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No, don't bother. SRMs with Artemis are king.
Last night I played with a group in my Atlas AS7-D-DC and had a 1,254 damage, 7 kill match followed by a 1,607 damage 6 kill match that would have been 7 kills if not for a Jenner teammate shooting me in the back. That fucker broke my 40 kill streak in that Atlas.
the CAT-C1 and C4 make great missile boats. i think teams that run assaults as missile boats lose effectiveness. Unless of course 3/4 the team are boats and the map is caustic.
personally, I just pub so group planing does not come into it.
secondly, the launch delay on the cat for missiles is just annoying, even if they seem to get a better firing arc.
lastly, anything less than 30+ missiles in a lauch cycle and I just drop the LRM's for something else. If I go LRM boat, 60LRM's is my perfered number. I would like 80 but the mech runs out of tonnage/space/heat.
Yeah they nerfed LRM's to the point that they are completly useless.
I just played a game yesterday with my founders cat, 2 LRM20 with 16xx missles and artemis and TAG.
The enemy team ignored me till they killed everyone else then ganged up on me, i thought i was doing alright and was just hiding well and i wasnt missing many salvo's and i landed at least 1400 of my 1600 missles and ran dry on ammo then died.
Then i saw the end game screen and that i only did 367 damage and i turned my cat into a SRM and laserboat.
Why would anyone in there right mind pay 125,000 a match for ammo(what my founders cat was when using LRM's) when you are going to do less than 400 damage and be pretty much useless for your team?
If they want people to use LRM's in this state they need to drop the ammo prices by at least 80%.
No, don't bother. SRMs with Artemis are king.
Last night I played with a group in my Atlas AS7-D-DC and had a 1,254 damage, 7 kill match followed by a 1,607 damage 6 kill match that would have been 7 kills if not for a Jenner teammate shooting me in the back. That fucker broke my 40 kill streak in that Atlas.
I agree, Artemis ammo costs are WAY too high. I do notice people launching volley after volley of LRMs, thinking they are pounding the enemy, only to have their LRMs hit buildings, bridges or hills and they just dont notice. Im guilty of it too. Unless you're in an optimal spot, you cant just park and launch 1000 LRMs off into the distance and expect to do well. You have to have the right angle to the enemy.
When i do well with my C4, im constantly moving to get a better shot at the enemy. Im not doing 1400 damage matches any more (before the nerf) but i can still do upwards of 800-1000 if im playing smart.
I think people just expect anything they can target to be able to be hittable, which just isnt the case.
There are some prime spots in both river city and forrest that you can effectivly LRM mob people from. In the match i described above i was on the communications tower hill on forrest launching at 2 heavys and a assault that was crossing the wide open lake side. I wasnt missing or hitting cover as there was none near the mechs i was shooting at, LRM's are just useless now.
So he goes and kills team members then? Being that there is only 8 mechs per team....
AMS is a bitch.
were their paper dolls lighting up with damage? thats the only way i can tell im hitting a target most times.
I thought about it long and hard in closed beta. If third person view comes in and it's like we expect (world of tanks, zoom out, look what's round the corner) then I will leave MWO until such a feature has been removed. So far I am loving the game, despite it's flaws, but that would completely crush that and make it MechAssault Online.
I wish there was some kinda feedback after you fired your weapons indicating how much damage you inflicted to your target.
big patch today!... unless it gets delayed. But the Cataphract will be going in today. Expect to see a whole lot of quad AC2 and AC5 boats.
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Open Beta Update #3
Upcoming Patch - Tuesday Nov. 20th @ 10AM – 1PM PDT
Change Log
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Update
Greetings MechWarriors, Welcome to Open Beta Update 3! This patch includes the Cataphact CTf-1X, 2X, 3D, and 4X (see details Bellow). This is a welcome addition to our Heavy Mech line-up bringing more variety to our battlefield. We have also expanded on our Information warfare pillar with the addition of Beagle active probe and 2 new Modules.
New BattleMechs:
Cataphract CTF-1X
* Tonnage: 70
* Top Speed: 64.8 kph
* Armor: 352 points
* Weapons: 4 Medium Lasers, 1 PPC, 1 AC/10
* Hardpoints: 5 Energy, 1 Ballistic, 1 AMS
* Jump Jets: 4
Cataphract CTF-2X
* Tonnage: 70
* Top Speed: 64.8 kph
* Armor: 416 points
* Weapons: 2 Medium Lasers, 1 SRM 4, 1 Large Laser, 1 AC/10
* Hardpoints: 3 Energy, 1 Ballistic, 2 Missile, 1 AMS
* Jump Jets: n/a
Cataphract CTF-3D
* Tonnage: 70
* Top Speed: 64.8 kph
* Armor: 352 points
* Weapons: 4 Medium Lasers, 1 LB 10-X AC, 1 Ultra AC/5
* Hardpoints: 4 Energy, 2 Ballistic, 1 AMS
* Jump Jets: n/a
Cataphract CTF-4X
* Tonnage: 70
* Top Speed: 48.6 kph
* Armor: 434 points
* Weapons: 1 Large Laser, 2 AC/5s, 1 LRM 5
* Hardpoints: 2 Energy, 4 Ballistic, 1 Missile, 1 AMS
* Jump Jets: n/a
GENERAL
* Beagle Active Probe (increases sensor range by 25%, faster target level acquisition by 25%, allows targeting of unpowered mechs within 120m)
* Back Face Target Retention Module (Allows to see your primary target on radar if they get behind you and are within 200m)
* Sensor Range Booster Pilot Module (Increases sensor range by 15%)
* Players can only exchange XP to GXP after the given Mech has had all BASIC efficiencies unlocked. (Does NOT require elite, just basics for the Mech that has XP on it.)
* Players in a group can now ready up by clicking their status in the group list instead of the master Launch button.
* Proper notification given when the player group is full.
* Tweaked the display of AMS in weapon loadout. (Displays the # of active AMS modules which are displayed at the bottom of your weapon configuration list.)
* Extra information on the BattleGrid is now OFF by default. Press I to turn them back on.
* BattleGrid base markers in spectator mode now displays correctly.
* Jump Jets can no longer be activated when knocked down.
* Coordinates now displayed with F9.
* Weapon Lock system made system authoritative to prevent cheaters from gaining faster locks
* SSRMs were doing less damage than designed, that is now fixed.
* SSRMs will now hit 100% unless something in the way or latency issues.
* A rare crash when loading into level has been addressed.
GAMEPLAY
* Fixed Lock-on reticule not showing up for spectators.
* Cooldown bar stuttering fixed.
* Users can no longer change weapon groups while shut down.
* There is now a warning on the HUD when weapons are jammed.
* Weapons will un-jam automatically after ~3-5 seconds.
* Manual unjamming of weapons is no longer required.
ENVIRONMENTS
* Re-created all level.pak files to substantially reduce filesize
* Tweak ambient temperature of Forest Colony Snow (it is now slightly colder than Forest Colony regular (~-2°c))
* Updated Mini-map image in Forest Colony (standard)
* Performance Optimizations in Forest Colony (standard)