here. I never thought I'd be staying here, especially not with her, especially not in the same office, and especially not in this position. Crazy.

At least I have a job.
 
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unxpurg8d

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I vote Denver - if it feels wrong, just don't go. You can always transfer later. The stress of job changes/moving on both of you would be tough on a relationship in the best of health.
 

rivan

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The unknown is always scary. What's worse (for me) is when I see it coming and can't really do much if anything to secure it.

Hang in there.
 

purbeast0

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well it sounds like you and your girlfriend aren't doing well simply from the explanation you mentioned above.

if that is the case, i'd go to denver alone and start over.
 

LucJoe

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Why not just start the new job in FL in July? The only thing keeping you in KS is an apartment lease? Not that hard to get out of...

And to top it off, my girlfriend keeps asking if I'm sure I want to move, which makes me feel like she doesn't want me to. She says that isn't the case, and I believe her (hard to explain, but I know her thought process very well), but it still makes me uneasy.

I wouldn't throw intuition out the window so easily...
 

Texashiker

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Why not have them lay you off so you can draw unemployment benefits for 3 months?

3 months of fishing, hiking, seeing the sights in Florida, and drawing unemployment checks, man it sounds like torture
 

Beev

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Thanks for the feedback so far, guys. It's very helpful.

Quick question: on average, if you get severance from a company how long do you have to wait before you can work for them again? (I sent an email to my HR department asking, but they are notoriously slow).
 

CPA

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Don't move for a girlfrield. Fiancee maybe, but girlfriend - Never. Go to Denver.

As for your working for them again, I know people in my company who have received severance then worked as a contractor for the company while receiving the severance! Yes, it's stupid, I agree.
 
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If you aren't 100% about this relationship then don't make mega huge life changes over it..

The fact that you're even considering staying in Denver, imo, means you probably should not pack up and move with a gf..
 

Beev

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If you aren't 100% about this relationship then don't make mega huge life changes over it..

The fact that you're even considering staying in Denver, imo, means you probably should not pack up and move with a gf..

I am in Kansas City. There is nothing for me in Denver except my old job, and even then I have to re-apply for it. Someone more qualified could easily get it over me. If that happened then I have no reason to go to Denver.
 

Lotheron

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Unless your dead set on working for your company, I wouldn't even consider them as an option. It doesn't appear they are showing any loyalty to you (they never do), so I'm not sure why you want to remain this loyal to them. There are many jobs out there so I would actually look for something else. Besides, moving companies is a very good way to get a compensation increase.

Also, I agree that it doesn't sound like your relationship is very sound. Her saying she "wants to be closer to her parents" kinda puts that into perspective. So my advice is to move where you want to move, albeit FL, CO, or wherever for what you want to do. If you want to move to FL to be close to her, do it, but do it because you want to move there, not that she's there. As said earlier, unless theres any sort of ring involved, there's no reason to uproot everything you know for something that doesn't sound very solid.

You also sound like you're young and not tied down. Take it from me, now is the time to take advantage of that.
 

unxpurg8d

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I am in Kansas City. There is nothing for me in Denver except my old job, and even then I have to re-apply for it. Someone more qualified could easily get it over me. If that happened then I have no reason to go to Denver.


Sounds like you've already really decided to move to Florida but are just waffling 'cause it's scary. GO. Florida is at least warm if you end up homeless.

Seriously, though, if there's nothing for you in either Kansas City or Denver and you can get another job in Florida go ahead and move. Just make sure that the place you're moving into is YOUR place and that you can afford it on only your income. That's not paranoid, just practical.
 

rasczak

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You're young man. Take advantage of that and travel around getting a good feel for the places your visiting. Then when you decide it's time to settle down, you'll have a good idea of where you want to be.
 

BurnItDwn

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Man, I know I've debated with you about other shit on these forums before, but on this, I'm just gonna stick to the facts.

1.) You're level headed.
2.) You know your situation.
3.) You have several options that all involve different risks and rewards.
A.) Move to Denver, best career move, would certainly test your relationship
B.) Move to FL, could be bad career move, might stress your relationship, but only way to keep it from being one of those dreaded long distance relationships.
C.) Stay in Kansas and watch the wheat or whatever there is to do


knowing these options, I'd choose Option A.

