Mechwarrior Online (Previously MW5/MW3015)

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BrightCandle

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Mar 15, 2007
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I was having a tonne of fun with this last week. This patch seems to have sucked the life out of it.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I was having a tonne of fun with this last week. This patch seems to have sucked the life out of it.

Give them time.

Look at it like this, before you can find a balance you need to know where both ends of the scale are, this needs to be established before you can balance anything.

Last week they were testing the high side where everyone was rooling in money, now its the low side where everyone starves.

Once they evaluate this data im sure they will attempt to find a happy spot somewhere in the middle, at least i hope so.
 

Harabec

Golden Member
Oct 15, 2005
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I asked for a refund.
Not really due to any particular stuff, I'm simply seeing they won't be able to get certain things done before my studies start next month.
I bought the Founder's Package as I thought they'd have a more polished version on Aug 7th but seems this is still closed, bugged and unoptimized beta still.

Hopefully by the time I'm done with this year (last one yay) I can get back to this. In the mean time - WoT.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I asked for a refund.
Not really due to any particular stuff, I'm simply seeing they won't be able to get certain things done before my studies start next month.
I bought the Founder's Package as I thought they'd have a more polished version on Aug 7th but seems this is still closed, bugged and unoptimized beta still.

Hopefully by the time I'm done with this year (last one yay) I can get back to this. In the mean time - WoT.

I dont blame you, when i purchased founders the game was supposd to be out by now, summer 2012. Now im positive it wont be out this year.
 

gorobei

Diamond Member
Jan 7, 2007
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consider it a perverse penalty for pre-funding a game.

all the people who bought the founders packs basically flushed(left flush?) the coffers for the development period. if the devs didnt have the money they would be rushing thru beta to get to gold and the typical start of revenue cycle.

any craftsman if given the money/time will take the opportunity to put out a better product. if they were operating like any other studio, the publisher would have pressured them to release during the summer.

once they got the funds from the founders packs, they probably overshot the required budget and decided to build a bigger/better game = take longer.

if all you founders hadnt dropped so much cash, the game would probably be out by now.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Dec 27, 2001
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I dont blame you, when i purchased founders the game was supposd to be out by now, summer 2012. Now im positive it wont be out this year.

I hope it won't be out this year. And by "out" I mean "open beta." They just have too much stuff to put in before starting the clock on my premium time so I won't throw a huge bitch fit.
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I hope it won't be out this year. And by "out" I mean "open beta." They just have too much stuff to put in before starting the clock on my premium time so I won't throw a huge bitch fit.

I agree, i want my premium to start no earlier than when they add community warfare, to bad im going to get screwed because they have already announced community warefare will be patched in after open beta.
 

Harabec

Golden Member
Oct 15, 2005
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Hmm, haven't had a reply from support about a refund yet, only the instant automated response.
 

exar333

Diamond Member
Feb 7, 2004
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Just downloaded the beta and am ready play. What do people who have already started suggest as a good starting point? I'm a little rusty on MW, since it's been a good 10 years since I played MW4.
 
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I'd start by logging into the beta forum and look at weapon binding and some of the other stickied posts. They are immensely helpful over just jumping in and getting frustrated.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Dec 27, 2001
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I was in my Gaussapult in a match on Caustic with about 300 Jenners. The funny thing is, I survived against all of them. They'd all run up next to me and overheat, and then 2 blasts to the face and donezo. The thing that actually did me in was another Gaussapult my team decided to ignore eventually came lumbering up and nailed me. And I actually almost got him too. :awe:
 

child of wonder

Diamond Member
Aug 31, 2006
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I was in my Gaussapult in a match on Caustic with about 300 Jenners. The funny thing is, I survived against all of them. They'd all run up next to me and overheat, and then 2 blasts to the face and donezo. The thing that actually did me in was another Gaussapult my team decided to ignore eventually came lumbering up and nailed me. And I actually almost got him too. :awe:

I find in PUGs the biggest problem is teammates don't lock onto enemies. Because of that, I have no clue where any opponents are outside of my line of sight so too often I walk around a corner or over a hill and there are 4 enemy Mechs fighting 2 of my teammates and neither of them locked on so I had no clue they were there.
 

greenhawk

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Feb 23, 2011
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I find in PUGs the biggest problem is teammates don't lock onto enemies. Because of that, I have no clue where any opponents are outside of my line of sight so too often I walk around a corner or over a hill and there are 4 enemy Mechs fighting 2 of my teammates and neither of them locked on so I had no clue they were there.

unless they changed it in a recent patch (RL has be 2 patches behind or so currently), the radar in the bottom corner shows/showed where the enemy is (if a friendly as LOS with it). Does not help if you want a lock for indirect firing but it does help to know which direction to head with a slow mech (which as I understand it from this update, is most of them).
 

Stuka87

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Dec 10, 2010
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Outside or making WAY less CBills per win, I am finding this patch to be ok. The main downside is I now have no Mechs outside of my founders mech to customize. I upgraded to a founder (I was in the closed beta because they chose me) and that wiped out my Mechs and my cash. And I really miss my Catapult with dual AC10's.

The main change I noticed was turret rotation speed was dropped a lot. Now I know once the game is farther along there will be XP based upgrades for changing things like turret rotation speed. So it could be they are getting ready for something like that.

And every bug I have entered they have gotten back to me the next day saying that it is a known issue. So hopefully they get fixed soon as they occur for me quite often.
 

