Are you seriously telling me that you would throw away a whole season just to satisfy ONE kid while you have FIFTEEN kids that are YOUR responsibility that finds out it's no fun to lose, especially when they lost INTENTIONALLY.. ?
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The little runt learned a valuable life lesson that day, and by the attitude he has in that quote, he learned it well. The problem with the world today is that kids are coddled in this naive blanket of "everyone is special" mediocrity.Originally posted by: Dragoon42
Link to Ownage"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Harsh words aside, this was a league founded upon the tenets of "everyone is special" mediocrity, and the game should have been played out that way.
in the end, im with dragoon42... kids today dont know how to deal with failure, stress, and demanding situations as well as previous generations iMO. we expect everything to be taken care of for us, the playing field made level for us, etc.
and i bet the coach would have walked the star hitter regardless of who was next. does he want to risk letting that kid score? hell no. if he's the best, whoever's next is worse, and therefore won't have as great a shot at beating them.
I guarantee you that 50 years ago, they would've not walked the kid. Please don't give me any of this BS about hardships and such, it's freaking PONY LEAGUE .
:disgust:
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
i very highly doubt that very many people agree that a little league's coach primary job is to make sure his team wins.Originally posted by: DBL
I'd have walked the batter. It's your job as coach to put your team in the best position to win.
If the kid is so sick, why have him play in the first place? If he is just a bad player, who also happens to have cancer, then those angry are using his disease as an excuse.
Originally posted by: Eugechi
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The little runt learned a valuable life lesson that day, and by the attitude he has in that quote, he learned it well. The problem with the world today is that kids are coddled in this naive blanket of "everyone is special" mediocrity.Originally posted by: Dragoon42
Link to Ownage"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Harsh words aside, this was a league founded upon the tenets of "everyone is special" mediocrity, and the game should have been played out that way.
in the end, im with dragoon42... kids today dont know how to deal with failure, stress, and demanding situations as well as previous generations iMO. we expect everything to be taken care of for us, the playing field made level for us, etc.
and i bet the coach would have walked the star hitter regardless of who was next. does he want to risk letting that kid score? hell no. if he's the best, whoever's next is worse, and therefore won't have as great a shot at beating them.
I guarantee you that 50 years ago, they would've not walked the kid. Please don't give me any of this BS about hardships and such, it's freaking PONY LEAGUE .
:disgust:
Are you seriously telling me that you would throw away a whole season just to satisfy ONE kid while you have FIFTEEN kids that are YOUR responsibility that finds out it's no fun to lose, especially when they lost INTENTIONALLY.. ?
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Eugechi
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The little runt learned a valuable life lesson that day, and by the attitude he has in that quote, he learned it well. The problem with the world today is that kids are coddled in this naive blanket of "everyone is special" mediocrity.Originally posted by: Dragoon42
Link to Ownage"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Harsh words aside, this was a league founded upon the tenets of "everyone is special" mediocrity, and the game should have been played out that way.
in the end, im with dragoon42... kids today dont know how to deal with failure, stress, and demanding situations as well as previous generations iMO. we expect everything to be taken care of for us, the playing field made level for us, etc.
and i bet the coach would have walked the star hitter regardless of who was next. does he want to risk letting that kid score? hell no. if he's the best, whoever's next is worse, and therefore won't have as great a shot at beating them.
I guarantee you that 50 years ago, they would've not walked the kid. Please don't give me any of this BS about hardships and such, it's freaking PONY LEAGUE .
:disgust:
Are you seriously telling me that you would throw away a whole season just to satisfy ONE kid while you have FIFTEEN kids that are YOUR responsibility that finds out it's no fun to lose, especially when they lost INTENTIONALLY.. ?
No, I would've pitched to the kid up and let the game take its course. How is that intentionally losing? Like I said, if you "jocks" want strategy, why don't they allow stealing for example in many leagues like this at this age? C'mon it's a fair strategy..
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Eugechi
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The little runt learned a valuable life lesson that day, and by the attitude he has in that quote, he learned it well. The problem with the world today is that kids are coddled in this naive blanket of "everyone is special" mediocrity.Originally posted by: Dragoon42
Link to Ownage"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Harsh words aside, this was a league founded upon the tenets of "everyone is special" mediocrity, and the game should have been played out that way.
in the end, im with dragoon42... kids today dont know how to deal with failure, stress, and demanding situations as well as previous generations iMO. we expect everything to be taken care of for us, the playing field made level for us, etc.
and i bet the coach would have walked the star hitter regardless of who was next. does he want to risk letting that kid score? hell no. if he's the best, whoever's next is worse, and therefore won't have as great a shot at beating them.
I guarantee you that 50 years ago, they would've not walked the kid. Please don't give me any of this BS about hardships and such, it's freaking PONY LEAGUE .
:disgust:
Are you seriously telling me that you would throw away a whole season just to satisfy ONE kid while you have FIFTEEN kids that are YOUR responsibility that finds out it's no fun to lose, especially when they lost INTENTIONALLY.. ?
No, I would've pitched to the kid up and let the game take its course. How is that intentionally losing? Like I said, if you "jocks" want strategy, why don't they allow stealing for example in many leagues like this at this age? C'mon it's a fair strategy..
EDIT: To make it even clearer, let's say the good hitter stroked a single. Then by all means pitch to the sick kid as you would normally since he is in the game, but to specifically go after the sick kid teaches no sportsmanship which should be the primary goal of a PONY LEAGUE .
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.
At that age kids could just steal all the way around the bases if that was allowed and thats not even baseball anymore
Originally posted by: Pikachu
I tuned out 35 years ago...Yep, and he went on to be a stellar example of what sports is all about. :roll:
- Pete Rose ran over catcher Ray Fosse to score the winning run in the 12th inning of the 1970 All-Star game.
