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NWRMidnight

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This would occur after he is gone of course.
That's a bit to late, don't you think? Or are you not thinking about the hundreds if not thousands, ten's of thousands (who knows), of innocent people's lives that will be lost between now and then? You also seem to believe that there won't be a more deranged and dangerious person to take Trump's place. Many people are concerned about Vance taking over, as he is just as fucked up as Trump, but smarter.
 

nakedfrog

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There are FAT people in the military???

Will they be deployed with electric scooters or Segways in the field???
You can be a little chubby, but if you get over a certain weight (if the weight is legit muscle they'll do a body fat test instead), you risk disciplinary action if you don't slim down.
But some people can "look" fatter at the same weight.
 

VRAMdemon

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$134 million in taxpayer funding just to make the situation 10x worse than if they weren't deployed.

That's like 10 weeks of Trump's golf budget

Grandpa still thinks the government runs on actual Monopoly money. Republicans pissed away 134 million dollars to have the National Guard stand around doing nothing.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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What is the source of this list? “Not look fat” is not on the list of phrases I would expect from a military source.
You might be surprised. There's too many people that skirt the line of 'can pass PT test' but look like shit on the ordinary.

They're looking for a press photo and don't want to look like a tub of ass in the process.

Kind of like this. Nobody wants to look like this in the news:
 

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Return of the Brick Theory!

When will the Trump admin introduce brick-control laws?


Conspiratorial conservatives are grasping at familiar bogeymen. A post to X on Saturday claiming that “Soros-funded organizations” had dropped off pallets of bricks near Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) facilities received more than 9,500 retweets and was viewed more than 800,000 times.
 

VRAMdemon

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What propaganda?

So now Democrats are not only unpopular, uncool, but also openly derided by military and LE.


Jesus fucking Christ! do you ever get tired of being a Surrender Monkey and a Trump collaborator on here? Oh No's! the polls say "this", and the "polls" say that! we should just bend over and take whatever law-breaking shit he's shoving up our ass. Carrying water for Trump seems to be your forte! You're not fooling anyone with your schtick.

He’s testing the soldiers tolerance for what he’s openly stating he wants to do. Using the troops for his sad ego-stroke rallies is despicable. Trump clearly believes the military should be loyal to him personally and is testing the waters. In normal times, any soldier participating in a partisan political rally would be disciplined. He’s testing them to see if they’ll follow through with his orders to, more than likely kill American citizens that Trump doesn't like. To avenge his hurt feelings and perpetually bruised ego.

Most enlisted folk will not challenge authority because the odds are stacked against them and the penalties are substantial for disobedience. If anyone was likely to disobey an illegal order, it would be officers higher up the chain. They were forced to be there. And they were probably forced to cheer for Trump. Trump's first official acts was a broad purge of officers from the military. No other president in U.S. history has done such a thing. Every soldier that booed in support of trump's stochastic terrorism should be under review.

Welcome to Trump's Wannabe Military Dictatorship Week
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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It might be a bold strategy, but it will also lead to a very deadly blood bath, as those that support his views will have no problem marching in and opening fire on innocent civilians with no warning. When that happens, it will be a small number of locations at once, and then move on to the next targeted locations. rinse and repeat until they clear out those that appose him across the nation.
Gestapo and SS forming.
 

Muse

Lifer
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He can weaponize people with small brains who will just be deadly retards. In the end, he will lose. They will lose. No dictatorship lasts forever. He can have his try. He can make people fight for the truth, make them martyrs, make them suffer but truth always wins in the end.
A bit of a fairy tale, but I can't argue with the sentiment.
 

Muse

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Some folks in Seattle are blockading a federal building containing some ICE folks and detainees, they've blocked the garage entrance with some Lime bikes.
There's going to be some creativity going forward, you can rely on that. Resistance can take many forms, a lot of them unexpected and difficult to imagine in advance.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Local news on the NBC affiliate tonight after national news showed an unedited portion of Gavin Newsom's address to the people of California and the nation tonight that was delivered concurrent with NBC national news. I highly recommend watching it. Strong message. Newsom can really deliver sometimes.


The most important person in a republic is not the president and certainly not the governor, it's the citizen.
 
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Jaskalas

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Suppose an appeal to reason and to American decency is the best we can hope for from a politician.
I fear it will fall short, as humans have no reason and we Americans have no decency.
Look to the election results, and to Jan 6th for proof enough.

But at least someone is holding the light, shining that beacon upon the hill. Aspiring people to believe in the America that was. That should have been.
Hope for a peaceful resolution does not reach me, my mind turns to the MAGA violence that is inevitable.
They will not be stopped by civil discourse or conduct. Our grandfathers knew what it took to stop Nazis.

If MAGA is what I believe it to be, then the next real Democrat leader will be a combat veteran from the streets.
Guess we shall see. Governor Newsom had some great words to share, for those who still hope.

I preserve those words below.


