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K1052

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For the "This will help Trump" people. The heavy handed and random nature of the ICE raids against people who haven't done anything seems also likely not to help public opinion about what's going on. Approval overall on immigration likely an artifact of what people chose to believe about this, unlikely to be long term durable.

 
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Muse

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Hopefully not. This shit is normie repellent. Kiss 2026 and 2028 goodbye.

Dummy, the Democrats heading up the situation (L.A. mayor Bass and Governor Newsom) are calling for peaceful protests, not violence and vandalism. You are a closet Republican is all I can see here.
Yes, I realize that's what Gavin Newsom is saying, but it's not going to work.
Doesn't work for you but you're coocoo.
 
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Muse

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The first time we had riot control training while I was in the Guard, one of the first questions that was asked was can we withdraw from the line and/or stack if we see our own relatives on the other side of the barricade? What do we do if children are involved? How violent are we allowed to be if we're attacked? etc. And then we all mustered out in full riot gear to rehearse some maneuvers with the refs telling us to act like it was the real thing or we'd fail the exercise and have to do it over and over again, with us giggling at each other like girly teenage mall rats in a dressing room because we all looked so "bad ass dangerous and intimidating". Some guys from the unit were acting as agitators, throwing shit (not literally) swearing, taunting, trying to get someone to break the line and charge them. It seemed so surreal that we'd be tasked to do that kind of thing, to tear gas, pepper spray and shoot our friends, neighbors and fellow citizens with bean bags and rubber bullets. OK, well there were a few psychos amongst our midst that would actually enjoy having a few days and nights like that, but still, what with being brought up from childhood that the Aloha Spirit is what binds us all together as Islanders from Hawaii, it just felt like it wasn't the pono (righteous) thing to do.

Well sure, it's whole 'nother thing actually being in the shit, but there's always that question in the back of the mind of how your conscience is going to compel you to behave once you're face to face with a fellow Hawaiian and following orders is as immutable as death. I decided to be as humane as possible up to the point where me and my buddy's lives were imminently at stake. Never know until it actually goes down....
Hawaii is different from the mainland.
 

HomerJS

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Amazes me why Democrats like Fetterman claim other Democrats don't condemn violence when see numerous examples of Democrats doing that very thing.

  • Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) criticized his party for not condemning violent protests, stating that Democrats risk losing the "moral high ground" if they fail to denounce destruction and attacks on law enforcement2.
  • Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D) urged protesters to remain peaceful, emphasizing that "looting and vandalism will not be tolerated." She also warned demonstrators not to "fall into the Trump Administration’s trap."
  • California Governor Gavin Newsom (D) condemned the deployment of the National Guard, calling it "reckless." He argued that federal intervention escalates tensions rather than restores order.
 
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fskimospy

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Fetterman is basically done politically as a D. And the LA situation is absolutely, positively, not helping Trump.

Now, that first line only applies if we ever have "real" elections again.
Fetterman appears to know this and is doing the standard grift where you become the 'Democrat who hates Democrats'. I would not be remotely surprised if he turns out to be some Fox News contributor or gets a cushy job at some right wing organization. I doubt he will win re-election.
 

Pens1566

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Fetterman appears to know this and is doing the standard grift where you become the 'Democrat who hates Democrats'. I would not be remotely surprised if he turns out to be some Fox News contributor or gets a cushy job at some right wing organization. I doubt he will win re-election.

He's Sinema cosplaying as Lurch.
 
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fskimospy

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fskimospy

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Yeah because they want more kids to be born. Then die. Then be born some more. Bastards are literally Satanists who revel in the suffering of mothers, babies and children.
I think the entire abortion debate makes a lot more sense if you view it as an attempt to control women's sexual agency and not as a debate about babies.

To me this is never clearer than when Republicans say they are okay with a rape exception to their laws because it's not the woman's 'fault'. If it's a real live human why would the mom's actions be relevant? After all it's not like if you're six and your mom does something bad they can throw you in prison.
 
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Muse

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No money for sick kids but plenty of money to use the military against civilians.
Trump who has never worked a job in his life, at great expense, is sicing 1000s of Marines and California National Guard (without California's request or permission) on people protesting the arrest of working people at jobsites, who will maybe never see their families again. Hell spawn.
 
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HomerJS

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Probabaly an illegal alien.
Was the guy in the shite t-shirt arrested? If not we don't know if he is a pro-Mexican protestor. Regardless that name alone misrepresents the protest. Probably posted by some right wing outlet.

For all we know it is an out of state agitator trying to stir up violence.
 
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