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IndyColtsFan

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I read some comments at another forum and one comment struck me as being accurate: Madden 12 seems a lot like Madden 09. Fortunately, Madden 09 was the first good version on the next gen consoles. The part I don't like is that they changed how you do audibles/hot routes/adjustments (I think that was done in Madden 11) and I don't like things like Game Flow. I turn Game Flow off and I've been told that you can revert back to the old audible system, so we'll see. I honestly didn't notice any major game play differences though I did notice that all the players look like they're wearing eye liner.
 

fatpat268

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I read some comments at another forum and one comment struck me as being accurate: Madden 12 seems a lot like Madden 09. Fortunately, Madden 09 was the first good version on the next gen consoles. The part I don't like is that they changed how you do audibles/hot routes/adjustments (I think that was done in Madden 11) and I don't like things like Game Flow. I turn Game Flow off and I've been told that you can revert back to the old audible system, so we'll see. I honestly didn't notice any major game play differences though I did notice that all the players look like they're wearing eye liner.

IMO, Madden 10 was the first decent version of next-gen Madden.

I dunno though, I kinda liked the demo, as it does feel a little better than some the previous entries, but at the end of the day it's still the same madden game, and that really annoys me. I wish the folks over at EA would rock the boat and get started on a new engine for their football games because what they have right now simply doesn't cut it.

All the improvements they make every year are simply bandages on a shit engine.

That said, I'm part of the problem, and I'll likely buy it since it's the only option for video game NFL football.
 

IndyColtsFan

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That said, I'm part of the problem, and I'll likely buy it since it's the only option for video game NFL football.

I've gone to an every-other-year schedule on all sports games unless the "off year" version has some incredibly new feature that I must have. Frankly, I wish the makers of sports games would do the same thing and in the "off years," release a DLC pack with new stadiums, uniforms, rosters, and maybe some minor tweaks for $20 or $30 while they work on the new version. I think we'd see better sports games that way.

I did not buy Madden 11, which was the first time I didn't have the latest Madden since 2001. I have Madden 12 preordered and I'll likely keep it at this point because I need a new football game.

I will say that Madden love on AT has really taken a plunge the last few years. IIRC, there was usually an organized league every year. I ran the last one (Madden 10) but I don't recall seeing a Madden 11 league here and the AT NCAA 11 league I ran didn't last long either.
 
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dougp

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Just buy Madden and other sports games during Black Friday, you can typically get them 50% off. I won't buy them new anymore, but I don't mind getting them every year at 50%.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Just buy Madden and other sports games during Black Friday, you can typically get them 50% off. I won't buy them new anymore, but I don't mind getting them every year at 50%.

I got in on the $20 Amazon credit for preordering Madden 12. Otherwise, I would've waited or may not have bought it at all.
 

American Gunner

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I played the demo, and my only complaint about the game is that they still use the button press for kicking. I miss the stick controls for kicking.
 

fatpat268

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I've gone to an every-other-year schedule on all sports games unless the "off year" version has some incredibly new feature that I must have. Frankly, I wish the makers of sports games would do the same thing and in the "off years," release a DLC pack with new stadiums, uniforms, rosters, and maybe some minor tweaks for $20 or $30 while they work on the new version. I think we'd see better sports games that way.

Yea, this would be ideal from a consumer standpoint and the quality of the game, but all EA wants to do is squeeze the maximum amount of profits out of their customers.

I didn't buy last year's Madden either. I rented it though, and it was ok, but nothing spectacular.
 

American Gunner

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Yea, this would be ideal from a consumer standpoint and the quality of the game, but all EA wants to do is squeeze the maximum amount of profits out of their customers.

I didn't buy last year's Madden either. I rented it though, and it was ok, but nothing spectacular.
That pretty much goes for all video game companies these days.
 

fatpat268

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That pretty much goes for all video game companies these days.

Yea... and I don't blame them to be honest. They're a business and that their business to make as much money as possible. It's the same thing with Call of Duty. They'd be stupid not to release a game every year because they know people will buy it. The difference there though, is that there's competition. Don't like COD MW3 this year, grab BF3 or any other FPS game.

I know it's a tired argument now, but the situation for football games right now stinks. EA has been phoning it in since 2005 because of a lack of competition. I still remember the times before the exclusive agreement where there were at least 3-4 NFL football games, and like the sucker I was, I (or my parents) bought most of them. There was choice and competition, and it was great.