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.
At that age kids could just steal all the way around the bases if that was allowed and thats not even baseball anymore
So what? That's what the major leaguers do, shouldn't we emulate them at all costs according to the "athletes" in this thread? I bet there are some kids at that age that have great arms that could throw the runners out. Why are you not picking on the kids with weaker arms?
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Mwilding
The little runt learned a valuable life lesson that day, and by the attitude he has in that quote, he learned it well. The problem with the world today is that kids are coddled in this naive blanket of "everyone is special" mediocrity.Originally posted by: Dragoon42
Link to Ownage"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Harsh words aside, this was a league founded upon the tenets of "everyone is special" mediocrity, and the game should have been played out that way.
in the end, im with dragoon42... kids today dont know how to deal with failure, stress, and demanding situations as well as previous generations iMO. we expect everything to be taken care of for us, the playing field made level for us, etc.
and i bet the coach would have walked the star hitter regardless of who was next. does he want to risk letting that kid score? hell no. if he's the best, whoever's next is worse, and therefore won't have as great a shot at beating them.
I guarantee you that 50 years ago, they would've not walked the kid. Please don't give me any of this BS about hardships and such, it's freaking PONY LEAGUE .
:disgust:
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.
At that age kids could just steal all the way around the bases if that was allowed and thats not even baseball anymore
So what? That's what the major leaguers do, shouldn't we emulate them at all costs according to the "athletes" in this thread? I bet there are some kids at that age that have great arms that could throw the runners out. Why are you not picking on the kids with weaker arms?
You didn't get what I posted. At the major league level, base stealing and the ability to throw one out while attempting to steal is a balanced play, both sides have an equal opportunity at success. Have you ever watched 9-10 year olds throw the baseball around the field? The 4 run rule would happen every inning from base stealing alone
Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
How's the kid gonna learn anything if he doesn't step up to the plate and try. That should just give him reason to work out his arms and become a better player/person. Feeling sorry for himself and living behind his mom's skirt is not the way to be, no matter what battles he's faced with Cancer. He needs to stand up for himself and learn the hard lessons of life...in many ways, he already has.
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: Pikachu
I tuned out 35 years ago...Yep, and he went on to be a stellar example of what sports is all about. :roll:
- Pete Rose ran over catcher Ray Fosse to score the winning run in the 12th inning of the 1970 All-Star game.
Wow, he gambled. Big deal. He's a nice guy and one hell of a player.
He practically crippled a guy who was supposedly his friend, and for what? :roll:Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Wow, he gambled. Big deal. He's a nice guy and one hell of a player.
By the way, the next morning, Romney woke up and decided to do something about what happened to him.
"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.
At that age kids could just steal all the way around the bases if that was allowed and thats not even baseball anymore
So what? That's what the major leaguers do, shouldn't we emulate them at all costs according to the "athletes" in this thread? I bet there are some kids at that age that have great arms that could throw the runners out. Why are you not picking on the kids with weaker arms?
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
i very highly doubt that very many people agree that a little league's coach primary job is to make sure his team wins.Originally posted by: DBL
I'd have walked the batter. It's your job as coach to put your team in the best position to win.
If the kid is so sick, why have him play in the first place? If he is just a bad player, who also happens to have cancer, then those angry are using his disease as an excuse.
I feel strongly that a coach at that level has many other more important responsibilities than just making sure his team wins, especially by any means such as walking a good batter.
First, the coach should make sure the kids enjoy the game, at their age thats the most important thing. It encourages them to continue with sports.
They should also help the kids learn good skills, learn teamwork and maybe even some responsibility (although since they can't drive at that age, it may be the parents fault if they miss practice).
I think that "walk" possibly taught the wrong things at that age. I don't believe that coach should be allowed to caoch at this level anymore.
Fern
:thumbsup:Originally posted by: JRich
I wish more kids had Romney's attitude.
Originally posted by: moshquerade
By the way, the next morning, Romney woke up and decided to do something about what happened to him.
"I'm going to work on my batting," he told his dad. "Then maybe someday I'll be the one they walk."
the kid will be over this long before his parents and the community are.
sometimes adults should learn from kids and just let things go.
Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: PoPPeR
i very highly doubt that very many people agree that a little league's coach primary job is to make sure his team wins.Originally posted by: DBL
I'd have walked the batter. It's your job as coach to put your team in the best position to win.
If the kid is so sick, why have him play in the first place? If he is just a bad player, who also happens to have cancer, then those angry are using his disease as an excuse.
I feel strongly that a coach at that level has many other more important responsibilities than just making sure his team wins, especially by any means such as walking a good batter.
First, the coach should make sure the kids enjoy the game, at their age thats the most important thing. It encourages them to continue with sports.
They should also help the kids learn good skills, learn teamwork and maybe even some responsibility (although since they can't drive at that age, it may be the parents fault if they miss practice).
I think that "walk" possibly taught the wrong things at that age. I don't believe that coach should be allowed to caoch at this level anymore.
Fern
Why do those things exclude winning? In fact, having played little league for many years, I'd have to admit that among other things, winning made the game enjoyable. How can you fault the coach for trying to put his team in the best position to win?
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: rsd
Originally posted by: PinmasterJay
No it isn't, the reason they don't allow stealing is because at that age people can run faster (and its easier) than to have not only the pitcher throw a perfect pitch to home, but the catcher has to make the catch, throw, and an infielder has to make the play as well.
At that age kids could just steal all the way around the bases if that was allowed and thats not even baseball anymore
So what? That's what the major leaguers do, shouldn't we emulate them at all costs according to the "athletes" in this thread? I bet there are some kids at that age that have great arms that could throw the runners out. Why are you not picking on the kids with weaker arms?
Please stop making a fool of yourself.