MAGA Bomber Caught

[Jaskalas]

REVEALED: 'Lost' white supremacist MAGAbomber thought USA 'was going down the toilet'

• He is an avid Trump fan with an interest in bodybuilding who says he is a member of the Seminole tribe
• His lawyer said tonight he is 'lost and sick individual’ who isolated himself from his family but eventually 'found a father' in President Trump
• Ronald Lowy, who represented Sayoc in previous cases, said he demonstrated 'clear signs of mental illness'
• His former employer at a pizza restaurant said he identified as a 'white supremacist' and an Anti-Semitic who wanted to purify society and believed all gay people 'should be put on island and burned'
• In the 1990s, Sayoc traveled the country and worked as a male stripper after failing to become a pro wrestler
• Sergio Menezes, who struck up a conversation with Sayoc back in August, told how he was unhappy at being priced out of Miami because of 'immigrants' moving in and blamed the Democrats for society's problems
• Sayoc blamed Barack Obama and the Democrats on American Culture 'going down the toilet'

A person scrapping by on the bottom, becomes a victim of their own prison. Unable to see a way out. Effectively powerless to help themselves. That hopelessness is the disease of America. Like the flu, its potency is measured by the victims who fall ill. It can also be measured by the body count, which thankfully is still low... ish, depending on how one wants to measure it. (gun violence, etc).

Trump did one thing right. He knew how to connect to people. Sure, he's the wrong person with the wrong message. But it is an arena we must compete in. The poor and desperate masses who we must triage to stem this epidemic of trickle down suffering, before more people fall off the deep end and let their depravity turn into violence. People who are lost can still be found, and saved. Trump said he'd protect them. He lied. He offered scapegoats and false promises. We can do better.

In a better world, they would look to us for salvation with real solutions, not the charlatan who only offered them lies and hate.

Trump's is the easy path. Ours the more difficult one. Yet the good work must still be done. For only ruin and madness await a nation who continues down Trump's path. Anyone who cares about the future must see it, that we must carry on the work of reaching out to save those in need. No matter their disease. Our duty is to the people. Trump said he'd be there for them, but we are the ones who must actually do it.

 

[Greenman]

REVEALED: 'Lost' white supremacist MAGAbomber thought USA 'was going down the toilet'

• He is an avid Trump fan with an interest in bodybuilding who says he is a member of the Seminole tribe
• His lawyer said tonight he is 'lost and sick individual’ who isolated himself from his family but eventually 'found a father' in President Trump
• Ronald Lowy, who represented Sayoc in previous cases, said he demonstrated 'clear signs of mental illness'
• His former employer at a pizza restaurant said he identified as a 'white supremacist' and an Anti-Semitic who wanted to purify society and believed all gay people 'should be put on island and burned'
• In the 1990s, Sayoc traveled the country and worked as a male stripper after failing to become a pro wrestler
• Sergio Menezes, who struck up a conversation with Sayoc back in August, told how he was unhappy at being priced out of Miami because of 'immigrants' moving in and blamed the Democrats for society's problems
• Sayoc blamed Barack Obama and the Democrats on American Culture 'going down the toilet'

A person scrapping by on the bottom, becomes a victim of their own prison. Unable to see a way out. Effectively powerless to help themselves. That hopelessness is the disease of America. Like the flu, its potency is measured by the victims who fall ill. It can also be measured by the body count, which thankfully is still low... ish, depending on how one wants to measure it. (gun violence, etc).

Trump did one thing right. He knew how to connect to people. Sure, he's the wrong person with the wrong message. But it is an arena we must compete in. The poor and desperate masses who we must triage to stem this epidemic of trickle down suffering, before more people fall off the deep end and let their depravity turn into violence. People who are lost can still be found, and saved. Trump said he'd protect them. He lied. He offered scapegoats and false promises. We can do better.

In a better world, they would look to us for salvation with real solutions, not the charlatan who only offered them lies and hate.

Trump's is the easy path. Ours the more difficult one. Yet the good work must still be done. For only ruin and madness await a nation who continues down Trump's path. Anyone who cares about the future must see it, that we must carry on the work of reaching out to save those in need. No matter their disease. Our duty is to the people. Trump said he'd be there for them, but we are the ones who must actually do it.

