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Iron Woode

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people seem to fail to understand that childhood vaccines wear off over time. You are not immune for life.

make sure you get your boosters, people.
 
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K1052

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people seem to fail to understand that childhood vaccines wear off over time. You are not immune for life.

make sure you get your boosters, people.

The measles vaccine is supposed to be about 95% effective for life if you received both doses of the live attenuated vaccine. Some people in the 50s and 60s received inactivated virus vaccine for which a modern booster is recommended. Also certain groups of people are recommended to receive a booster as well if they are in congregate living/working conditions or travel a lot outside the US.
 
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The measles vaccine is supposed to be about 95% effective for life if you received both doses of the live attenuated vaccine. Some people in the 50s and 60s received inactivated virus vaccine for which a modern booster is recommended. Also certain groups of people are recommended to receive a booster as well if they are in congregate living/working conditions or travel a lot outside the US.
Yep. Length of protection is somewhat vaccine dependent. Some need periodic boosters (like TDAP), others are relatively effective for life (Hep B, MMR), and may only need boosters for certain high-risk things (like being an infectious disease specialist or traveling to developing countries).
 
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FelixDeCat

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The measles vaccine is supposed to be about 95% effective for life if you received both doses of the live attenuated vaccine. Some people in the 50s and 60s received inactivated virus vaccine for which a modern booster is recommended. Also certain groups of people are recommended to receive a booster as well if they are in congregate living/working conditions or travel a lot outside the US.
Thank goodness because I hate vaccines. Two of the strongest I have ever gotten was one in 1990. A few months later I developed my first autoimmune disease UC. 20 years of suffering for nothing.

The next was the Covid vaccine and booster. One year later my 2nd autoimmune disease..Psoriasis.

Turns out altering MY immune system is a bad idea. Your results my vary, make your own decisions.

Never again for me however.
 

pete6032

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I just hope it wasn't one of the children. Prefer it to be one of their fucking stupid parents that didn't get them vaccinated.
The first sentence in the article:
A school-age child has died of measles in West Texas, the first death from the disease in a decade in the United States.
 
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Thank goodness because I hate vaccines. Two of the strongest I have ever gotten was one in 1990. A few months later I developed my first autoimmune disease UC. 20 years of suffering for nothing.

The next was the Covid vaccine and booster. One year later my 2nd autoimmune disease..Psoriasis.

Turns out altering MY immune system is a bad idea. Your results my vary, make your own decisions.

Never again for me however.
Sounds like a big fat coincidence. Developing an autoimmune condition months after vaccination is almost certainly going to be ruled unrelated to vaccination.

And also, half of what you wrote: these things don't work like that at all. You have all the information at the tips of your fingers with the Internet, yet somehow you're still a huge ignoramus.
 

Brovane

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The measles vaccine is supposed to be about 95% effective for life if you received both doses of the live attenuated vaccine. Some people in the 50s and 60s received inactivated virus vaccine for which a modern booster is recommended. Also certain groups of people are recommended to receive a booster as well if they are in congregate living/working conditions or travel a lot outside the US.

Measles vaccine came out in the 60's. Before then people got Measles as a child and either recovered and cleared the virus or died from it. Luckily now we have a vaccine so kids don't have to go through that. I had Chicken Pox as a kid, no fun but it was just a right of passage growing up in the 80's. Now my kids got vaccinated for Chicken Pox which is much better route. Those Baby Boomers who grew up in the 50's and had Measles as a kid, should have immunity for life.
 

Iron Woode

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Yep. Length of protection is somewhat vaccine dependent. Some need periodic boosters (like TDAP), others are relatively effective for life (Hep B, MMR), and may only need boosters for certain high-risk things (like being an infectious disease specialist or traveling to developing countries).
I make sure I get the Pertussis booster when I get my tetanus booster every 10 years.
 

mikeymikec

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Thank goodness because I hate vaccines. Two of the strongest I have ever gotten was one in 1990. A few months later I developed my first autoimmune disease UC. 20 years of suffering for nothing.

The next was the Covid vaccine and booster. One year later my 2nd autoimmune disease..Psoriasis.

Turns out altering MY immune system is a bad idea. Your results my vary, make your own decisions.

Never again for me however.

