Marcus Vick should be expelled

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purbeast0

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Originally posted by: toekramp
and the angle in this vid doesn't even show how freakin' blatant it was

is there another angle out there? this was the first time I saw this. I'd like to see another angle, becausee from that angle it looks like it COULD be accidental (althogh I don't think it is).
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: toekramp
and the angle in this vid doesn't even show how freakin' blatant it was

is there another angle out there? this was the first time I saw this. I'd like to see another angle, becausee from that angle it looks like it COULD be accidental (althogh I don't think it is).

i haven't seen it online, i was watching the game. but he had to walk over to him to do this...like it wasn't even in the direction he was going

edit: and it killed the game for me, even with the win
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Wow. Simply wow. The embodiment of all that is wrong with professional sports, all wrapped up in a nice, neat little 5 second clip.

I hope a piano falls on his head.

Except this is college sports, not pro.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: toekramp
and the angle in this vid doesn't even show how freakin' blatant it was

is there another angle out there? this was the first time I saw this. I'd like to see another angle, becausee from that angle it looks like it COULD be accidental (althogh I don't think it is).

i haven't seen it online, i was watching the game. but he had to walk over to him to do this...like it wasn't even in the direction he was going

wow I would love to see that, from the angle on the one here, it just looks like he kinda of lost balance and put his foot down to help him balance, but you can also see him looking down when he does it which makes it look intentional.
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: toekramp
Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: toekramp
and the angle in this vid doesn't even show how freakin' blatant it was

is there another angle out there? this was the first time I saw this. I'd like to see another angle, becausee from that angle it looks like it COULD be accidental (althogh I don't think it is).

i haven't seen it online, i was watching the game. but he had to walk over to him to do this...like it wasn't even in the direction he was going

wow I would love to see that, from the angle on the one here, it just looks like he kinda of lost balance and put his foot down to help him balance, but you can also see him looking down when he does it which makes it look intentional.

the most ironic part was it happened during an interview with Michael up in the stands. they were discussing the 'maturation' of marcus...HA, we need a new QB stat

i hate having people think of VT as thugish, not that I blame them right now
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Wow. Simply wow. The embodiment of all that is wrong with professional sports, all wrapped up in a nice, neat little 5 second clip.

I hope a piano falls on his head.

Except this is college sports, not pro.

I wondered who was going to nitpick that first... you get the
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Wow. Simply wow. The embodiment of all that is wrong with professional sports, all wrapped up in a nice, neat little 5 second clip.
I hope a piano falls on his head.
Except this is college sports, not pro.
I wondered who was going to nitpick that first... you get the
Not really a nitpick... it kinda questions your entire statement. This shows nothing about pro sports.

EDIT: The piano statement still rings true, though.
 

NeoV

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from the looks of it his foot was going down, but he clearly added some extra push on it, it was a class-less move

This doesn't blow his chance at the NFL though, and yes, he'll still get drafted regardless of a suspension that may or may not follow this, but I would think he isn't turning pro just yet....as for the VT guy asking for their backup QB to play - please, stop kidding yourself, Marcus Vick is very talented and isn't going to the bench for anything other than his behavoir, if that happens at all.

You Ron Mexico haters really have no clue - check the Falcons' record in the past 4 years in games he plays vs games he doesn't play in, then watch that playoff game at G.Bay a few years ago and tell me he isn't a leader. The fact of the matter is that the Falcon's have very little receiving talent, and their D took a turn for the worst when their MLB went down in the middle of the season...If TO ends up in Atlanta, you may just see the Falcons back in the NFC championship game next year.

As for the 'sissification of America' comment - give us a break. The only stuff that happens on a football field that isn't caught on camera is on the bottom of pile-ups, and even then most of what you hear is back-woods, small-town football urban legends..I played football for 4 years in HS and 2 years of college and none of that stuff ever happened to me and I never heard any of my teammates say it did either. Bowl games have so many cameras that you really can't hide anymore.

I say give him a 3 or 4 game suspension at the start of next season.
 

thelanx

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The facts that he kind of had to step to the side and the fact that he appeared to look down as he stepped on the knee makes this seem intentional. I mean, he's a skilled athlete; I find it hard to believe that he would not only lack the coordination to merely stand up without losing his balance, but also lack the situational awareness and peripheral vision to realize that the guy who just tackled him is right there next to him.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: jbourne77
Wow. Simply wow. The embodiment of all that is wrong with professional sports, all wrapped up in a nice, neat little 5 second clip.
I hope a piano falls on his head.
Except this is college sports, not pro.
I wondered who was going to nitpick that first... you get the
Not really a nitpick... it kinda questions your entire statement. This shows nothing about pro sports.