I started humming "Glory hallelujah" as I read this.

 

[VRAMdemon]

REVEALED: 'Lost' white supremacist MAGAbomber thought USA 'was going down the toilet'

• He is an avid Trump fan with an interest in bodybuilding who says he is a member of the Seminole tribe
• His lawyer said tonight he is 'lost and sick individual’ who isolated himself from his family but eventually 'found a father' in President Trump
• Ronald Lowy, who represented Sayoc in previous cases, said he demonstrated 'clear signs of mental illness'
• His former employer at a pizza restaurant said he identified as a 'white supremacist' and an Anti-Semitic who wanted to purify society and believed all gay people 'should be put on island and burned'
• In the 1990s, Sayoc traveled the country and worked as a male stripper after failing to become a pro wrestler
• Sergio Menezes, who struck up a conversation with Sayoc back in August, told how he was unhappy at being priced out of Miami because of 'immigrants' moving in and blamed the Democrats for society's problems
• Sayoc blamed Barack Obama and the Democrats on American Culture 'going down the toilet'

A person scrapping by on the bottom, becomes a victim of their own prison. Unable to see a way out. Effectively powerless to help themselves. That hopelessness is the disease of America. Like the flu, its potency is measured by the victims who fall ill. It can also be measured by the body count, which thankfully is still low... ish, depending on how one wants to measure it. (gun violence, etc).

Trump did one thing right. He knew how to connect to people. Sure, he's the wrong person with the wrong message. But it is an arena we must compete in. The poor and desperate masses who we must triage to stem this epidemic of trickle down suffering, before more people fall off the deep end and let their depravity turn into violence. People who are lost can still be found, and saved. Trump said he'd protect them. He lied. He offered scapegoats and false promises. We can do better.

In a better world, they would look to us for salvation with real solutions, not the charlatan who only offered them lies and hate.

Trump's is the easy path. Ours the more difficult one. Yet the good work must still be done. For only ruin and madness await a nation who continues down Trump's path. Anyone who cares about the future must see it, that we must carry on the work of reaching out to save those in need. No matter their disease. Our duty is to the people. Trump said he'd be there for them, but we are the ones who must actually do it.

I dunno man...This guy was obviously was a loner, had mental problems and a soul filled with hate. BUT...He was driving around to all Trumps of Trumps rallies. He was making money somehow..Sounds like he's blaming everyone else for his problems. Playing the victim. So...I certainly DON'T feel ANY sympathy for him.

This guy was ripe for a cult type following. He reminds me of a typical cult member who would do anything for his demagogue. This what happens when you have some autocratic demagogue whipping his followers into a frenzy with lies and hatered.

 

[compcons]

I haven't said it in this thread, so I'll say it. There is absolutely no reason that violence has entered our political debate. There's no excuse for it from the left or from the right. We should be able to disagree on political issues, to disagree even on fundamental principles without fearing a beating and gunshots or a bomb. I wish that President Trump would cool his rhetoric and i wish all good people could agree that violence has no place in our nations politics.

Holy crap! When I read that I immediately was reminded of how Trump sounds when he reads his prepared speech. Let's see if like Trump, you immediately revert back to your normal political tribalism mode or if you truly can accept some very logical thoughts pertaining to the divisive nature of Trumps rhetoric and how it affects (crazy) people. And that a President's job is to unify and not divide.

 

[compcons]

No it wasn't, it was a clear case of incitement to violence.

'We're gonna punish our enemies, and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us' B. O.


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Here is what Boehner said about Mr. Obama's use of the word "enemies" in prepared remarks for a speech Monday night.

"Ladies and gentlemen, we have a president in the White House who referred to Americans who disagree with him as 'our enemies.' Think about that. He actually used that word. When Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W. Bush used the word 'enemy,' they reserved it for global terrorists and foreign dictators -- enemies of the United States. Enemies of freedom. Enemies of our country. Today, sadly, we have president who uses the word 'enemy' for fellow Americans -- fellow citizens. He uses it for people who disagree with his agenda of bigger government -- people speaking out for a smaller, more accountable government that respects freedom and allows small businesses to create jobs. Mr. President, there's a word for people who have the audacity to speak up in defense of freedom, the Constitution, and the values of limited government that made our country great. We don't call them 'enemies.' We call them 'patriots.'"

