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VashHT

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Feb 1, 2007
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Ding ding ding!

I seem to remember under Bush there was an agreement on immigration reform in 2005 but the Republicans themselves tanked the bill!
Yeah I still find it ridiculous that people whose family most likely got in just by getting on a boat and waiting a few hours to get papers are telling people nowadays that they should have to spend 7+ years and thousands of dollars on lawyers to get in "the right way". If it was as easy to get documents nowadays we'd have a lot less undocumented immigrants, and that's something republicans always fight against.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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You mean when they tried to kill the border wall completion and sell the unused materials for scrap, or when America was overrun by 10s of millions of new immigrants thanks to backwards leftist policies? If you call that beefing up...
Walls don't work. Even the biggest wall built by man was breeched.
 

alien42

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Nov 28, 2004
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If Trump really wanted to deport undocumented immigrants easily and cheaply without causing all this trouble he would send ICE into rural America to meat processing plants, restaurants, farms, hardware stores, pretty much anywhere people are hatd working and they wouldn't encounter many protesters/resistance.

Reality is they are doing this for purely political reasons and trying to give themselves an excuse to weaponize law enforcement and the military against Americans who don't support them politically.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Nothing wrong with legal immigrants. They do work hard and usually strive to earn citizenship.

But you can't crash the border and just whatever willy nilly.

Help me out, why are people who are "crashing the border and just whatever willy nilly" also going to routine immigration hearings? Follow up question, why are ice goons hanging out at immigration courts to detain people? Are they under the impression that ms13 members like hanging out in courtrooms? If so, are they dumb?
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Ding ding ding!

I seem to remember under Bush there was an agreement on immigration reform in 2005 but the Republicans themselves tanked the bill!
Then there was another agreement on immigration reform in 2010 and... Republicans themselves tanked the bill.

Then there was another agreement on immigration reform in 2024 and... Republicans themselves tanked the bill.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Nothing wrong with legal immigrants. They do work hard and usually strive to earn citizenship.

But you can't crash the border and just whatever willy nilly.
Question for you

A non citizen cross the border at a non-legal port of entry. Reaches the US and makes an asylum claim is that a legal means of entering.

Don't reframe the question answer this one.
 

JTsyo

Lifer
Nov 18, 2007
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If Trump really wanted to deport undocumented immigrants easily and cheaply without causing all this trouble he would send ICE into rural America to meat processing plants, restaurants, farms, hardware stores, pretty much anywhere people are hatd working and they wouldn't encounter many protesters/resistance.

Reality is they are doing this for purely political reasons and trying to give themselves an excuse to weaponize law enforcement and the military against Americans who don't support them politically.
Watching Andor S2 really sets you in this frame of mind for what's happening in LA.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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When will Trump's military kill protestors 1-10 - and then protesters 10-100?

1-10 in the next week? then 10-100 end of June into early July?

Something different?
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Stop lying, you don't support legal immigration and that's why republicans torpedo any bill that would actually fix our shitty broken immigration process.
I support waiting until you get approved not just pretending immigration laws dont exist and merrily strolling across while Democrats look the other way.

Who could oppose a border wall and sane policy I proposed?
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Question for you

A non citizen cross the border at a non-legal port of entry. Reaches the US and makes an asylum claim is that a legal means of entering.

Don't reframe the question answer this one.
Unfortunately asylum laws have long an abused loophole to stay indefinitely. You must remain in Mexico.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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We will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it, at least according to Trump. I assume he means with tariffs. And if walls dont work, why do we have walled communities?
Walls don't work for countries. Ever heard of The Great Wall of China? It was breeched.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Unfortunately asylum laws have long an abused loophole to stay indefinitely. You must remain in Mexico.
It's not a loophole. We signed a treaty after WW2 that calls for this. The problem Republicans refuse to increase resources for immigration courts so cases can be adjudicated faster.
 
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