Governor Newsom’s Address to California: Democracy at a Crossroads

I want to say a few words about the events of the last few days.​
This past weekend, federal agents conducted large-scale workplace raids in and around Los Angeles.​
Those raids continue as I speak.​
California is no stranger to immigration enforcement.​
But instead of focusing on undocumented immigrants with serious criminal records and people with final deportation orders – a strategy both parties have long supported – this administration is pushing mass deportations.​
Indiscriminately targeting hardworking immigrant families, regardless of their roots or risk.​
What’s happening right now is very different than anything we’ve seen before.​
On Saturday morning, when federal agents jumped out of an unmarked van near a Home Depot parking lot, they began grabbing people.​
A deliberate targeting of a heavily Latino suburb.​
A similar scene also played out when a clothing company was raided downtown.​
In other actions: a US citizen, 9 months pregnant – arrested. A four-year-old girl – taken.​
Families separated. Friends disappearing.​
In response, everyday Angelinos came out to exercise their Constitutional right to free speech and assembly​
To protest their government’s actions.​
In turn, the State of California and the City and County of Los Angeles sent our police officers to help keep the peace, and with some exceptions, they were successful.​
Like many states, California is no stranger to this sort of civil unrest. We manage it regularly … and with our own law enforcement.​
But this, again, was different.​
What then ensued was the use of tear gas. Flash-bang grenades. Rubber bullets.​
Federal agents, detaining people and undermining their due process rights.​
Donald Trump, without consulting with California’s law enforcement leaders, commandeered 2,000 of our state’s National Guard members to deploy on our streets.​
Illegally, and for no reason.​
This brazen abuse of power by a sitting President inflamed a combustible situation … putting our people, our officers, and the National Guard at risk.​
That’s when the downward spiral began. He doubled down on his dangerous National Guard deployment by fanning the flames even harder.​
And the President did it on purpose.​
As the news spread throughout LA, anxiety for family and friends ramped up. Protests started again.​
By night, several dozen lawbreakers became violent and destructive. They vandalized property. They tried to assault police officers.​
Many of you have seen video clips of cars burning on cable news.​
If you incite violence or destroy our communities, you are going to be held accountable.​
That kind of criminal behavior will not be tolerated. Full stop.​
Already, more than 370 people have been arrested. And we’re reviewing tapes to build additional cases, and people will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.​
Again, thanks to our law enforcement officers and the majority of Angelenos who protested peacefully, this situation was winding down and was concentrated in just a few square blocks downtown.​
But that’s not what Donald Trump wanted.​
He again chose escalation; he chose more force.​
He chose theatrics over public safety – he federalized another 2,000 Guard members.​
He deployed more than 700 active U.S. Marines.​
These are men and women trained in foreign combat, not domestic law enforcement.​
We honor their service. We honor their bravery. But we do not want our streets militarized by our own Armed Forces. Not in L.A. Not in California. Not anywhere.​
We’re seeing unmarked cars in school parking lots. Kids, afraid to attend their own graduation.​
Trump is pulling a military dragnet across LA, well beyond his stated intent to just go after violent and serious criminals.​
His agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers and seamstresses – That’s just weakness. Weakness, masquerading as strength.​
Donald Trump’s government isn’t protecting our communities – they are traumatizing our communities. And that seems to be the point.​
California will keep fighting on behalf of our people – all of our people – including in the courts.​
Yesterday, we filed a legal challenge to President Trump’s reckless deployment of American troops to a major American city.​
Today, we sought an emergency court order to stop the use of the American military to engage in law enforcement activities across Los Angeles.​
If some of us can be snatched off the streets without a warrant, based only on suspicion or skin color, then none of us are safe.​
Authoritarian regimes begin by targeting people who are least able to defend themselves. But they do not stop there.​
Trump and his loyalists thrive on division because it allows them to take more power and exert even more control.​
By the way, Trump – he’s not opposed to lawlessness and violence, as long as it serves HIM.​
What more evidence do we need than January 6th?​
I ask everyone to take the time to reflect on this perilous moment.​
A president who wants to be bound by no law or constitution.​
Perpetrating a unified assault on American traditions.​
This is a President who, in just over 140 days, has fired government watchdogs that could hold him accountable for corruption and fraud.​
He’s declared a war on culture, on history, on science – on knowledge itself. Databases, quite literally vanishing.​
He’s delegitimizing news organizations and assaulting the First Amendment.​
At the threat of defunding them, he’s dictating what universities can teach.​
Targeting law firms and the judicial branch that are the foundation of an orderly, civil society.​
Calling for a sitting Governor to be arrested for no other reason than – to use his words – “for getting elected.”​
And we all know, this Saturday, he’s ordering our American heroes – the United States military – forcing them to put on a vulgar display to celebrate his birthday, just as other failed dictators have done in the past.​
Look, this isn’t just about protests in LA.​
When Donald Trump sought blanket authority to commandeer the National Guard, he made that order apply to every state in this nation.​
This is about all of us. This is about you.​
California may be first – but it clearly won’t end here. Other states are next.​
Democracy is next.​
Democracy is under assault right before our eyes – the moment we’ve feared has arrived.​
He’s taking a wrecking ball to our founding fathers’ historic project.​
Three independent, coequal branches of government.​
There are no longer any checks and balances. Congress is nowhere to be found. Speaker Johnson has completely abdicated that responsibility.​
The rule of law has increasingly given way to the rule of Don.​
The founding fathers did not live and die to see this moment.​
It’s time for all of us to stand up.​
Justice Brandeis said it best: in a democracy, the most important office is not president, it’s certainly not governor. The most important office is office of citizen.​
At this moment, we must all stand up and be held to a higher level of accountability.​
If you exercise your First Amendment rights, please do so peacefully.​
I know many of you are feeling deep anxiety, stress, and fear.​
But I want you to know that YOU are the antidote to that fear and anxiety.​
What Donald Trump wants most is your fealty. Your silence. To be complicit in this moment.​
Do NOT give in to him.​
 
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