And yet it appears that Boehner is not holding his president to the same standards. I can't recall that Boehner said the same of Trump. Ever? So odd. That Boehner quote could be applied repeatedly to Trump but I don't recall a time where it ever was. We could also go way back to when that fucktard could have said something when people were painting targets on politicians faces. Remember when Giffords was was shot shortly after the Republican VP candidate was calling for violence in a not-so subtle way and we all talked about heated rhetoric?

Your memory is so selective.

 

[kage69]

And yet it appears that Boehner is not holding his president to the same standards. I can't recall that Boehner said the same of Trump. Ever? So odd. That Boehner quote could be applied repeatedly to Trump but I don't recall a time where it ever was. We could also go way back to when that fucktard could have said something when people were painting targets on politicians faces. Remember when Giffords was was shot shortly after the Republican VP candidate was calling for violence in a not-so subtle way and we all talked about heated rhetoric?

Your memory is so selective.

Ahh yes, Palin's election map with all the crosshair images over everyone, right? The party who brings up "2nd Amendment solutions" is very fond of the Who Me?

 

[Victorian Gray]

You gotten your "I would rather be a Russian" t-shirts yet?

He bought a case of them. His Learn Conversational Russian dvds were in the same order.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

And yet it appears that Boehner is not holding his president to the same standards. I can't recall that Boehner said the same of Trump. Ever? So odd. That Boehner quote could be applied repeatedly to Trump but I don't recall a time where it ever was. We could also go way back to when that fucktard could have said something when people were painting targets on politicians faces. Remember when Giffords was was shot shortly after the Republican VP candidate was calling for violence in a not-so subtle way and we all talked about heated rhetoric?

Your memory is so selective.

He’s absolutely not a Trumper. This is from last year

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/john-boehner-on-republican-party/amp

 

[compcons]

He’s absolutely not a Trumper. This is from last year

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/john-boehner-on-republican-party/amp

I just don't recall him ever calling out any Republican regardless of how divisive the rhetoric was while he was in office.

 

[zinfamous]

Apparently he’s Italian-Phillipino.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...ieri-nightclub-stripper-theft-battery-1190086

The cousin claimed that Sayoc had big dreams of becoming a pro wrestler, but that after doing too many steroids, his life went south.

“The kid was huge,” the cousin said. “He wanted to make it as a pro wrestler, but the steroids f***ed his head up.”

The cousin said Sayoc adopted the Italian surname “Altieri,” because while he was half-Filipino and half-Italian, he leaned toward his late grandfather's roots on his mother’s side.

Three years ago, the cousin said, Sayoc fell out of favor with the family.

“He was acting erratic all the time,” the cousin said. “We told him nicely, ‘Please don’t come around.’"

The issues centered on Sayoc making unannounced visits to his relatives’ home late at night.

Sayoc had plenty of run-ins with law enforcement, including numerous dings for alleged theft in the 1990s. In 2002, he allegedly threatened to use a bomb. Two years later, he got in trouble for alleged possession of synthetic anabolic androgenic steroids.

Dude definitely sounds like a brother from another mother of our own resident Roid Boy. They even wear the same costume!

 

[zinfamous]

I just don't recall him ever calling out any Republican regardless of how divisive the rhetoric was while he was in office.

Indeed. It's also why he quit. Why a lot of them are quitting, which to me is weak and only opens up the door for the wave of sociopaths that have decimated the party during this time. I think you get into that party mind--indeed, an actual "both sides" as in, human, quality--and think that you can toe both sides of the problem and get out of it for the better. Dude was endlessly stressed and realized early on as speaker, that he pretty much lost all power to do anything for the country or his party because the message that they would only give him was "Obama does nothing. We do not let him do anything."