Highest Risk/Reward potential for career

It would be a very good test of your relationship. If you and your woman are both tortured every moment of the day by the thousands of miles of distance.... then you know you two really are meant to be together... and that you really should move to Orlando.... (after you've found gainful employment there)

Colorado seems a lot cooler than Florida... in terms of the people, as well as the weather
 

rasczak

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Why limit himself to Denver? Why not move to a completely differ t city altogether? He's essentially starting over so what better time to do something completely different and pick someplace he actually has an interest in. Op if your going to take charge of your life now is the opportunity to do so.
 

Beev

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I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner. Last night was spent doing a great deal of thinking and talking with my girlfriend.

First off, thanks a lot for the replies. The insight and advice is very helpful. I went ahead and applied for my old job that is going to Denver, and I have a call scheduled with a recruiter from the Orlando office on the 20th. I'm not always the best at communicating my thoughts or explaining situations very well, so I may need to go into more detail.

Our lease is up on September 30th. I'm not in a place in my life yet where I've been able to save, well, any money at all (mostly due to student loans), so I can't pay for two apartments. My girlfriend makes considerably less than I do, but still contributes a portion of the rent and does other household things. The additional time between July and September was great because it allowed us to put back a chunk of money to help us move.

If I get and take the position in Denver I will need to move there in late June or early July. If I am able to get something in Orlando then I still need to move in late June or early July because on July 1st I won't have a job here. I really, really needed to be here for the next three months to save money.

Now for the emotional part/problem. My girlfriend is going to go back to school, and she was going to go to UCF (her parents live ~3 hours away from Orlando). If I don't go to Orlando then her plans for school all fall apart. She is not just using me so she has a place in Orlando, I can't stress that enough. She is a good and kind person, and because of that, and my feelings for her, I want to help her. I know that I have to think of myself first, and I just do not want to stay in Kansas.

Wherever I go, though, there has to be an actual open position. The company cannot just add a position because they feel like it. It has to go through the proper channels. That's the reason I am only guaranteed here through July 1st; they aren't creating a position for me because they actually can't. Basically, at this point these are my concerns:

Denver seems like a bigger technology area, but my girlfriend also claims that both of the coasts are booming IT-wise. I have not done extensive research on my own yet.

I want my girlfriend to succeed at going back to school. She loves it, and hasn't been able to go back because of a lot of problems she's had in Kansas (she moved here for a guy). We also really enjoy each others company. It's one of those feelings where you just know exactly how the other person feels. She isn't trying to use me or screw me (in the bad way) at all.

If I move in July, she can't. She needs to keep working to save money until September. Actually, I just had the thought that she could move with me and transfer with her company (very easy to do) and just work through September :hmm:.

I just need to decide what is best for me. I'm turning 27 in eleven days. I'm (ideally) barely a quarter of the way through my life, so I should do what I feel is best for me, and if I can't stay with my girlfriend and have a nice job then I have to accept that and take the better job.

Mid-writing note: Just found out that two other people are already being interviewed for the Denver position and that they are going to offer the job to one of them. My boss is being kind enough to pass on my information to the QA (my field) recruiter in Denver, so I'll see how that goes...
 

Texashiker

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She is a good and kind person,

Out of everything that you said, I think that was the most important.

Jobs come and go, but good people are in short supply these days.

My opinion, having a good partner is better then having a good job. Money and jobs come and go, but your partner is there day after day, year after year.
 

Numenorean

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Also after seeing that she moved to KS for some guy, that may be why she is questioning if you want to move to FL for her. It didn't work out the best for her and she was stuck in KS, she doesn't want you to be stuck in FL. That's my take on it. Not that she doesn't want you to go.

I say go to FL and find a job there.

Though Florida sucks and is stupidly hot in the summer and I'm not sure why anyone would want to live there.
 
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Id rather go to Denver personally. Of course im also wanting to transfer from our Overland Park office to our Denver offfice as well someday. But with my company it doesnt seem as easy. They dont like to let people go it seems. You become TOO valuable LOL.

I guess ill just follow you around from KS to CO
 

chin311

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I hate Florida!!! my parents moved here when I was 6 and I'm still not out almost 20 years later!! Me and the wife plan on moving in 2 years though. But I'm sure somehow I'll remain trapped here in this hellhole.
 

Beev

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Weather-wise Denver is more appealing to me (I don't mind the cold or snow). I don't mind the heat either, but I run pretty hot in general, so I sweat a lot (odd considering I'm 6'1 and 170lbs) and feel dirty.
 
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