Lion vs. Tiger

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darkxshade

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Is that why Chicago Bears > Detroit Tigers & Lions?

I dunno where the Chicago Cubs fit in - in all of this.
 

69Mach1

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One of my Dads books about the Old West has a story about a fight between a grizzly and a a male African lion. Don't know if its true. Supposedly the Miners had hired some Vaqueros to rope a grizzly for them to fight in the arena against a bull. The Grizzly fought one day against a Longhorn bull and won but was gored. Someone stole a lion from the docks( it was supposed to be going to the zoo) and brought it to the arena and a match was set, with heavy betting going on. The Miners had won quite a bit of money betting on the bear, and bet on the bear to win again. When the animals were released in the arena the grizzly killed the lion with a single blow to the head, breaking its neck. The miners won enough money they paid the Vaqueros to release the bear back where they found it. Supposedly this took place during or right after the gold rush.
 

zinfamous

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Is this why we hear about tiger blood much more often than lion blood?

No, it's because the countries where they believe in that nonsense have tigers, not lions.

Though, the type of nonsense that they believe in countries with lions is that the limbs of an albino human will cure you of all sickness.
 

Silver Prime

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Well on a stand off point, I think history has recorded the lion would be the usual victor, but still I'd like to think of it as 50/50 in terms of male to male 1 on 1 prima vs prime, out of respect for both...for they have killed the other before, so it would just matter how many data can be accumilated in who won more.
 

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There are a whole bunch of tiger species. A male siberian though would beat a Lion most likely every time.

I think the Polar bear could take on both at the same time though
 

Silver Prime

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There are a whole bunch of tiger species. A male siberian though would beat a Lion most likely every time.

I think the Polar bear could take on both at the same time though

Nah mate, there are more records of asiatic an african lions beating siberian tigers than vice versa in captivity via= circus an pitfights.

I'd favor the caspian tiger over the amur any day, size plays a role with agressiveness, thats why the summatran tiger dosent give crap, he'd rush any size big cat suicidally, bengals live in more swampy areas so they have more stamina than amurs because amurs have to store more fat than any other tiger because of there climate, but caspian tigers can rival amurs in weight too...after all there habitats are right next to each other but they are more prone to the deserts heat so its like a combined attribute between a bengal and a siberian...which actually by map locations placements, would more so show thats what the caspian tiger is a Bengal x Amur.

As for your polar bear, big cats have taken out bears more in terms of historically documentation, so I'd favor the tiger an lion more often.
 

Silver Prime

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Where have you read about this stuff? That sounds interesting.

I've been searching for a while a few months in and out... playing around with googles search engine an trying to debate schallers, biologist, zoologist, enthusiast, an the average fan for fun...I accumilated what I think would be the basics, I havent dove deep into it yet because I'm limited with this old gal 2003 pc, which isint compatible with most softwares in finding what I want.

But I have more than the average which by data, (not my opinion) just data shows history has documented more of the lion winning. But wiki is quite laugh-able if you ask me...if you like I can show an match wiki an cover it in the same order...because I dont like to be random, I like to cover things in a "catagorie form" with only worth while an creditable data, not secoundary fan base sources.

So if you like, ask away in a catagorie of these 4...

#1 Opinions of experts,owners,trainers,zoologist/biologist.

#2 Size/Anatomy/Attributes.

#3 Historical documents of who killed the other more.

#4 What cultures have the documentation of who won in artifact form.

You must remember, I give it a 50/50 so dont let the data reflect me I just gathered it, nothing more.
 

Silver Prime

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Is there a way to erase your own post? I dont see the erase icon on this forum...anybody?

Edit=Oh, i guess I cant erase it then, my bad....

*Double post*
 
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Silver Prime

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I think the Polar bear could take on both at the same time though
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To your question earlier, I'll just post a few to show that although a bear of brown and or white has the size and power it dosent exclude lions and tigers from being able to kill them...


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Lion kills bruin the grizzly bear


As big as this bear is, an the fact that it mentions they looked at each other before the attack shows that size dosent play much of a intimidating role towards lions, well atleast similar sizes (not elephant type sizes 1 on 1) aiding the whole purpose they have manes, they are prone to intimidating, so toppled with the fact they can grow very large as well, the parality still leans towards a lion being more agressive and more the liable one to be the better fighter via willingness to being more experinced to fight x there already well establishments in having the most moralitys of killing there own kind. So a few hundred pounds may aid the bear in having a strength advantage but body builders wouldent hold a candle to a mma fighter,*besides lions "Rutinely" take out more powerfuller an animal who out weighs the bear 2-4x fold...Buffaloes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo4cGB0U4iQ
So I dont think a few hundred pounds is going to make a signifcant advantage of anything.
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Heres alfred courts one, theres a few other pictures of the polar bears, but his were quite small, I'd say no bigger than 1,200 pounds, but than again, the 2,200 pound polar bears are just as rare as a 950 pound lion lol

lion kills polar bear 1955 By Alfred Court.[Book]Pages 131-132,


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Just got another one of a lion killing 2 leopards an fighting a bear, it dosent say who won with the bear, but I'll see if other archives has more details an maybe pictures of the incident,...
lion kills 2 leopards an fights bear


Lions killing leopards comes to no surprise, in the wild I dont think there ever will be a situation where a leopard attacks an kills a male, the out come even in 2 to one wouldent fair well because they un-like lions dont have unity...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-fRSa2Sqt4
That actually says alot about the lion too, for its a learning process in terms of who the predator attacks, its quite intresting that felines of all speices tend to show no fear of bears, like how there are many accounts of leopards, jaguars and pumas holding there own an ambushing bears of black an brown reguardless of size an status same with leopards ambushing giant mountain gorillas yet again no storys of a leopard or leopard(s) ambushing a male lion? I think its because the (wild) male lion never hasent any real signs of fear emited other than crossing water or humans, but rivalery of other speice conflict in terms of combat. Startled by noise, or the unexpected? Of course, even elephants get startled by mice, but fearing an animal in an open display of dominace male to male?...there is little to none in the male lion. of course there is a no brainer like a 10,000 pound hippo comeing at you..you run, but I'm sure the bravest of lions have held bay the hard hitters before beknwonst it might be a lost cause...its also called "Gameness"

You know, Pitbulls? Thats what gives the biggest edge over a tiger...just my opinion.

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Besides, a tigers model social trait encountering another foe, is like...

Tiger= Dont you f*** with me!!!

A lions encountering another foe is like...

Lion= Lets go, B****!!!

The tiger is more of a defensive stance, an the lion a offensive stance.
lol
 
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