For all of Obama's accounts, they seemed to like each other and get along pretty well during their meetings and it seems that both were on the same side of hating what Congress had become--essentially Newt Gingrich's total dismantling of government.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Indeed. It's also why he quit. Why a lot of them are quitting, which to me is weak and only opens up the door for the wave of sociopaths that have decimated the party during this time. I think you get into that party mind--indeed, an actual "both sides" as in, human, quality--and think that you can toe both sides of the problem and get out of it for the better. Dude was endlessly stressed and realized early on as speaker, that he pretty much lost all power to do anything for the country or his party because the message that they would only give him was "Obama does nothing. We do not let him do anything."

For all of Obama's accounts, they seemed to like each other and get along pretty well during their meetings and it seems that both were on the same side of hating what Congress had become--essentially Newt Gingrich's total dismantling of government.

Well said and I think it’s an unreasonable standard to expect an in office politician to speak against their party. Providedits not something beyond question wrong like opening a death camp.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think this is one of the more interesting takes on the whole thing-

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...bs-zooms-from-right-wing-fringe-to-mainstream

Had Sayoc not been identified & apprehended all too many people would have believed in the false flag bullshit. Now that he has been, the perps of right wing disinformation & conspiracy theory spin it as media conspiracy against poor Trump.

 

[greatnoob]

I think this is one of the more interesting takes on the whole thing-

https://nationalpost.com/news/world...bs-zooms-from-right-wing-fringe-to-mainstream

Had Sayoc not been identified & apprehended all too many people would have believed in the false flag bullshit. Now that he has been, the perps of right wing disinformation & conspiracy theory spin it as media conspiracy against poor Trump.

Wow... they're always the victims. These fuckers are some of the most delusional and dishonest pieces of shit I've ever seen. They are so far gone I don't even know if they are grounded in reality and just being dishonest or if they're living in their own made up world where they actually believe their own lies.

 

[greatnoob]

I don't understand why news stations give these conspiritards air time. The more your report on these whackjobs, the more credence you're giving their nutter crazy conspiracy theories. They were once dumbasses on the internet making YouTube videos connecting shapes to some looney "Illuminati" conspiracy... but look at where we are now - regressing back to witch hunts and resorting to illogical, mental gymnastics for explanations. These pissant retards should be mocked and laughed at, not given air time to spread their retarded conspiracy theories.

 

[cytg111]

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...emists-inspired-by-us-president-1354409027794

I bet non of you have the attention span to watch much less understand that. But I dare you to watch it to the end.

 

[Jhhnn]

Wow... they're always the victims. These fuckers are some of the most delusional and dishonest pieces of shit I've ever seen. They are so far gone I don't even know if they are grounded in reality and just being dishonest or if they're living in their own made up world where they actually believe their own lies.

The mouthpieces of the GOP don't believe any of it, but they know who will. The exploitation is quite cruel.

 

[Paratus]

I have said it before that I voted for Trump for the SCOTUS appointments and I find Hillary disgusting.

See there you go. You hate anyone that disagrees with you.

 

[pcgeek11]

Or maybe he was sending a coded message when he announced on national TV that he was a Nazi.

He didn't say that he is a Nazi. He said he was a Nationalist, something completely different.

 

[pcgeek11]

And your point is?

 

[brycejones]

And your point is?

Read your words, think a bit harder and you might be able to figure it out.

 

[Ausm]

Ummmmm, at no time did the article say he was a MAGA guy or had the cap.

I take it you don't watch non rightwing News?

 

[theeedude]

Well said and I think it’s an unreasonable standard to expect an in office politician to speak against their party. Providedits not something beyond question wrong like opening a death camp.

The threat of disapproval of their party is enough to silence them, but threat of being sent to a death camp won't? If they are quiet now, they will never speak up.

 

[momeNt]

According to the Seminoles, no, he's not

"Earlier today a spokesperson for the Tribe said there was no record of Sayoc being a member. “He’s not a member of the Seminole Tribe, has never been a member of the Seminole Tribe,” they told Politico."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/26/annotated-trump-memes-cesar-sayoc-van-pipe-bombs

I'll reserve judgment on that until I see a DNA test.

 

[Jhhnn]

Meanwhile, Trump attacks one of the intended victims-

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-attacks-mail-bomb-target-182044145.html