Makes sense, I figured that's what he was asking. I'm not a onenote user.
Sidenote, when I launch onenote I don't have the ability to back out any higher than the sample notebook. I tried tapping the name at the top like you mentioned.
well at least now sprint is getting some windows phones.... but all these bugs is scaring me away...
There aren't really any bugs, just stuff people want and aren't there. IMO, a lot of it is minor and easily overlook-able.
There aren't really any bugs, just stuff people want and aren't there. IMO, a lot of it is minor and easily overlook-able.
I disagree. The wifi shutting down on lock and killing downloads is a major bug. MS has acknowledged it...but who knows when a fix is coming in. A lot of people are having exchange syncing issues. There are a number of people reporting issues with syncing to the desktop app. And that's not even including the the OEM hardware and software issues and the abortion that is the WP app market.
Maybe prior WP users are used to/have accepted this. But coming from a fairly stable iOS environment it's a shocking change.
As for the store, yes, we get it, it doesn't have all 750k apps of the competition, but it has quite a few useful ones. It's not an "abortion". Anything I've not had an app for, the web typically works perfectly fine (bank, fantasy football, etc). For anything else, I've managed the rest of my life without an app for it and I can manage perfectly fine now.
I think you're being a bit harsh to vi but are mostly correct. There are a lot of things that Windows Phone just does differently than iOS or Android. A lot has been added and more will continue to be. However, a person has to decide whether the UI and general functionality of WP out weighs the minor negatives or not. I think the app store is quite good as it has over 125k apps but it lacks those random, but often useless, store marketing apps. Paul Thurott put it best: http://winsupersite.com/windows-phone/and-biggest-barrier-windows-phone-acceptanceThe wifi shutting off is not a bug, it's an obvious design choice based on battery life that they are looking to change because that's what their customer wants. I've not seen anybody complaining of Exchange syncing problems, so I can't comment on that. As far as the desktop syncing app, I'm not aware of anything it can do that simply using an explorer window can't. People clamor for their phone to show up as a drive and when Microsoft does everyone a solid and gives it, they complain about something else.
Care to expound on the "OEM hardware and software issues"? As for the store, yes, we get it, it doesn't have all 750k apps of the competition, but it has quite a few useful ones. It's not an "abortion". Anything I've not had an app for, the web typically works perfectly fine (bank, fantasy football, etc). For anything else, I've managed the rest of my life without an app for it and I can manage perfectly fine now.
Seriously, just take your phone back and go back to iOS. You're really trying to look for problems now instead of just using the damn thing. I honestly don't care which mobile OS you decide to use, pick whatever is best for you. I just feel like you're making mountains out of molehills.
That just sounds like you've accepted defeat. Sorry but it's just a hell of a lot easier to manage a fantasy lineup through an app than through a website. At least on a mobile device. Same thing for quick checks on match ups. Yahoo! doesn't even offer a first party app. ESPN had it but it was a Nokia exclusive. Then they updated it. Broke it. And now it's not even available. I just find it inconceivable that at this point in mobile development MS hasn't flown a sales guy with a briefcase full of money down to Atlanta GA to ESPN corporate and said "HERE...BUILD IT!. Oh and make it available to everyone!"
When it comes to banking can you take a picture of a check and have it deposited from the full websites? That's a pretty slick feature available through banking apps. Which from what I could tell was an option for WP7 through Chase...but was a Nokia exclusive.
It just boggles my mind that MS allows that. They are fragmenting an already microscopic market by allowing apps based on phone brand.
Accepting defeat, over apps? They're just applications for crying out loud, we're not going to war here.
You do realize that a lot of websites have mobile versions that act pretty much like an app would, right? My fantasy football is on NFL.com and it's laid out pretty easily. Big buttons to touch, all the extraneous data out of the way and what's important is formatted for a mobile screen. The vast majority of apps out there would be perfectly fine staying as a formatted web page. There have been many, many times when I've seen signs for apps on iOS and Android but, when visiting the webpage, gave me the same functionality as the apps.
As for taking pictures of checks, I've never had to do this. I can't even remember the last time I had to deposit a check. If I ever do, I'll do it the old fashioned way and deposit it at the bank the next time I'm in town. My online banking consists of checking my accounts and moving money around if I need to.