EDIT: The piano statement still rings true, though.

I guess what I meant to say was that "pro" antics were making there way into college FB more than ever. You see, I can't stand pro sports, whether it's football, baseball, hockey, etc. College football is sacred to me. I love the game of football, and it's (relatively) clean and free of the bullsh*t. I know it's not perfect, but it's so much easier to stomach than the NFL. Crap like Vick sullies what's left of my favorite game .
 

Kelvrick

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There something I'm doing wrong? I click on the link but don't see anything.

Tried a search on the site, but don't see it either.
 

aswedc

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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
There something I'm doing wrong? I click on the link but don't see anything.

Tried a search on the site, but don't see it either.
It's a Windows Media File on that page...
 

ShockwaveVT

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This is a classic case of the retaliator getting caught (cept not by the refs). It wasn't a case of Marcus Vick simply being a total jerk - some are calling this unprovoked but he was clearly responding (inappropriately) to cheap hits dealt out by the DE #58 & the rest of the UL defense. The breaking point was the cheap blow delivered by #58 as he made the tackle. If you watch the video clip closely you'll see #58 drop an elbow on Vick's neck as he hits him from behind.

Defenses are always trying pound the hell out of QB's - heck thats what VT's defense thrives on... beating up the other team's QB with as many legit & borderline hits as possible until he's shell shocked and panics.

Now, Marcus Vick is a hothead (this should be obvious to anyone following VT sports for the past 2-3 years) and in response to that hit and probably others earlier in the game he decides to "accidentally" step on #58's leg to send him a message = "Don't F' with me". Vick is the type to talk trash all game and lets his temper get the better of him when he feels shown up or dissed by an opponent (or opposing fans - WVU). So of course he wasn't going to let #58 get away with elbowing him in the back of the head, especially after being pounded a few times already that game while dropping back to pass.

He definately needs to learn how to keep that temper in check and I think this action deserves a 1-2 game suspension, along with plenty of stadium climbs and wind sprints - but only because of his history. He doesn't have the room for error that a player with a clean history would have in this situation. Maybe one day he'll learn how to channel that desire for retribution into TD passes rather than cheap shots.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: aswedc
Originally posted by: Kelvrick
There something I'm doing wrong? I click on the link but don't see anything.

Tried a search on the site, but don't see it either.
It's a Windows Media File on that page...

Yea, probably firewalled as I'm at work. Oh well, gotta wait till I get home.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: ShockwaveVT
This is a classic case of the retaliator getting caught (cept not by the refs). It wasn't a case of Marcus Vick simply being a total jerk - some are calling this unprovoked but he was clearly responding (inappropriately) to cheap hits dealt out by the DE #58 & the rest of the UL defense. The breaking point was the cheap blow delivered by #58 as he made the tackle. If you watch the video clip closely you'll see #58 drop an elbow on Vick's neck as he hits him from behind.

Drop an elbow? Are you fvcking retarded? He's trying to brace himself from the fall.
 

ThePresence

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Now, Marcus Vick is a hothead (this should be obvious to anyone following VT sports for the past 2-3 years) and in response to that hit and probably others earlier in the game he decides to "accidentally" step on #58's leg to send him a message = "Don't F' with me". Vick is the type to talk trash all game and lets his temper get the better of him when he feels shown up or dissed by an opponent (or opposing fans - WVU). So of course he wasn't going to let #58 get away with elbowing him in the back of the head, especially after being pounded a few times already that game while dropping back to pass.

Retaliation or not, that kinda kneestomp can end someones career and maybe even cripple them.
 

ShockwaveVT

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Retaliation or not, that kinda kneestomp can end someones career and maybe even cripple them.

That is true and that is one reason why I feel he should definately be suspended to start the 2006 season.
 

ShockwaveVT

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Originally posted by: BigJ

Drop an elbow? Are you fvcking retarded? He's trying to brace himself from the fall.

I don't agree with your assessment. Its pretty clear to me that he's aiming for Vick's head with his forearm/elbow as they collide.

My favorite football players tend to be defensive ends, and I am well aware of their tactics of intimidation when it comes to the other team's QB. DE's are there to punish the other team's QB at every opportunity. In this case Vick did not respond appropriately to taking a punishing blow from that DE.... and as a result he should be suspended. Just dont go around thinking that #58 is not guilty of his own cheap shots.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: ShockwaveVT
Originally posted by: BigJ

Drop an elbow? Are you fvcking retarded? He's trying to brace himself from the fall.