But as I said, I'm part of the problem since I'll likely buy Madden this year. That isn't to say I hate the game (obviously I don't), but the game could really benefit from a 2-3 year dev cycle so they can actually implement new things. But hey, EA is bringing a new EA Sports studio to Austin... I've got my fingers crossed that it's for football.
 

chalmers

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Yea... and I don't blame them to be honest. They're a business and that their business to make as much money as possible. It's the same thing with Call of Duty. They'd be stupid not to release a game every year because they know people will buy it. The difference there though, is that there's competition. Don't like COD MW3 this year, grab BF3 or any other FPS game.

I know it's a tired argument now, but the situation for football games right now stinks. EA has been phoning it in since 2005 because of a lack of competition. I still remember the times before the exclusive agreement where there were at least 3-4 NFL football games, and like the sucker I was, I (or my parents) bought most of them. There was choice and competition, and it was great.


But as I said, I'm part of the problem since I'll likely buy Madden this year. That isn't to say I hate the game (obviously I don't), but the game could really benefit from a 2-3 year dev cycle so they can actually implement new things. But hey, EA is bringing a new EA Sports studio to Austin... I've got my fingers crossed that it's for football.

Yeah you're not helping things when you complain about and also contribute to a problem.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Yeah you're not helping things when you complain about and also contribute to a problem.

True, but I am guilty as well. When you love pro football, you either go without or buy EA's game. Since 97, I have only missed 3 Maddens: 98, 2001, and 2011. Fortunately I intend to skip years so they won't get quite as much of my money and I hope to God that the NFL opens it up for competition after the contract expires.
 

dfuze

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I tried out the demo on the 360 over the weekend, I liked it.
Probably because I tried it on Rookie level, but holy crap this is the first time I've been able to run the ball in years.
 

gorcorps

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Tried the demo, felt pretty meh to me. Defense still doesn't seem too impressive, it looks like they haven't touched the animations in 3 years, and the running game seems to be TOO easy. I hit sprint and I barrel through the line without much effort. That may be a case of going against the Bears' defense... but still.

I did notice that the defense wasn't making as many miraculous (and absurd) interceptions like they did in Madden 10. If they were close enough to bat at it, they did and I never felt like they did it in some superhuman or planned way. In Madden 10 it seemed like when the game decided it was time for a pick, the defense would get a jolt of superhuman speed at the right time or my QB would all of a sudden throw a wildly inaccurate ball right at a CB. Haven't played it long but that seems to be gone.

I don't know, I skipped 11 but I still don't see much of a reason to get this. Unless there's several people I know that get it I won't bother.
 

Imported

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I enjoyed the demo.. Did feel quite a bit better than '11, but its been a while since I played that.. I hate the kicking though.. seems hard to get anything super accurate as it was like in the past. Also prefer this years Gameflow to last years.
 

dfuze

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Forgot about the change to the kicking mechanics... figures just after I was getting decent at the stick controls they put it back to the button press
 

IndyColtsFan

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Less than 2 weeks before the release! I HOPE they've made decent improvements in franchise. I just wish we could have a good online franchise here on AT.

(P.S. I claim the Colts if that happens. )
 

American Gunner

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Less than 2 weeks before the release! I HOPE they've made decent improvements in franchise. I just wish we could have a good online franchise here on AT.

(P.S. I claim the Colts if that happens. )
A few of the previews I have read has talked about how they have made improvements to the franchise, and like you I am hoping it is true.
 

JD50

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$60 for a glorified roster update and they can't even be bothered with a physical manual? SLAP IN THE FACE!
 

purbeast0

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$60 for a glorified roster update and they can't even be bothered with a physical manual? SLAP IN THE FACE!

haha out of all things to complain about, you complain about the manual.

I APPROVE
 

IndyColtsFan

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Just got my copy, waiting for me on my doorstep courtesy of Amazon and my $20 credit from them already applied to my account. :awe:
 

fustercluck

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EA buying the NFL rights was a big loss for all gaming football fans. It means they can just shit out the same game every year basically and rake in tons of buck. Now they've had no competition for 8 years or so. It sucks. Buuuut, I'll be playing it again this year , after borrowing it from a buddy.

I remember last year after you played the first season, there was always a guy dressed like Santa Claus in the crowd, no matter what time of year it was, hah. Speaking of which the crowd/sideline animations have always been pretty awful.
 

Cuda1447

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Indy, lemme know what you think when you play. I rented mine from gamefly, from the reviews I've read there are some serious issues with gameplay, but some decent improvements too.
 
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