The absolute only time I've ever wished I had an app that wasn't on WP7.5 was when Draw Something came out and everybody at work was playing it. But, the fad was over in 3 weeks and it didn't matter.
So no, I'm not accepting defeat, I'm being realistic. The whole app thing that iOS and Android users like to throw around is a small part truth, large part bullshit. If you need apps for every single thing you do on a phone, then please, go to a another OS that provides that for you. I'm just saying that the whole app thing is very well overblown by people who don't sit back and actually think about it.
But with that said, it's only a matter of time until they're all more or less equal anyway; the holes will be filled and the bugs will be fixed.
Apps are are nothing more than a matter of convenience;
Hey Blurred,
I hate to side against ya on this one but that's spoken truly like someone who's just never had the pleasure of using all the ios apps. (Of course I have no idea what devices you own and you very well could have an ios device along side the 920)
I for one am willing to look past a lot of the "missing features" as most of what I've come across has been minor inconveniences which could easily be corrected with a software update. Hell give me one good wp8 update with about a dozen minor tweaks and i'd be rockin!
In the longer haul it's going to tough if the Microsoft store doesn't grow. I think I saw someone said there's already 120K apps which amazes me because everytime I go into the store it shows me the same 10 games, and 20 apps, half of which are nokia apps so I already have them.
Apps aren't everything, but they can be extremely handy! For work I use apps like logmein, remote desktop, and mozy pro to check on things. I also use network utilities like ping to test public addresses. I've checked the ms store and haven't been able to find these. For recreation its great to have games on the phone. I love me some solitaire and Sudoku, and the ones on the ms store suck compared to the games I had on my 4s. Now of course not having all the same games isn't a deal breaker, just a "sigh, darn". And who knows, if the wp8 base can grow, hopefully the developers will bring them over.
Is there a wp8 equivalent to ios apps such as currency converter or units?
Hey on a side note. I have noticed that the glass on the 920 is extremely resistance to skin oils and lotions. Normally on my iPhone after making a few calls I'd really have to clean the screen(its dry here so I put face lotion on every day which gets on the screen). I've only had to wipe the 920 screen twice since Saturday!
Oh and another side note. A Big positive check mark for WP8. The OS feels very smooth, very snappy and minimal lag which is fantastic! More than lack of features I hate a laggy phone. I've set up a few droid phones for clients and gone "ugh why is this so slow"
Isn't the entire purpose of a smart phone that of convenience?
I used WP7.5 enough and I can tell you the app ecosystem isn't there. It isn't even close. In fact I have so few apps on my Windows Phone I don't bother. On Android I have a BUNCH of apps. I would say the selection is there but the quality isn't. iOS apps are still a step above. I think once you use iOS, you will realize your reliance on mobile apps. When you come back to Android, you go "Wait why don't they have an app for that?" OR "Cool same app... wtf why is it so broken and outdated looking?" On Windows Phone you go "WTF there's no app? Oh well I don't need it anyway." It's a defeatist attitude. You learn to live your life without a certain function and then now you tell everyone you don't need an app.
Seriously. Once I sat around for a banquet for 3 hours and I tried to download games on my phone. WTF was I playing? Trash like a basketball game? Kinda ridiculous.
Isn't the entire purpose of a smart phone that of convenience?
Hey Blurred,
I hate to side against ya on this one but that's spoken truly like someone who's just never had the pleasure of using all the ios apps. (Of course I have no idea what devices you own and you very well could have an ios device along side the 920)
Windows 8 and WinRT share the same app store but not every app is available for WinRT (90% are though and most will eventually. There wasn't really any time to test RT apps on a real device until it launched). You write the app once then check the box for both stores.As far as I know the store is the same in that your purchases sync across platforms but some apps are on the phone but not windows 8 or RT.
Thing is, a lot of the iOS apps are there because the OS itself lacks a functionality that can be done with a simple app. The other thing I notice is that you have very limited hardware sets so you get what console gamers have, software written for specific hardware. Android has so many hardware options from many manufacturers that developers need to work harder. Add the fact that there are literally 10apps sometimes that do the same thing and it becomes difficult to find the right one for your needs.