I don't agree with your assessment. Its pretty clear to me that he's aiming for Vick's head with his forearm/elbow as they collide.

My favorite football players tend to be defensive ends, and I am well aware of their tactics of intimidation when it comes to the other team's QB. DE's are there to punish the other team's QB at every opportunity. In this case Vick did not respond appropriately to taking a punishing blow from that DE.... and as a result he should be suspended. Just dont go around thinking that #58 is not guilty of his own cheap shots.

How can you possibly say he was aiming for Vick's head? This isn't the movies where he can magically narrowly avoid Vick's head to save the day. If you're saying #58 is throwing an elbow, then hundreds of tackles every week in the NFL are tackles made with an intent to injure.

If you've ever done ANYTHING physical, especially in such a fast-paced game as football, you realize you cannot control every part of your body at all times.

EDIT: I see what you're talking about. #58 is trying to STRIP THE BALL. He's not throwing an elbow into Vick's head/neck. That's what any decent defensive player will try to do as they're making a tackle.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: ShockwaveVT
This is a classic case of the retaliator getting caught (cept not by the refs). It wasn't a case of Marcus Vick simply being a total jerk - some are calling this unprovoked but he was clearly responding (inappropriately) to cheap hits dealt out by the DE #58 & the rest of the UL defense. The breaking point was the cheap blow delivered by #58 as he made the tackle. If you watch the video clip closely you'll see #58 drop an elbow on Vick's neck as he hits him from behind.

Are you stupid? That was a clean hit.
 

ShockwaveVT

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Originally posted by: BigJ
How can you possibly say he was aiming for Vick's head? This isn't the movies where he can magically narrowly avoid Vick's head to save the day. If you're saying #58 is throwing an elbow, then hundreds of tackles every week in the NFL are tackles made with an intent to injure.

If you've ever done ANYTHING physical, especially in such a fast-paced game as football, you realize you cannot control every part of your body at all times.

I say it because in my opinion he was aiming for Vick's head. He wasn't trying to wrap him up and tackle him... #58 was trying hit him just like any good DE would do. Its definately a legit hit, but its still a bit of a cheap shot & it pissed Vick off enough for him to respond with his own "accidental" cheap step.

DE's are always taking cheap shots - its their job to get in the QB's head and make them fear for their lives. You can't do that by making 100% clean tackles and avoiding unneccesary blows. Its a head game that Vick lost - he very well could have been ejected from the game for that bonehead step and certainly would have lost 15 yards if a ref had seen it happen.

Instead of responding with garbage like that, Vick should have walked away and put his next pass right on target for a TD.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not saying #58's tactics exonerate Vick in anyway, I was just giving some detail as to what I think triggered Vick's stupid little stunt.
 

batchusa

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Reminds me of Christian Laettner's hit during a final four game when he was at Duke (don't remember which).
 

ShockwaveVT

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Originally posted by: Feldenak

Are you stupid? That was a clean hit.

No I'm not stupid. I'm definately smart enough to know that you wont place much stock in my self-evaluation.

Was it a clean hit under the rules of football? Absolutely.

Did it seem like a clean hit to Vick? I doubt it - thats why he went and did something really stupid - that step on the DE's leg. A good QB would shake it off and use that as ammo for the next down. Vick being the hothead idiot that he is, reacted inappropriately.

See my post above. DE's are always trying to mess with the heads of QB's. Clean tackles and uneccessary hits don't really get into the head of a QB.

Anyways I've said my piece on the tackle. If you disagree with my assessment thats fine, I'm not likely to change your opinion if I haven't already. Just try to be respectful in your replies. Thanks.

 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: ShockwaveVT
Originally posted by: Feldenak

Are you stupid? That was a clean hit.

No I'm not stupid. I'm definately smart enough to know that you wont place much stock in my self-evaluation.

Was it a clean hit under the rules of football? Absolutely.

Did it seem like a clean hit to Vick? I doubt it - thats why he went and did something really stupid - that step on the DE's leg. A good QB would shake it off and use that as ammo for the next down. Vick being the hothead idiot that he is, reacted inappropriately.

See my post above. DE's are always trying to mess with the heads of QB's. Clean tackles and uneccessary hits don't really get into the head of a QB.

Anyways I've said my piece on the tackle. If you disagree with my assessment thats fine, I'm not likely to change your opinion if I haven't already. Just try to be respectful in your replies. Thanks.

are you justifying vicks response?
 
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