Mass Effect 2...explain?

[spaceman]

also 2 is superior to one
2 is a modren masterpiece
it is a game that 15 yrs from now will be cited as an all time great
book it

 

[Slammy1]

I didn't give it much chance, I guess, but it seemed a little too consoley for my taste. So is AoD, which I like so go figure (big BG fan).

 

[Kristijonas]

Have you tried trainers?

Used a save game editor, set my renegade to 999. Got Morinth. Went through the suicide mission without a single loss (except a few expendable crew members including Kelly). Save game ready for ME3. As for ME1 vs ME2 it's hard to compare. ME1 could take all the credit just because of how grand it is as a new game (compliments to whomever thought up all the setting!) ME2 is a better polished version of ME1. Less bugs, more content, better content in ME2. The only think I missed in ME2 is the weapon choice which is almost non existant. At least for an adept.

 

[Sulaco]

OP, no offense, but what on earth would compel you start an RPG trilogy in the middle with the second game, with "2" in it's title? Didn't just seeing that "2" there make you think, "Hmm, maybe I should try out '1' first"

I could see if it were a sequel to a game that came out a decade ago, and you just didn't want to have to deal with antiquated gameplay and graphics, but they're mostly identical.

Hopefully, playing so far into the sequel hasn't now ruined any of the story or spoilers for you.

 

[vrait]

Well, that is what happens when you start in the middle of a trilogy. Now you screwed everything up haha.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Both Mass Effect 1 and 2 had a storyline that was continuing through the 2 games and hopefully will be resolved in a great climax in Mass Effect 3. The first game was more RPG oriented while the second game tended to be more of a shooter. What makes the games good to me is the characters, moral choices, and storyline.

However, to me KOTOR 1 and to a lesser extent KOTOR 2 were both superior to the Mass Effect series. If you are more oriented to RPG elements than shooters, I would highly recommend KOTOR I. Too bad EA and Bioware got dollar signs in their eyes and turned the franchise into an MMO instead of making a 3rd single player game.

 

[Schadenfroh]

which in broad strokes could be considered 'generic' (many Sci-fi themes are the same throughout different IPs)

ME's plot is a mixture of various Sci-Fi books like Dune, Star Wars and Star Trek.

ME1's overall plot is a modification of Star Control 3's plot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Control_3#Plot

Replace Precurser with Prothean and Eternal One with Reaper.

 

[emilyek]

ME2 is much slicker and tighter than the first.

But it narrows and "streamlines" itself so much that it fails to be as good a game.

Moreover, on top of that ME2 has zero reason to exist with respect to the overall plot; it advances nothing and it clears up nothing: all it does is add a superfluous enemy (i.e., "the Collectors"), just so it can run in place until it's time for ME3.

ME2 is nothing more than a placeholder for ME3-- a very slick and cinematic placeholder. Admittedly, some of the character reunions from ME1 are really good, but it's not an honest game.

Because, like I said: ME2's main reason for existing is to string ME1 players along (whom they know will buy both ME2 and 3) while not alienating the new-to-the-franchise buyers of ME2 (whom they hope will also buy ME3).

 

[apoppin]

Well, that is what happens when you start in the middle of a trilogy. Now you screwed everything up haha.

What about Fallout 3?

i am D/L'ing the GotY version right now and i haven't played any of the games - or know anything about - the Fallout universe.

Am i at a disadvantage beginning with Fallout 3?
- i survived beginning with Gothic 3.

 

[Dumac]

What about Fallout 3?

i am D/L'ing the GotY version right now and i haven't played any of the games - or know anything about - the Fallout universe.

Am i at a disadvantage beginning with Fallout 3?
- i survived beginning with Gothic 3.

No, Fallout 3 is fine to play. There isn't a continued character from the first game, and the game was actually made for people who have never played Fallout before.

 

[Sulaco]

What about Fallout 3?

i am D/L'ing the GotY version right now and i haven't played any of the games - or know anything about - the Fallout universe.

Am i at a disadvantage beginning with Fallout 3?
- i survived beginning with Gothic 3.

Totally apples and oranges...

 

[apoppin]

Totally apples and oranges...

How'z that?

Letsee .. they are both PC games; ME3 and FO3 are both action-RPGs. They are both trilogys and i was responding directly to this:

Well, that is what happens when you start in the middle of a trilogy. Now you screwed everything up haha.

i am going to start Fallout 3 - at the end of a trilogy. However, a poster explained that Fallout 3 is meant to be played independently of the first two games.

 

[Red Hawk]

Moreover, on top of that ME2 has zero reason to exist with respect to the overall plot; it advances nothing and it clears up nothing: all it does is add a superfluous enemy (i.e., "the Collectors"), just so it can run in place until it's time for ME3.

ME2 is nothing more than a placeholder for ME3-- a very slick and cinematic placeholder. Admittedly, some of the character reunions from ME1 are really good, but it's not an honest game.

Because, like I said: ME2's main reason for existing is to string ME1 players along (whom they know will buy both ME2 and 3) while not alienating the new-to-the-franchise buyers of ME2 (whom they hope will also buy ME3).