Wouldn't it be weird that of all the billions of chance interactions and resulting adaptations that your immune system has made to itself during your life, that two out of those interactions were in highly controlled circumstances through efforts by people who have made the study of the immune system their life's work (as well as the knowledge of the specialists who preceded them), that those two interactions must be the cause for your autoimmune diseases?

Have you considered ceasing all environmental interactions with your immune system? Might help. /s
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Measles vaccine came out in the 60's. Before then people got Measles as a child and either recovered and cleared the virus or died from it. Luckily now we have a vaccine so kids don't have to go through that. I had Chicken Pox as a kid, no fun but it was just a right of passage growing up in the 80's. Now my kids got vaccinated for Chicken Pox which is much better route. Those Baby Boomers who grew up in the 50's and had Measles as a kid, should have immunity for life.
Don't forget shingles. Many of us poor sad sacks that had pox parties as an idiot child in the 80's will get to play with shingles in our 60s or whatever.
 

Iron Woode

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Measles vaccine came out in the 60's. Before then people got Measles as a child and either recovered and cleared the virus or died from it. Luckily now we have a vaccine so kids don't have to go through that. I had Chicken Pox as a kid, no fun but it was just a right of passage growing up in the 80's. Now my kids got vaccinated for Chicken Pox which is much better route. Those Baby Boomers who grew up in the 50's and had Measles as a kid, should have immunity for life.
I had chicken pox in 1970. I don't want an outbreak of shingles now in my older years. Those who've been vaccinated are lucky to not get shingles.
 

sdifox

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Don't forget shingles. Many of us poor sad sacks that had pox parties as an idiot child in the 80's will get to play with shingles in our 60s or whatever.


Fortunately there is a vaccine for that. Shingles got Shania Twain and wrecked her voice.

 

K1052

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Measles vaccine came out in the 60's. Before then people got Measles as a child and either recovered and cleared the virus or died from it. Luckily now we have a vaccine so kids don't have to go through that. I had Chicken Pox as a kid, no fun but it was just a right of passage growing up in the 80's. Now my kids got vaccinated for Chicken Pox which is much better route. Those Baby Boomers who grew up in the 50's and had Measles as a kid, should have immunity for life.

Testing of killed virus vaccines began in 1958. The attenuated version that we have still today was licensed in 1963. I'm not sure what number of people were inoculated with the inactivated versions in that time span but I assume that is the reason a booster is advised for people who may have received it.
 

mikeymikec

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Sounds like a big fat coincidence. Developing an autoimmune condition months after vaccination is almost certainly going to be ruled unrelated to vaccination.

A further point to make here is that if any autoimmune disease acquired a year after vaccination is valid to blame on the vaccine, what's the upper limit here, for this "I haven't the foggiest idea what the mechanism is for a reaction to take as long as this" situation.

100% of administered vaccines result in death, don't you know...
 
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K1052

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Just turned 50 I have been talking to my doctor about getting the Shingles vaccine.

I'm in my early 40s and would really really like to have this now instead of waiting. Have seen a number of people in my age range go through shingles and no thank you please.
 

BoomerD

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I had chicken pox in 1970. I don't want an outbreak of shingles now in my older years. Those who've been vaccinated are lucky to not get shingles.
In the early 60s, I was “lucky” enough to get chicken pox and both kinds of measles…then scarlet fever…that one REALLY sucked. Try as hard as we could, I never could catch thee mumps…all the families in the neighborhood had “mumps parties” and sleepovers when one of the kids had the mumps…nowadays, there’s a vaccine for that…and at my age, I DO NOT want the mumps, so I got the vaccine.
A few years ago, I got both the shingles vaccine and the pneumonia vaccines. (Prevnar 13 and Zostavax) Now, it turns out, the ones I got weren’t effective…so I get to get them again.
 

hal2kilo

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people seem to fail to understand that childhood vaccines wear off over time. You are not immune for life.

make sure you get your boosters, people.
Shit I'm 70 and I keep wondering if I should get an MRI vaccine. Between measles and whooping cough running around.
 

Pens1566

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I'm in my early 40s and would really really like to have this now instead of waiting. Have seen a number of people in my age range go through shingles and no thank you please.

Shingrix can be given earlier. It's entirely up to your doc.
 
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