Mechwarrior Online (Previously MW5/MW3015)

[Fallen Kell]

The founders are just stock mechs that can be bought in game. Only difference is you get a 25% cbill bonus when using it and a different skin.
So youre not missing much if you dont get the $120 package. Youll just have to buy the 4 mechs in game if you really want them. And they're not the best varients either, so you may be better off buying a different model.

I would agree with this. Out of the founders, really only the Atlas is the best varient (at least as currently balanced weapon wise). The LRM cat is almost useless outside of the rare occasion when you have a team that knows how to use them (i.e. you need scouts), the only good hunch is the laser hunch, and the best jenner is the one that can fit 6 lasers (which if I just look at my kill/death ratio while using is something un-godly like 60:1 or more as I have only died 1 time in that thing).

 

[HydroSqueegee]

I would agree with this. Out of the founders, really only the Atlas is the best varient (at least as currently balanced weapon wise). The LRM cat is almost useless outside of the rare occasion when you have a team that knows how to use them (i.e. you need scouts), the only good hunch is the laser hunch, and the best jenner is the one that can fit 6 lasers (which if I just look at my kill/death ratio while using is something un-godly like 60:1 or more as I have only died 1 time in that thing).

i find the founders jenner usefull. 4x SLas, 2xSRM4 and a maxed out XL (300 i think). be even better when NARC is in.

 

[child of wonder]

Yeah, LRMs have been pretty much neutered until NARC comes out.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

oh man. i really hope they put different ammo types in. thattl just make me giddy!

 

[child of wonder]

oh man. i really hope they put different ammo types in. thattl just make me giddy!

Maybe. I could see Thunder-Aug LRMs being abused.

 

[Elcs]

oh man. i really hope they put different ammo types in. thattl just make me giddy!

In 3049 I believe there were just 2 (maybe 3) ammo types.

Slug - the standard single location damage autocannon round
Cluster - the main reason people know of the LB-X. A solid round which fragments before impact.

I also think they had Armour Piercing rounds but I could be wrong. If I remember my Sarna readings, a handful of new ammo types were developed in the mid to late 3050's with them becoming available in the late 3050's and beyond.

 

[Fallen Kell]

i find the founders jenner usefull. 4x SLas, 2xSRM4 and a maxed out XL (300 i think). be even better when NARC is in.

Except you have no armor or extremely poor heat dissipation to the point that you can only make 3 volleys and then need to disengage and pull out to reduce heat. I also use the 300XL engine, but my 6 small lasers are only 3 tons of weight. Your 4x SLas, 2xSRM4s are at least 7-8 tons (depending on how many tons of ammo you have). The 6x SLas+300XL allows for max armor and enough heatsinks to dissipate the heat. You can get about 7-8 alpha strikes off and then just need to stagger fire 3x at a time till the heat comes down, but you are constantly putting out damage, which forces large slow mechs to have to respond to you and opening them up to attack from others on your team if you can't stick to them (even though you should be able to).

 

[lupi]

unless they nerf the armor bonus, don't see lbx ever being useful.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

unless they nerf the armor bonus, don't see lbx ever being useful.

i actually tested out my rarely driven AS7-D earlier. i call it the LBXlass. 2x LB10X 2xMLas 2xSRM6. it wasnt a horrible design. pretty fun. dispatched 2 other atlii and didnt die. so not bad for an inexperianced assault pilot.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

Except you have no armor or extremely poor heat dissipation to the point that you can only make 3 volleys and then need to disengage and pull out to reduce heat. I also use the 300XL engine, but my 6 small lasers are only 3 tons of weight. Your 4x SLas, 2xSRM4s are at least 7-8 tons (depending on how many tons of ammo you have). The 6x SLas+300XL allows for max armor and enough heatsinks to dissipate the heat. You can get about 7-8 alpha strikes off and then just need to stagger fire 3x at a time till the heat comes down, but you are constantly putting out damage, which forces large slow mechs to have to respond to you and opening them up to attack from others on your team if you can't stick to them (even though you should be able to).

its still a fun ride. those 2x SRM4s and 2ton ammo only weigh 6 tons. armor isnt maxed, but its close. 224/238 and 13 heat sinks

 

[Possessed Freak]

Here is hoping I can ween myself off WoT as I may have just got into the close beta...

 

[Harabec]

I hope you have a quad core

 

[Nintendesert]

Here is hoping I can ween myself off WoT as I may have just got into the close beta...

Tons of 6v6 arty-parties did all the weening I needed. Maybe 8.0 will change things but I'm enjoying MWO much more.

 

[PowerYoga]

If I was any good at this game I'd probably enjoy it more.

Need to get a handle on how to lead targets and where to shoot. I'm just splashing all over the place and can never seem to down a mech while they seem to kill me fast.

 

[child of wonder]

If I was any good at this game I'd probably enjoy it more.

Need to get a handle on how to lead targets and where to shoot. I'm just splashing all over the place and can never seem to down a mech while they seem to kill me fast.

I'd highly suggest a gaming mouse that lets you control the sensitivity on the fly. I've been using a Logitech G5 and my aim is infinitely better than with a standard mouse. Night and day difference.