False. False, and false.

Spoiler

The Collectors serve to illustrate that the Reapers are interested in humanity specifically, possibly why they are interested in humanity, and possibly why they regularly harvest life in the galaxy in general. Those are key points that ME3 can now operate on.

There's also various other details, like:
Wrex is uniting the krogan
Mordin has a possible cure for the genophage
The geth aren't all bad and might be allies later on
Your actions may determine if the quarians go to war with the geth
Technology from the Collector base may be key to fighting the Reapers
Shepard may or may not still be a spectre
Cerberus may or may not be Shepard's enemy.

There's also the Shadow Broker DLC, which ends with Liara becoming the new Shadow Broker.

ME2 added all of this. I'll bet my left eye that a lot, if not all, of these points will be used in ME3 and will affect the fight against the Reapers.

How'z that?

Letsee .. they are both PC games; ME3 and FO3 are both action-RPGs. They are both trilogys and i was responding directly to this:

i am going to start Fallout 3 - at the end of a trilogy. However, a poster explained that Fallout 3 is meant to be played independently of the first two games.

The difference is that while Fallout ended up as a trilogy it was not intended to be so. They didn't have a pre-conceived idea of a story arc between the games, and just made up all-new stuff as they went. However, the overarching plot of all 3 Mass Effect games was already planned when ME1 released. Each game is integral to completely experiencing the other, and it's meant to be. That's the difference.

 

[apoppin]

OK. However, it is not necessary to experience anything other than Oblivion - you do not have to play the earlier TeS games; same with NeverWinter Nights 2 ... or most good standalone games in a series including Fable and B&W.

 

[airdata]

It was good, but ME1 was better.

yep.

ME1 blew me away. Without a doubt one of my top 5 games of all time. I really liked ME2 as well, it just threw me off a little at first because I started it right after I finished ME1 and alot of the controls were different and different things were different as well.

 

[Red Hawk]

As far as controls go ME2 was mostly better than ME1 as well. Well, menu options weren't hotkeyed, but that didn't really affect the gameplay.

 

[vrait]

OK. However, it is not necessary to experience anything other than Oblivion - you do not have to play the earlier TeS games; same with NeverWinter Nights 2 ... or most good standalone games in a series including Fable and B&W.

Fallout isn't a trilogy. The games are NOT connected.

Mass Effect 2 is a DIRECT sequel to Mass Effect 1.

You can't even compare the two.

Fallout is a series of different stories, based on the world.

The Mass Effect games have a story about one character.

 

[apoppin]

You can't even compare the two.

Of course you can compare them

Which universe do you like better?
--i am about to start playing F03 GotY; it'll be awhile before i get to ME series

 

[vrait]

Of course you can compare them

Which universe do you like better?
--i am about to start playing F03 GotY; it'll be awhile before i get to ME series

You can't compare them.

Mass Effect is a:
Action-rpg
Sci-fi
A character Trilogy.

Fallout 3+ is:
Open-world RPG with a few action elements.
Retro-sci-fi
All games are about different characters at different times. The old ones arnt even the same type of game.
Fallout 1,2, and New Vegas are comedic. And don't take them selves seriously.

They both play completely different.


I like both universes a lot. If I had to choose I would say Mass Effect, cause its awe-inspiring. Both are great games, with good history though.

 

[apoppin]

You can compare ANY two things - and FO and ME are both PC games franchises - you actually did a comparison - thank-you
(except Ross, i guess, they say there is no comparison )

 

[vrait]

You can compare ANY two things - and FO and ME are both PC games franchises - you actually did a comparison - thank-you
(except Ross, i guess, they say there is no comparison )

Well when we say you can't really compare them, we mean they are both very different. So say, asking which one to buy over the other wouldn't make since. Because they are both quite a bit different.

It's not like asking which racing game, or rpg to buy. Both games play very differently.

 

[apoppin]

i was being facetious .. sorry; Of course, you can compare anything ..
:$

i am finishing up my 4-month long, 80+ game evaluation of 3D Vision this week and i am back to reviewing HW. It was a great "vacation" while it lasted. As part of the evaluation, i played 6 brand new games from start to finish in S3D - more new games than i completed in the last 3 years combined.
---it may be a long while before i get to really finish FO3 or play ME/2
:'(

 

[Via]

Slight tangent, but don't want to make a new thread:

I just started a new game of Mass Effect. I didn't even realize the Bring down the Sky DLC was free.

For anybody who's gotten it:

Is it worth it, and can I use a Steam key to register with Bioware?

Would I have to start over?

 

[Red Hawk]

Slight tangent, but don't want to make a new thread:

I just started a new game of Mass Effect. I didn't even realize the Bring down the Sky DLC was free.

For anybody who's gotten it:

Is it worth it, and can I use a Steam key to register with Bioware?

Would I have to start over?

It's an ok mission, better to have it in your game than not. You use key included in Steam to register your game and access the download, but you have to do it through their old website rather than their current one. Full instructions here.

 

[Via]

Thanks