Fallen Kell

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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Well, for the founders it is somewhat simple, buy an Atlas-K with the MC, take out the 300XL engine, strip the heatsinks and weapons, sell the rest of it, and buy a light with the left-over c-bills from selling the stripped atlas). Put the 300XL in the light and you are good to go... I am liking the new mech the added, feels like it survives a little better then the jenner and is a little harder to hit. And since it appears that it is faster then the jenner, the only thing I have to worry about getting on my 6 is another one of these with a similar max engine config. I took out 4 mechs and had 4 assists in one match. Had 5 kills and 2 assists in another, and had 3 kills and 4 assists in a third. Only died once (when I was fighting 4 jenners and a hunchback at the same time solo, but not before I killed the hunch and 3 of the jenners).

Now I only have 1 complaint about the gaussapult, it needs to have its torso twist limited slightly. It would be a lot more balanced if that was the case. As it currently stands, it is almost impossible to stay outside its weapons arch even if you sneak up from behind on one as it can twist to far (and/or too fast).
 
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Stuka87

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Well, for the founders it is somewhat simple, buy an Atlas-K with the MC, take out the 300XL engine, strip the heatsinks and weapons, sell the rest of it, and buy a light with the left-over c-bills from selling the stripped atlas). Put the 300XL in the light and you are good to go... I am liking the new mech the added, feels like it survives a little better then the jenner and is a little harder to hit. And since it appears that it is faster then the jenner, the only thing I have to worry about getting on my 6 is another one of these with a similar max engine config. I took out 4 mechs and had 4 assists in one match. Had 5 kills and 2 assists in another, and had 3 kills and 4 assists in a third. Only died once (when I was fighting 4 jenners and a hunchback at the same time solo, but not before I killed the hunch and 3 of the jenners).

Now I only have 1 complaint about the gaussapult, it needs to have its torso twist limited slightly. It would be a lot more balanced if that was the case. As it currently stands, it is almost impossible to stay outside its weapons arch even if you sneak up from behind on one as it can twist to far (and/or too fast).

They Raven has always been the best scout mech. I used it a lot in MW4. They are very fast and have a small silhouette. I used to stick 1 ER Large Laser on one and it worked very well. Have not had a chance to try one in MWO yet.
 

Gunbuster

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Oct 9, 1999
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Thankfully someone clicked on the wrong place and now i am in the Beta !

But i wish i could use an Atlas

More accurately I think they saw the player base drop through the floor from the wipe and horrible economy/grind combined with people peeling off for borderlands 2 so they decided to "accidentally" add people to the beta.
 

Fallen Kell

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
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I think it has a lot more to do with new games that have had a lot of anticipation coming out, Guild Wars 2, Torchlight 2, Borderlands 2... I mean, my game time has dropped dramatically in MWO, but I still pop on from time to time for a match or 3 just to keep up with changes and make sure my tactics have kept pace. >8:1kill ratio is still good with me, so I know I am still making the right choices. I can't wait for double heatsinks, endo-steel, and ferro-fibrous armor. That said, most of those things were not out until the clans arrived (well double heat sinks were).
 

GoodRevrnd

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Dec 27, 2001
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The Raven currently has no advantages over the Jenner. The Jenner is faster and smaller and packs essentially the same punch (or more). Large mechs have to aim down at the Jenner, which they don't have to do as much on the Raven. The Raven is nice though because it has a slim profile so it's harder to hit from behind. The other issues is you can never put an XL in a Raven because their side hit boxes for it don't make a lot of sense and extend forward on the main body quite a bit. This mech won't be truly useful until they put in the ECM/BAP packages and all that, and even then it still might not be depending on how they implement them. Right now you can turn one into a bootleg Hollander, which some people might enjoy. Once DHS are in, I suspect you could also do dual AC2 for harassment/cockpit rocking and still keep one or two MLs.
 

Stuka87

Diamond Member
Dec 10, 2010
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The Raven currently has no advantages over the Jenner. The Jenner is faster and smaller and packs essentially the same punch (or more). Large mechs have to aim down at the Jenner, which they don't have to do as much on the Raven. The Raven is nice though because it has a slim profile so it's harder to hit from behind. The other issues is you can never put an XL in a Raven because their side hit boxes for it don't make a lot of sense and extend forward on the main body quite a bit. This mech won't be truly useful until they put in the ECM/BAP packages and all that, and even then it still might not be depending on how they implement them. Right now you can turn one into a bootleg Hollander, which some people might enjoy. Once DHS are in, I suspect you could also do dual AC2 for harassment/cockpit rocking and still keep one or two MLs.


I have been really wishing the ECM and BAP was in place. Hopefully they make it worthwhile to run them by getting XP points for jamming a big mech that a team mate kills or something.
 

child of wonder

Diamond Member
Aug 31, 2006
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I cannot stand playing with all these random idiots. 4 matches in a row I get the only kills for my side and am left trying to single handedly fight off the remaining 5, 6, or 7 enemy Mechs.

TIRED OF IT!
 

HydroSqueegee

Golden Member
Oct 27, 2005
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I cannot stand playing with all these random idiots. 4 matches in a row I get the only kills for my side and am left trying to single handedly fight off the remaining 5, 6, or 7 enemy Mechs.

TIRED OF IT!

join us over at penny arcade. Oosik Irregulars/101th AssJammers.
its always a good time. enough of us we have 3 different vent channels.
 
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