 

[PowerYoga]

I'd highly suggest a gaming mouse that lets you control the sensitivity on the fly. I've been using a Logitech G5 and my aim is infinitely better than with a standard mouse. Night and day difference.

I do have a G5, but I never played with the sensitivity settings. Might be the first time I'll need it... Can't get headshots with the mouse flying all over the place.

 

[Fallen Kell]

i actually tested out my rarely driven AS7-D earlier. i call it the LBXlass. 2x LB10X 2xMLas 2xSRM6. it wasnt a horrible design. pretty fun. dispatched 2 other atlii and didnt die. so not bad for an inexperianced assault pilot.

The D is my go-to atlas, but I use 2x UAC5's instead. That said, I am an experienced assault pilot You will find the UAC5's being a much better weapon once you learn where to aim since their damage is focused. With the super fast reload/cycle times of the UAC5 and good range, you will be blowing off heads a lot faster.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I'd highly suggest a gaming mouse that lets you control the sensitivity on the fly. I've been using a Logitech G5 and my aim is infinitely better than with a standard mouse. Night and day difference.

100% agree with this. You almost need this ability on this game for shooting at long range (aside from the LRM guys). Then again, with the current maps, there is almost no need to long range direct fire weapons anyway. I typically focus on the 200-300m range since that tends to be where most encounters take place (heck sensors will typically not pickup something more than 600m away to begin with).

 

[HydroSqueegee]

The D is my go-to atlas, but I use 2x UAC5's instead. That said, I am an experienced assault pilot You will find the UAC5's being a much better weapon once you learn where to aim since their damage is focused. With the super fast reload/cycle times of the UAC5 and good range, you will be blowing off heads a lot faster.

I tried something different since my K2 runs dual UAC5's. managed to remake that K2 Build with a standard engine so i can roll with it and die without too much worry. a fair bit slower, and not as much ammo, but i managed to pack in an extra heat sink and a couple extra MLasers.

Its tough not to just mash my fire button with the UACs now that jammings in. Have to actually think and remind myself to just give it one burst every couple shots.

I was running with a few guys from penny arcade last night and we came up against an orginized group of 8. they just steamrolled us with nothing but fast laser boats. 8Qs, Dragons, Jenners and Hunchies.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I was running with a few guys from penny arcade last night and we came up against an orginized group of 8. they just steamrolled us with nothing but fast laser boats. 8Qs, Dragons, Jenners and Hunchies.

Yeah, this is why I have been liking my Jenner more and more. I find that in random battles, even if my team sucks, I can usually get 1-2 kills in and survive the fight. In the atlas, you live and die with your team... You might get 3-5 kills in the battle, but if you have even 2 clueless people on the team, you die because your team got picked apart by sheer numbers.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

Yeah, this is why I have been liking my Jenner more and more. I find that in random battles, even if my team sucks, I can usually get 1-2 kills in and survive the fight. In the atlas, you live and die with your team... You might get 3-5 kills in the battle, but if you have even 2 clueless people on the team, you die because your team got picked apart by sheer numbers.

its was only us 4 from PA and and 4 Pubbies on forrest colony. we started at the bottom of the map. 4 pubbies broke up and went water. the other 4 of us got hit hard on the right. if all 8 of us were together we would have fared much better, but still would have lost.

im gonna see if i can stuff 2 AC20s in my K2 tonight.

 

[OSULugan]

im gonna see if i can stuff 2 AC20s in my K2 tonight.

You can do it, but you'll need to make some sacrifices in the engine or armor (or both) department to have decent ammo and heat dissipation. Since the AC20 takes 10 slots, you can't get an XL into the mech, which makes the situation worse. Of course, the problem with that is the short range of AC20 means you'll need to be up close and personal, in danger of over-heating, with thin armor and limited mobility.

This is why Gauss K2s, PPC K2s and/or UAC5 K2s are the order of the day.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

You can do it, but you'll need to make some sacrifices in the engine or armor (or both) department to have decent ammo and heat dissipation. Since the AC20 takes 10 slots, you can't get an XL into the mech, which makes the situation worse. Of course, the problem with that is the short range of AC20 means you'll need to be up close and personal, in danger of over-heating, with thin armor and limited mobility.

This is why Gauss K2s, PPC K2s and/or UAC5 K2s are the order of the day.

i know i can get them in with a standard engine, which is why i lament the lack of spanning locations with the AC20. its 1 crit short in the side torsos with an XL.

If i have to go 40kph to have decent armor and heat sinks, so be it. i WANT to run this guy for the lols.

ive had some fun and a fair amount of success with a 1 ERPPC, 1 Gauss K2.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

and where in the god damned hell is an option to save configurations and swap between them easily? Having 3 K2's in my stable is just taking up space because it takes so long to swap configs between matches.

 

[greenhawk]

im gonna see if i can stuff 2 AC20s in my K2 tonight.

it works, and you can keep most armour and a reasonable amount of ammo (about 20 double shots if you like the live fast approach)

downside with a small engine, and why I gave up is the slow turn speed. makes tracking anything closer than mid range pointless. About as useful to the team as a atlas without backup.

though I did get 2-3 kills if the enemy team was mostly only the heavy end of the weight scale. Nothing like coring the rear CT on a assult or heavy mech in a single click suprise appearance